271 (edited by morningsun76 2006-01-30 04:15:03)

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Sigh.

I just finished "Grizzly Man."   

I remember reading about the subject of the film, Timothy Treadwell, a year or two ago right after he died.   What I had recalled reading was that this was some guy who went out to live among wild bears in Alaska for long periods of time, and eventually ended up getting eaten by one ... to no one's surprise.   

What we get in this documentary is some rather extreme videotaped confirmation that this fellow was in fact severly disturbed and suffering from sundry emotional and psychological issues.    The bad part is that the documentary focuses almost exclusively on these problems, to the exclusion of what could be more interesting material.  Far too much time is spent on interviews with friends and relatives, whose commentary always seemed to boil down to "yes, he was out of his mind."   

We also see lots of video he took of himself:  talking to the camera, and often doing multiple takes for what he must have envisioned as being a future movie.    But what is glaringly absent from this film is any substantial amount of the actual wildlife footage itself, of which he apparently took hundreds of hours of footage during the course of five years.  That seems like a bit of a waste to me -- because from the clips that are shown, it's obvious that he captured some extraordinarily unique and breathtaking footage.  I was really hoping to see more of it, but was only to be disappointed.  Unfortunately, we get to see comparatively little of his amazing footage, and mostly are stuck learning about Tim's mental state and motivations.   

Questions that come to mind after watching this film: where do we draw the line between that inner need for transcendental experience, and our need for a stable reality?    Jim Morrison comes to mind as a similar case; one who pushed the boundaries of ordinary reality so far that they broke.  He openly was seeking death, as songs like "The End" make clear.  Timothy Treadwell, too, held a tremendous amount of pain within him that he was seeking to escape.     James Arthur, the mushroom shaman, talked about how the Amanita experience was one of "death and rebirth."  The common denominator always seems to be that death is the sole condition on which humans become able to commune with the Divine.     

For me, I think I'll give March of the Penguins a watch next.  I'm not a big fan of wildlife documentaries, but after "Grizzly" I'm hoping to see some good footage that's free of psychotic humans. hmm

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"Clouds: Letters to My Son" (2001) aka "Nuages: Lettres    mon fils" - Belgium (French title)
is free of psychotic humans, i.m.o.

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AB wrote:

"Clouds: Letters to My Son" (2001) aka "Nuages: Lettres �  mon fils" - Belgium (French title)
is free of psychotic humans, i.m.o.

Hi AB, can you tell us any more about it; why you recommend it?

Auendove wrote:

As well, if you like watching movies about nature and wildlife, March of the Penguins was stunningly beautiful and educational. It is an amazing piece of film. I suggest anyone watch this, if even just to take a break from all of the sensationalistic movies available in the mainstream. wink And it can watched with children, if you do have children in the home.

I just got done watching this, and March of the Penguins is easily the best penguin-related feature-length documentary film that I have ever seen.

smile

It actually is a quite excellent nature documentary, and well-worth seeing if your attention span hasn't been totally wiped out by modern television.    The footage is all very beautiful to look at, and I honestly wonder how they got some of this footage ... it could not have been easy!  Plus there are a few real gems scattered througout the film, including an antarctic winter storm and some great underwater footage.  The whole thing clocks in at 80 minutes, which is about the right amount of time for a movie of this type -- it's enough to really give the viewer a good understanding of the creatures without drawing things out unnecessarily.

Anyone interested can check out trailer for it at the official website.    If you'd like to see the whole movie, a few different torrent downloads are currently available.


Thanks for the recommendation, Auendove.

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I have to gush about a movie that I'm afraid some of you might dismiss because of mixed reviews -- Terrence Malick's THE NEW WORLD. This movie positively floored me!

It's interesting to note there are three kinds of reviews of The New World: those that consider it one of the best movies ever made... those that can't quite grasp it but are inexplicabley drawn to its power... and those that VICIOUSLY attack it as if it were a personal insult. These three reactions are very telling, eh? Confirms there's major league power coming through this film.

If you go see it (and I recommend seeing it on the big screen), check your preconceived notions about a "historical epic" at the door and just let the film take you. It's a genre-defying movie without one ounce of hollywoodization.

FYI: for those of you who aren't familiar with Terrence Malick, he's this sort of hermity, recluse of a director. Total anti-hollywood. Don't even think he lives in the US. He never does interviews, and only makes one film every 10 to 20 yrs (Badlands, Days of Heaven, Thin Red Line.) However, it's rumored he's currently filming yet another movie in India called The Tree of Life. I can't help but wonder if he's being *called* to make these movies at this particular juncture in time. Even the name of his last film - The New World - has a timely ring even if it refers to the OLD new world.

*P.S. this movie thread starts out with a post about the Dark Crystal. I just read they’re making a Dark Crystal Part 2 out 2007. Also very timely!

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morningsun76,

lol  So happy to see that my first recommendation of Grizzly Man was redeemed by my second recommendation of March of the Penguins.

Spirited Away was a very interesting film/anime, morningsun. There's lots of symbolism therein...like, at almost every turn. It struck me as acutely comprehensive. There appeared to be a number of influences having been employed in the making of the film, not just "Alice...". I also found "...Oz" references, too.

