1 Topic by Barefoot Doc (edited by Barefoot Doc 2006-01-28 07:40:52)

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Topic: Garlic may well be a toxin

Dr Robert Beck  first warned about the dangers of Garlic and how it kills brain cells and  de-synchronises the left and right brains waves.
Research abounds about how garlic strengthens the immune system. Dr. Bob Beck, however, found in his research back in the 1980's that garlic has a detrimental effect on the brain health practitioners and  many yoga groups and philosophical teachings caution against the use of garlic as it is known to hinder meditation.
Apparantly pilots are told not eat Garlic 72 hours before flying as it slows down reaction times.

I cant stand the stuff, even a sniff leaves me gagging and there is no way i could eat it,  Garlic has medicinal uses but its not a food, strangley i cant stomach mustard either and that smell leaves me gagging which is another toxic herb if taken to excess.
There are other herbs which stregthen the immune system and are effective antivirals, antibacterials etc without these side effects, oregano oil, olive leaves, echinacea, ginger, pau d,arco,  etc.

http://www.relfe.com/health_benefits_of_garlic.html

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A choice to test this out for yourself, to consciously remove it from your daily intake, somehow it has found it's way into most processed consumer products. Remember garlic is an antibiotic which kills bad and good friendly bacteria within your body only problem is it seems to not know the difference of what is good or what is negative in your body. Any naturopath will agree with this.
(I made the choice to remove it 16 years ago and have never looked back, see the results in your own life. You will find that your taste buds will come alive and will no longer be masked (50% of human digestion takes place from chewing your food, to create digestive enzymes within your saliva. Your digestive system will run more efficiently, your mind will be calm and you'll no longer be controlled by out of control emotions). Cheers to a happy and healthier life for all! ........ Dez Dalton

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Vets are aware of how toxic Garlic is to cats and dogs.

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THANKS DOC
have done garlic in the past heard it was a good wormer.
have been eating garlic bread and noticed that ever time it made me sleepy.
Am off garlic as of NOW.

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Wow.  Thanks Doc.  I'll give this a try. 


I love the quote you use to end your posts.  Who is Michael Ellner?
He sure hit it on the head with that one.

5 Reply by Barefoot Doc (edited by Barefoot Doc 2006-01-29 01:59:39)

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Mriver wrote:

THANKS DOC
have done garlic in the past heard it was a good wormer.
have been eating garlic bread and noticed that ever time it made me sleepy.
Am off garlic as of NOW.

Maybe that explains the siesta in mediterranean countries where they put Garlic in eveything smile
It is a good wormer along with cloves and wormwood and if its taken for a specific health problem as medicine as a one off that should be fine. People who take Garlic as a heart and blood tonic long term though should switch to safer herbs such as cayenne pepper, ginger and hawthorn, in fact they are far better herbs for this anyway.
The the most powerfull  natural antibiotic and  antiviral is Oregano essential oil which can be taken internally, it has a good record against Flu and infections.



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I love the quote you use to end your posts.  Who is Michael Ellner?
He sure hit it on the head with that one.

Rev Dr Michael Ellner is president of Heal a non profit health organisation , he exposes the myth of HIV and the deadly HIV drugs amongst other things.

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6 Reply by transcend (edited by transcend 2006-01-29 10:51:32)

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Just a note on the use of oregano essential oil - it is indeed very powerful so do proceed with caution.

The main chemical constituents of Origanum vulgare are carvacrol and thymol - both of which are phenols which are indeed very very powerful but also very harsh.

Therefore only to be used in short bursts when you need a bit of a healing big bang, but not advisable to take on a daily basis over an extended period of time. Also not advisable to give to babies / children except in extreme cases of infection.

It is very stimulating for the immune system and highly antioxidant as Barefoot Doc says.

Definitely a very good herb to eat on a daily basis along with thyme, rosemary, savoury etc.

Another great immune booster / bug fighter is tea tree essential oil. Take absolute maximum of 4 x 2 drops a day as soon as you feel a cold coming on. Odds are on you don't get the cold.

7 Reply by plasticportal (edited by plasticportal 2006-01-30 07:49:18)

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I've experienced many positive effects from ingesting raw garlic on occasion.  I don't eat it a lot, but when I do, I often feel more energetic and alert (quite the opposite from what you're saying).  It's quite a stimulant to me.

Many times I've felt my body fighting something only to eat garlic and feel an energetic boost.  No other herb/extract/pill comes even close to acheiving the same effect.

Garlic, like cilantro is also a natural chelation from what I understand.  For those of us who live in areas that are exposed to heavy metals (chemtrails, factories), these herbs might be a good way of purging the system of these metals.

I've never read anything regarding the effects of garlic on the brain.  I will say that it does tend to increase libedo at times.

