Topic: My boss replaced?

A couple months ago my boss was hospitalized for emergency surgery for a blocked artery.  He had been feeling not-so-great for a while with what we now know was partial blockage, then the crisis came.  It seems it was a life-or-death emergency.  I think the artery became fully blocked, and I don't know if there was a heart attack, because he doesn't really want to talk about it.

About 3 days later he shows up back at work, looking 100%  Absolutely none the worse for wear, saying he feels much better than before because the partially blocked artery is no longer blocked..   His usual self, such as he is.  But he did seem to forget a few things that had happened recently. 

Given the seriousness of the incident I expected that he would be out longer and/or look somewhat drained from the ordeal, at least.  Does anyone know if it's possible to come thru such a thing so smoothly?

I have this crazy hypothesis that perhaps he didn't survive the emergency and his body was replaced by a copy, controlled remotely from 4D.  The C's talk about this phenomenon.  Has anyone seen this happen?

Re: My boss replaced?

Hey Artichoke,

If his artery was 100% block then that definitely constitutes a heart attack, it's just a matter of time then, If he had a heart cath and stents put in with or without angioplasty then it is possible for the blockages to be lessened and him feeling that good and relatively recovered.

Stress and anaesthesia can do many wierd things to you.

For what it's worth.

Peace,
Teddy

"It means the Matrix can't tell you who you are" - Trinity

3 (edited by lyra 2005-12-24 09:18:25)

Re: My boss replaced?

artichoke wrote:

I have this crazy hypothesis that perhaps he didn't survive the emergency and his body was replaced by a copy, controlled remotely from 4D.  The C's talk about this phenomenon.

Would it matter if he was?   wink   Being that you're never going to get a clear cut answer on the issue, there's probably no sense in going in circles.   Also, if you're going to theorize that he's been replaced, you'd have to then ask yourself why.  Why would someone do that?  What's the motive or agenda?  What purpose would he be serving as a reanimated robotic agent?  To which you'll only have theories, and never any definitive answers.


artichoke wrote:

Has anyone seen this happen?

Seen it happen, as in watching the process and knowing 100% that it's real....no, I haven't.  At least, not consciously.  However, I don't know what I've seen during abductions. (although the subconscious knows and remembers all.)   But have I seen what amounts to the end result evidence of this?  Yes, I have.  It's a long story, a very long and convoluted story, and something I'm probably done talking about on the forum, for several reasons.  But I do feel compelled to tell you that yes, from my own personal experiences, this seems to be a legit phenomenon.   As crazy as this sounds, I'd go as far as to say that in regards to actual real, souled humans walking around in in all original packaging for bodies, they're in the minority on this planet;   or at least, there are areas of this country (talking about the U.S. here) mostly urban areas, where they are grossly outnumbered.  Outnumbered by what, you may be wondering?   Everything from non-souled empty puppets, holographic inserts, reanimated people, and "others" in disguise as humans.   

I myself can't see the "others" in disguise, but I know several very psychic women who can, and have.   They didn't relay their stories in an alarmist sensationalistic way, and were very calm and detached about it all, which was impressive.   But apparantly it's very real, and the movie "They Live" was more spot on than most would imagine.   

There was also a former NR member who mentioned witnessing the holographic insert background character "people."  And I've heard of many others who have similar stories;  one that I remember offhand involved somebody who was walking around outside in a downtown area and saw that in the crowd of people around her, most of the people's auras flickered on and off at the same time in synchronous unison, as if there was a "power glitch" or something from the source that controlled them, who knows.  The same person also mentioned seeing that many of the people in crowds around her, such as malls for instance, have no aura at all, what she deemed "the blanks."

I was once given a figure from a close source about the percentage of real, true souled humans in original packaging walking around out there in the world.  I can't vouch for the validity of it, but it's interesting, and I'll pass it along for consideration.   But the number given was roughly 3 out of 10 people.  30% of the population.   Take it with a grain of salt, ** but this was told to me before I had ever heard of such a thing. **  And that's why it's pretty damn amazing. !!! This was late 2001, before reading the C's transcripts, before learning of the term reanimated people, and before I had begun seriously researching any conspiracy topics.   And it was coming from somebody who had never read material of that sort either.

So for myself, I'm starting to believe it more and more.  At the time, I was given a ton of information about this whole deal, and it was so much and sounded so fantastic that I just put it all on the back burner.   There was no way to prove any of it at the time.   But as the years go by, I've been able to verify more and more of what I was told.   It's amazing.   At the time that I was told all this I went along with it, but I don't think that deep down I *truly* believed it.   It was all just a fun game at the time.   A kick ass distraction of mass proportions full of mucho intrigue.   But now I'm learning that it really was real, and the situation surrounding it all was far worse than anything I could have imagined.

