Topic: Not In Our Name

Found this just now on David Icke's site.  It's a big petition.  The original was in 2002 and had over 66,ooo names on it.  It basically takes a stand against Bush's post 9/11 policies.  The new one appeared yesterday in the New York Times, and already has some 9000 signatures.  I think it is worth checking out.

"No election, whether fair or fraudulent, can legitimize criminal wars on foreign countries, torture, the wholesale violation of human rights, and the end of science and reason."

http://www.nion.us

Kathy

Never Give Up!

2 (edited by Lakme 2005-01-25 22:45:55)

Re: Not In Our Name

Kathy --

Let me start by saying, that I signed the original petition back in 2002. 

That being said, I must state, that while I firmly oppose the war in Iraq -- and all wars -- and I wholeheartedly agree with the above statement put out by NION, I NOW feel there MAY be a deliberate element of deception here on their part (more in what they don't say about this war/the NWO and ALL of its powerful backers...read Rothschild/London interests) and that this plays into the whole grand scheme by the international Luciferian/Illuminati elites to demonize the United States (not just the government, but the citizenry) in the eyes of the rest of the world, who are mostly clueless about the TPTB behind the scenes who are again orchestrating yet another world war, with the US being set up as the "bad/cop," and the UN or NATO set up as the "good/cop" which is necesary if  this country is to be brought down/destroyed and folded into this envisioned NWO scenario...phew!

I do not believe this ad would see the light of day EVER in the NEW YORK TIMES -- one of THEIR biggest and most powerful media mouthpieces -- if it did not serve their agenda in some way.  It just would not be allowed. 

I also see the likes of Howard Zinn, Daniel Ellsberg, Noam Chomsky, and others, on the list of signers, who have never publically challenged the official 9/11 story, and in some cases have acted as "gatekeepers" of the so-called "left" by actively criticizing and ostracizing those who have (rightfully) exposed this outrageous and easily seen through official explanation as "conspiracy nuts" and worse...the most pivotal (arguably) event that has propelled us on the track of "endless war" and set us on the road to a police state, and yet they are "mum" about -- or act to further -- the outrageous lies and deceit that make up the official story on 9/11.

I do appreciate your sentiments though -- as I share them also -- but I felt I had to add what I strongly intuit about this group for those interested.  My take. 

DJ

Re: Not In Our Name

I've thought about this some, DJ.  While you may be correct, there is also the possibility that TPTB simply think it is too late to stop everything.  Also, do you believe that Zinn and Chomsky are consciously acting as gatekeepers or are just unaware?  I suppose in many regards it is irrelevent.  I have read some of their work and in a way they have helped me come to the realizations that I have about the world.  Their work can be the first steps along this path, as long as you don't *stop* questioning.  But I have not read everything they have written.

I guess I was just happy to see someone doing SOMETHING! to stand up to the US government.

Kathy

Never Give Up!

Re: Not In Our Name

Bush Served with Indictments

International Commission of Inquiry On Crimes Against Humanity Committed by the Bush Administration New York on Jan 20-22

http://www.bushcommission.org/

They've diluted their statements and this is a symbolic act, but hopefully it will pave the way for something more substantial.

Never Give Up!