I haven't noticed any negative effects in my meditations or dreams after ingesting raw garlic.  If it's doing something to my brain, I haven't become consciously aware of it.  I will have to try some experiements the next couple weeks to see if there are any negative or positive effects.

Garlic is a powerful herb regardless.  I wouldn't recommend using it on a daily basis.  Maybe once or twice a week if at all.  Garlic powder has little or no effect on me.  Perhaps I just haven't ingested it in quantities that would have any noticable effect.  It really doesn't do anything for me unless it's in it raw form.  Therefore using it as a seasoning is really quite harmless IMO.  High heat seems to destroy most if not all the medicinal properties of garlic, not to mention most recipies call for fairly low quantities.

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Sounds like the thing to do is limit "recreational garlic use" wink  and use it only in emergencies.  I do recall hearing that it inhibits meditation, though I wasn't sure if that was disinfo or not. 

Wasn't garlic and onions also fed extensively to the slaves in Egypt?  If what you are saying is true, that would make garlic an excellent "slave tonic".  Keeps the body healthy and the mind a bit dull.

Thinking about the use of garlic in the mainstream, it is being touted as more of a tonic for your heart and blood, urging people to consume a little every day.  However, it is not much touted for its antibacterial and antiviral and antifungal properties, which in my opinion are it's most important properties.  It worked better than any other treatment I tried for my kids ear infections.   Doctors wouldn't believe me when I told them.

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9 Reply by Barefoot Doc (edited by Barefoot Doc 2006-01-30 11:53:58)

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transcend wrote:

Just a note on the use of oregano essential oil - it is indeed very powerful so do proceed with caution.

The main chemical constituents of Origanum vulgare are carvacrol and thymol - both of which are phenols which are indeed very very powerful but also very harsh.

Therefore only to be used in short bursts when you need a bit of a healing big bang, but not advisable to take on a daily basis over an extended period of time. Also not advisable to give to babies / children except in extreme cases of infection.

It is very stimulating for the immune system and highly antioxidant as Barefoot Doc says.

Definitely a very good herb to eat on a daily basis along with thyme, rosemary, savoury etc.

Another great immune booster / bug fighter is tea tree essential oil. Take absolute maximum of 4 x 2 drops a day as soon as you feel a cold coming on. Odds are on you don't get the cold.

Thanks for adding those warnings in, of course these powerfull natural antibiotics such as oregano oil and tea tree for internal use must only be used when one needs them just like the pharmy antibitics.
I would not hesitate to use Garlic as wormer or an antibiotic if i needed to.

Plasticportal wrote:

Garlic, like cilantro is also a natural chelation from what I understand.  For those of us who live in areas that are exposed to heavy metals (chemtrails, factories), these herbs might be a good way of purging the system of these metals.

This is true but as too much Garlic on a daily basis may well kill of beneficial bacteria too this is something to think about. Cilantro is good but it may pay to limit garlic and research other heavy metal chelators such as magnetic clay and the green algaes and seaweed.

Freeme wrote:

Thinking about the use of garlic in the mainstream, it is being touted as more of a tonic for your heart and blood, urging people to consume a little every day.  However, it is not much touted for its antibacterial and antiviral and antifungal properties, which in my opinion are it's most important properties.  It worked better than any other treatment I tried for my kids ear infections.   Doctors wouldn't believe me when I told them.

Alongside oregano oil Garlic is a very powerfull natural antibiotic and as i say i would use it as medicine but there are better/safer heart,  blood and circulation tonics, look into cayenne pepper and Hawthorn.

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I have always found that the main person setting me back and "restricting" me on my journeys has been my own mother. Recently she has been insisting that I eat garlic to strengthen my immune system and a few other medical reasons she has supposedly researched. It has gotten pretty ridiculous and I am wondering whether this is happening to set my progress back as you claim that it is detrimental to the brain.

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I am convinced garlic is bad for mental function. I was feeling fine earlier today- then had some garlic bread on a whim, after removing it for a few weeks.  Got this mild disconnected hazy headache, much like I get from MSG, I am very sensitive to MSG.  So then I wonder, is garlic often used in combination with MSG, under the guise of 'natural flavor' and 'spice'?  For me to actively avoid one
and ignore the other seems a bit halfassed.... now I know.         J

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I am convinced garlic is bad for mental function. I was feeling fine earlier today- then had some garlic bread on a whim, after removing it for a few weeks.  Got this mild disconnected hazy headache, much like I get from MSG, I am very sensitive to MSG.  So then I wonder, is garlic often used in combination with MSG, under the guise of 'natural flavor' and 'spice'?  For me to actively avoid one
and ignore the other seems a bit halfassed.... now I know.         J

Hi ape-x....are you sure you can't rule out the bread and the carbs?  Was it homemade garlic bread, or a store bought brand that might have chemicals in it?

