Topic: When noble verdicts are not enough.........

Mabrouk to the nobel panel of judges!



The former Malaysian prime minister was the presiding judge in a mock trial of Bush, Blair and Sharon.
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Last week, the mock trial of United States President George W Bush, British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his ailing Israeli counterpart Ariel Sharon took place in a basement hall of Cairo's dilapidated Lawyers' Union headquarters building. Presiding over the tribunal was the former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamed.

The evidence provided by the court enraged the spectators. Films were shown and testimonies delivered. The entire hall was emotionally charged. The charismatic Malaysian leader held the make-believe court spell-bound. "The court found the accused persons guilty of gross human rights violations."

The panel of judges agreed that the leaders of the US, Britain and Israel were guilty of crimes committed against humanity and were pronounced guilty of bombing private houses, public buildings, hospitals and schools. They were also found guilty of obstructing supplies of food and medicine, destroying water and electricity supplies in Iraq, Palestine and elsewhere. They were found guilty of the arrest, detention and torture of innocent civilians.

The judges said the leaders ought to be dumped into the "Hall of Infamy" for all eternity.

Mahathir Mohamed's winning personality charmed his listeners and he did not mince his words. "They are accused of refusing to give legal redress to civilians," he explained. "These are crimes against peace and humanity. They must be brought to book."

However, Mahathir conceded that the mock trial had no authority to enforce the verdict. "This court has no power to make you face prosecution and have you succumb to the prescribed sentence," he said.

"However, at least the mock trial provides a forum by which the international community would know how much suffering the occupation and armed aggression of the occupiers inflicted on the civilian populations," Mahathir told Al-Ahram Weekly at the close of the trial. "At least this is an opportunity for people in this part of the world to vent their frustration and air their grievances," he added.

"People the world over are angry at the double standards of the US and are determined to express their outrage at the manner in which the civilian population of Iraq, Palestine and Afghanistan were treated," Mahathir said.

He agreed with most participants at the mock trial that the crimes committed against humanity by the three leaders must not be forgotten or belittled.

Sameh Ashour, the head of the Arab Lawyers Union, concurred. He said that the entire Arab and the Muslim worlds were incensed by the brutal way in which Palestinians, Iraqis and Afghans were treated under occupation. "The gross violations of the civilian population in these occupied countries are despicable," he said.

British MP George Galloway for his constituency Bethnal Green was invited to give evidence at the mock trial. Galloway was detained at Cairo International Airport on the grounds that he constituted a threat to "Egyptian national security," the British MP explained upon his release from a cell he was kept in overnight.

Galloway was at first left bereft of food and drink at the VIP lounge of Cairo Airport and then whisked away to a detention centre where he shared a cramped space with some 35 mostly black African deportees. After a phone call his credit ran out, but not before the British Embassy in Cairo was notified and Galloway was visited by some of the organisers of the mock trial and by MP Mustafa El-Fiqi, head of the foreign relations committee of the People's Assembly.

After the intervention of the British Embassy in Cairo and top-level Egyptian officials, Galloway was promptly released, but it was too late for him to take part in the mock tribunal. The British MP maintains that he received a phone call from President Hosni Mubarak who "apologised on behalf of the Egyptian people". According to Galloway, President Mubarak told him that he was a "widely respected freedom fighter and friend of the Arabs."

Galloway, who is also the leader of the leftist Respect Party, said that "[Mubarak's phone call] was a most gracious apology which I accepted whole- heartedly."

He said he would be visiting Egypt in the future and that once one drinks from the waters of the River Nile, one is always bound to return to "this beautiful country.

"I consider the matter now closed."

ON the bank at the end
Of what was there before us...
Veiled in the mist of naïve speculation
We are busy here preparing
Rafts to carry us across
Before the light goes out leaving us
In the eternal night of could-have-been
N. Bostrum

2 (edited by Lakme 2006-02-11 19:46:15)

Re: When noble verdicts are not enough.........

Bush, Blair, and Sharon are only mid level (if even that) players in the game.  Just puppets having their strings pulled.  So what does this accomplish positively in the long run?  Absolutely nothing.  If anything, it just helps to "demonize" the nations they "lead" in the eyes of the rest of the world, making it easier for TPTB to impose their one world government, which is their ultimate goal.

These political leaders are just the paid (and sometimes, if not always) mind-controlled shills of the elites and their 'off-world' masters.  You know this, right?

Re: When noble verdicts are not enough.........

You're of course correct, Lakme, but the vast majority of people don't seem able to grasp such a rather simple concept. Nonetheless, these puppets were willing to submit their wills to the machine, which makes them no less culpable in my humble opinion.

By the way, are you an opera fan by any chance? Ou va la jeune Indoue ring a bell?

"A dream has power to poison sleep"
-Percy Bysshe Shelley

4 (edited by Lakme 2006-02-11 19:03:19)

Re: When noble verdicts are not enough.........

Ahurani wrote:

Nonetheless, these puppets were willing to submit their wills to the machine, which makes them no less culpable in my humble opinion.?

I totally agree.  But they are mere puppets nonetheless.  And these staged events, where only the puppets are attacked and not their masters, follows the script, so to speak, and is according to plan.


Ahurani wrote:

By the way, are you an opera fan by any chance? Ou va la jeune Indoue ring a bell?

No...although my screen name, from the opera of the same name by Delibes, is a result of my head over heels fondness for the "Flower Duet" song fom it.