It was timely for me to view this film, so thanks to you, too! I normally wouldn't watch an anime film, but I'm happy I followed your lead on this one.

smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Auendove wrote:

lol  So happy to see that my first recommendation of Grizzly Man was redeemed by my second recommendation of March of the Penguins.

Spirited Away was a very interesting film/anime, morningsun. There's lots of symbolism therein...like, at almost every turn. It struck me as acutely comprehensive. There appeared to be a number of influences having been employed in the making of the film, not just "Alice...". I also found "...Oz" references, too.

smile  Sorry if my negative reaction to Grizzly came across in any way as unappreciative --  I'm actually glad to have seen it, but for some reason this movie really just brought me down spiritually ... seeing people so totally far gone from reality can do that to me.   

As far as Spirited goes, it's hard to qualify what exactly I found so interesting about it.  It's obviously not a clear-cut, obvious symbolism that's being employed in this movie a la The Matrix, The Truman Show, etc.   My feeling though was that it was actually depicting spirit-world entities very realistically ... very close to how they actually would appear and behave.  I thought that those little black bug things in the boiler room were interesting, and also the fact that most of the spirits view humans either with contempt or as a target of some sort.  Very few, such as the dragon boy, actually have compassion for humans and try to help them.

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I saw the film documentary "Why We Fight" - I recommend it.  It is in some theaters now.  Well done.  A look at the US as an empire from 1945 to today.

Good research.  Peace focused but more balanced than some other documentaries out there.

Puts attention on Eisenhower's phrase the "military-industrial complex".

Mentions that the way our society and media manipulation is set up is like a totalitarian society.

Here is the web site:
http://www.sonyclassics.com/whywefight/

Here is a selection from Eisenhower's 1961 speech:

"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

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I liked Syriana a lot. I'm surprised the neo-cons didn't block its release.

As far as powerful imagery and achieving deeper levels of meaning go, two films come to mind:

Nosferatu (the 70s version with Kinski)
The Hours

"A dream has power to poison sleep"
-Percy Bysshe Shelley

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There seems to be some intresting movies coming out soon, so I'd like to share links to some of them.

Here's a trailer for X-Men 3, it looks pretty intresting and the voice over sounds pretty symbolic.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/tls/trailer/

A Scanner Darkly, directed by Richard Linklater (Waking Likfe, Dazed and Confused) is based on a Philip K. Dick novel, seems to me the movie may have some references to the Truth.
http://wip.warnerbros.com/index.html?si … nnerdarkly (trailer top right)

V for Vendetta directed by the bros that made the Matrix.  Looks good.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/v_for_ … a/trailer/

The Da Vinci Code - Now this movie is either going to hide the Truth even more or it may be pretty acurate... who knows?
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pict … inci_code/

The lines that I found symbolic...
"We are in the middle of a war, one that has been going on forever... to protect a secret so powerful that if revealed.. it would devastate the very foundation of mandkind"
and
"Witness the biggest cover-up in human history"

I haven't really read this book, and from what I've heard it meantions the Illuminati, but not from the view point discussed on these forums.

This trailer has been reference before in this thread - Apocalypto.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/touchstone/apocalypto/

And lastly, if there are any fans of the movies Requiem for a Dream and Pi this is Darren's Aronofsky's latest called the fountain.  Only a teaser trailer though.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/thefountain/

It would be nice to have quick time to watch all of these, although there are many other ways.  smile

I find there's an intresting amount of movies coming out with a little hint of "magic" as I like to say.  But then, there are an increasingly amount of movies that are plain and lifeless.  Hopefully some of these movies can engage the viewer into the questioning of "Is there more to life than this?"

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun

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Natural Mystic wrote:

It would be nice to have quick time to watch all of these, although there are many other ways.  smile

One other way - for those that don't want to download the bloated Quicktime just use Quicktime Alternative instead... http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Qui … native.htm



Also - those are some interesting films that will certainly be worth watching.  I will be interested to see the sort of reaction V for Vendeta gets here in the UK - seeing as the movie is set here...

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Auendove wrote:

Spirited Away was a very interesting film/anime, morningsun. There's lots of symbolism therein...like, at almost every turn. It struck me as acutely comprehensive.

Howl's Moving Castle which is another movie by Hayao Miyazaki who directed spirited away is also very good. I havn't watched it till the end but essentialy Howl is a magicion who lives in a castle on legs. The castle has a special door that can be opened in four different location such as the castles real world position and the town where they do their shopping. It seems to have a theme of inner beauty as the female protagonist is turned into an old hag near the start. I really want to watch the rest but currently it is only on my laptop (10" screen) and its a bit of a waste with the great anitmation and subtitles.

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I Osokin wrote:

The Matrix; a diluted Hollywood version of the graphic novel series 'The Invisibles', with the Gnostic references removed, something the creator Grant Morrison has remarked upon.

Yes.  Yes.  The Invisibles series is a bit pricey, but I think worth it.  It is now sold as a graphic novel series in 7 parts.  Each book is priced around $19.95.

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Let's not forget Undercover Brother fightin' Da Man !


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0279493/

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Has anyone seen or heard of (drum roll ...) The Secret ?

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If people know, then it is not a secret any more lol

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