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It was actually mozzarella cheese bread lyra, from a local takeout place. I can rule out the carbs, I'm about 95% sure I can rule out the cheese, I try to limit all dairy stuff as I am slightly lactose intolerant, but mozza has never given me trouble.

I have noticed the effect on other
occasions, but this time I paid close attention, sure enough, I'm all duuuuuuuh and feeling like I wanted to take something for a headache, but it wasn't really a headache, more like a brain-ache. As Doc said in his initial post, it has been found to get the left/right brainwaves out of sync and that is precisely what it felt like. It's about 4-5 hours later now, and I am feeling mostly back to normal, and I didn't take anything.

So yes, I can say with some assurance it was the garlic, I never inquired what they use- I assume it's just garlic powder, but it is quite possible that MSG is present in that. My basis for that belief is the fact they are now beginning to sneak in aspartame with corn syrup in some pre-mixed beverages, usually the cheap gallon jugs of fruit punch, the ones that contain 0% juice and get most of their flavor from the citric acid.  I bought some one nasty hot day earlier in the summer, and I did detect it before I read the label. I was like sonofa-b, now they're putting aspartame in stuff NOT labeled diet, or sugar free.

I really don't know what is safe, eating is not what is used to be. If I thought I could survive, I wouldn't eat at all.
It's that bad......                                    J

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ape-x wrote:

So yes, I can say with some assurance it was the garlic, I never inquired what they use- I assume it's just garlic powder, but it is quite possible that MSG is present in that.

Could very well be that.  Myself, I've never had issues with garlic.  I buy organic cloves of garlic, or natural garlic powder from Whole Foods, which doesn't have any MSG in there.  My body has actually had cravings for garlic, so to me that says that there must be good properties about it.  Also it's a good anti-viral/anti-bacterial agent.  Civil war troops supposedly used to mash it into their feet wounds to stop disease and gangrene.  (wearing cold wet socks and boots all day long would cause issues.)  But, that doesn't mean that it wouldn't also have other negative effects, many "good" foods and herbs and natural supplements have their pros and cons.   And maybe some people respond differently to it than others, we're all different after all.  In my spirulina thread Sedna Sphere mentioned having volatile reactions to spirulina, while for me it energizes me and makes me feel great.  Go figure!  But that's why people have their own individualized allergic reactions I guess.   We all have our personal chemical make ups. 



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My basis for that belief is the fact they are now beginning to sneak in aspartame with corn syrup in some pre-mixed beverages, usually the cheap gallon jugs of fruit punch, the ones that contain 0% juice and get most of their flavor from the citric acid.  I bought some one nasty hot day earlier in the summer, and I did detect it before I read the label. I was like sonofa-b, now they're putting aspartame in stuff NOT labeled diet, or sugar free.

Oh yes, a pet peeve of mine.  The way they're working aspartame into things now.  It's ludicrous.  Recently we were waiting in line at a checkstand and I started reading the chewing gum labels.  One of them had sugar, corn syrup, AND aspartame!!!  I was like, OKAY, am I MISSING something here???  Why in the frickity frack do you need aspartame when you already have sugar AND corn syrup in there?

You don't.  But it's literally a "conspiracy" to poison the population.  Slip their toxic chemicals into foods, use the foods and candies as their personal toxic waste dump avenue.


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I really don't know what is safe, eating is not what is used to be. If I thought I could survive, I wouldn't eat at all.  It's that bad......                                    J

Yeah, I agree.

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I miss being a kid, oblivious to all this nonsense going on with food. Everything was wholesome- kids either like it of hate it, but never will you hear them discussing how ramen noodles give them headaches.

Part of my problem is, I don't have any health food stores close by. And I wouldn't know what to do with most health food to make it edible. I'm inclined to think I would rather die young than eat most of it.

The issue seems to be that there is no middle ground anymore. The food you buy is either extremely bad for you, or better than any human can stand.

Does that make sense...

When food was food, neither incredibly good for you- or (processed) bad, we had none of these ailments, they were nearly unheard of. When I was young, antacid was about the only thing people used.

Now look at the market for drugs...

You can't counter symptoms from eating processed crap by re-toxifying your system with more chemicals that shouldn't be consumed. People just get fed the idea that this is the way things are and always were. Not so.

So in viewing it full spectrum, I keep trying to come back to  "center"  that is no longer there. It is maddening for me, definetely one of my major struggles.

I recently confirmed I cannot digest beef ( at least ground beef) without having some serious issues- I won't get into details, but beef is absolutely not 'what's for dinner'. That actually makes things easier, it's just plain off the menu.

The list keeps shrinking, soon it'll be applesauce all day every day lol.

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