5 (edited by Ahurani 2006-02-11 19:19:08)

Re: When noble verdicts are not enough.........

I don't know, I'd say that attacking the puppet is better than being complacent and attacking nothing.

"Ou va la jeune Indoue" is Lakme's greatest aria from the opera. You should listen to it sometime if you've never heard it.

"A dream has power to poison sleep"
-Percy Bysshe Shelley

Re: When noble verdicts are not enough.........

Dear lakeme
you say, quote,  'Just puppets having their strings pulled.  So what does this accomplish positively in the long run?  Absolutely nothing.'
I think you are missing the point, did you bother to read the topic headline? 'When noble verdicts are not enough.........' however the point i think that is important is the point that there are some people, in some of the most unlikely places in the world,  actually DOING something, not just talking, i think there is something quite special about Doing something, this means that these people have progressed beyond the thinking, talking, operatic stage (no pun intended) ............ a kind of causal reaction can take place this way. I hold  these men's actions to be noble, if on the other hand,  you do have a  better, more grander  idea, at this point in time, prayers, meditations, ohms aside, please let us know...........we're all waiting to hear.

ON the bank at the end
Of what was there before us...
Veiled in the mist of naïve speculation
We are busy here preparing
Rafts to carry us across
Before the light goes out leaving us
In the eternal night of could-have-been
N. Bostrum

7 (edited by Lakme 2006-02-11 21:43:44)

Re: When noble verdicts are not enough.........

whitewater wrote:

I think you are missing the point, did you bother to read the topic headline? "When noble verdicts are not enough..."

You think wrong.  I'm not missing the point...not at all.  I don't believe your initial post under this topic contained or was about any kind of "noble verdict," on anything.  It's nonsense, actually.

Some elite controlled third world political hack lashing out against first world elite controlled political hacks, under the guise of great injustice being committed...bla bla bla...

Tweedle dee politician yelling about tweedle dum(b)(s) politician...all sides following the same script perfectly...

whitewater wrote:

that there are some people, in some of the most unlikely places in the world, actually DOING something, not just talking, i think there is something quite special about Doing something, this means that these people have progressed beyond the thinking, talking, operatic stage (no pun intended)

There are some people, many people I'm guessing, that are seeing through the 3D illusion and taking action, doing something, that helps them "pierce the veil," of this existence.  They have progressed way beyond the whole 3D way of thinking and the nonsense represented by the phony "this political leader said, that political leader said" type of mentality that is presented here.  I'm not saying that this former Malaysian leader doesn't make valid points...not at all.  But when you attack the puppet, and not the puppet master(s) you're usually following the script given to you by the same masters.

whitewater wrote:

I hold  these men's actions to be noble.

I don't.

whitewater wrote:

on the other hand,  if you do have a  better, more grander idea, at this point in time, prayers, meditations, ohms aside, please let us know...........we're all waiting to hear.

I never said I did. wink  All I care to do is think for myself on these matters, and I don't profess, nor do I wish to proffer any great ideas to you or anybody else on what is a better, grander idea, as you put it, when it comes to these subjects.  I will never diminish the power of prayer and/or meditation in helping one to see the truth though...never.

8 (edited by freeme 2006-02-12 10:02:04)

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Just because this game is being played at higher levels, does not mean that there aren't moves possible at the physical levels.

This particular event seems like it could have mixed results.  On the one hand, it could be used to justify war against the US, especially in Arab countries.  On the other hand, it could be used to raise awareness in the US and the West of the real suffering that is happening.  That could embolden groups here to impeach Bush utilizing the legal system.  It wouldn't end the reign of the puppet masters obviously, but it could throw a little wrench in their plans.

edit: In time this can help reveal the puppet masters, because they start to get progressively more sloppy.  It's the same as dealing with a psychopath.   Fend them off until more people can see through their mask.  For now, we have to deal with the fact that most people are not yet prepared to see the higher level manipulators.

What might help is 1) to pass this information around and 2) to request help from the higher levels to ensure that this trial raises awareness, thus utilizing multiple levels of reality.

Never Give Up!

9 (edited by whywhywhy 2006-02-12 11:32:15)

Re: When noble verdicts are not enough.........

I am sure the trial was very fair.  Right! Perhaps the Moslem world should conduct a mock up trial on moslems that oppressed, chained, killed and tortured their own people.  That would be fair...............

Can't you see that is all political.  Most of the people conducting the trial are not interested in the well being of their own.  They are doing it to gain leverage in the world political arena.  That is the name of the game.  They too are part of the NWO political apparatus. 

It all has come a full circle.  What you see or hear about on TV is not what it actually is.  And then, what is "is"?

Regards,

Lee

Re: When noble verdicts are not enough.........

whywhywhy wrote:

I am sure the trial was very fair.  Right! Perhaps the Moslem world should conduct a mock up trial on moslems that oppressed, chained, killed and tortured their own people.  That would be fair...............

OK ..........I hear what your saying, but I think this way of thinking will only go to make  the problem bigger.....

Can't you see that is all political.  Most of the people conducting the trial are not interested in the well being of their own.  They are doing it to gain leverage in the world political arena.

You might be right again, but its still Leverage, and that's the important thing, how we use it, in your words, 

That is the name of the game.

ON the bank at the end
Of what was there before us...
Veiled in the mist of naïve speculation
We are busy here preparing
Rafts to carry us across
Before the light goes out leaving us
In the eternal night of could-have-been
N. Bostrum