Some people think that one can't have beliefs like this, whether it be "OPs", reanimated people, blank background characters, holographic inserts, etc., without delving into the realm of crazed, finger pointing paranoia.   To that I say, bunk.   Although it can happen though -  and too many people who learn about this aspect of reality get carried away with it and begin indiscriminately labeling people.  But in my case, I'm not finger pointing, calling somebody reanimated, or whatever.  When I'm talking to people, it's usually not even on my mind, to be honest.   For the most part, I can sense when someone is off, something's missing, something isn't right, and so I just stay away and keep a polite but detached distance.   I don't even TRY to theorize what could be going on with them.  The possibilities are endless, and the bottom line is, I'll never have proof.   So there's no point in wasting time over it.   Just move along.  If I had "the sight", like those psychic women I was once talking to, then I could know for certain.  But I don't, so, forget it. 

Think of it this way, especially in terms of your boss -  If it has no relevance to you, and he's not hurting anybody, then does it matter whether he was reanimated?

Anyway, that's just my feedback and insight into it all.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: My boss replaced?

If used correctly, this knowledge is empowering. The idea is to be objective, non-alarmist, practical, and levelheaded about it.

It's possible your boss was altered, or maybe he just had a fortunate recovery, but as Lyra said, in this case it actually doesn't matter what the case may be. But at least you'll have that possibility tucked away in your mind so that if you observe things that no "normal" explanation adequately accounts for, then at least you'll have a working hypothesis instead of scratching your head coming up with mundane rationalizations.

In case you haven't seen it, here's something I put together on this subject: http://www.montalk.net/HumanSimulacra.pdf   -- it's a compilation of various sources touching upon this subject. The Cosmic Awareness channeling, for instance, mentions that such duplicates are not uncommon in the upper levels of corporate environments. Other sources include the works of Karla Turner, the Ra Material, Dr Peter Beter, Cassiopaean transcripts, and various anecdotes from random people.

As for the C's, back  in '97 they commented that these types were spreading exponentially throughout the population, that they tend to be prone toward disseminating disinformation, are characterized by non-emotiveness and spend lots of time in solitude (some cases), and have electronically projected auras that are uniform between them. And supposedly all it takes is a "hospital visit" (their quotes).

Well, I certainly have experienced enough over the past five years to support this possibility, otherwise I wouldn't have gone on a quest years ago trying to find answers to my inexplicable observations.

Even if a third of the population were organic robots, big deal... finding and networking with people you truly resonate with largely bypasses the game of worrying of who is human and who is not, especially if you practice using your intuition to gauge how cautious you should be with certain individuals that just feel "off" for some reason. Even if only 1% of the population were "real", that would give me 60 million people from which to choose friends, perhaps a couple thousand within my geographic circle.

Nevertheless, applications of this stuff would range from knowing how to avoid getting replaced, remembering the warnings signs to watch for so that you don't get suckered by seemingly sincere disinformation agents, and understanding why certain people can behave so consistently, coldly, and unyieldingly programmed.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

Re: My boss replaced?

T-ren thanks, now I am thinking it must have been a heart attack.  Don't people usually look drawn and pale after a heart attack, and have less vitality going forward?  Not this guy.  Hmmm...

And here I was thinking it was only a few zombies wandering around ... I do remember the C's telling Laura (in about '95) not to go labeling people as zombies and that she had run into only a relative few in her life.  Lyra though as of '01 you were getting a number of 70% being somehow fake.   I haven't quite got thru mid '97 in reading the C's transcripts so I could be getting to what Tom is referring to.  I don't see auras either so I just have to feel my way along.  Lyra I promise I won't go off the deep end, but on discovering something like this how can I not be a little bit interested in it!?  You are too after all ...

Lyra I work in the suburbs outside NYC.  A bunch of people live in the city and commute out to our workplace.  I just live in the suburbs near work which is much more pleasant and convenient.  I never understood why because it costs them a lot of money to live in the city, those with kids need to pay for expensive private schooling, the commute takes them a lot of time, etc.  But if they need a daily "charge" of synchronization in the city, that would explain it.

My boss fits Tom's observations quite well.  He is now at an upper management level -- in fact he just got the big promotion right after the event, a promotion he had been after for years!  I remember thinking that now they won't promote him because they want healthy people in management, and if they do promote him, it would support a hypothesis that he is now a "replacement".  Yup, he was promoted.  My wife, who is good at such predictions, thought he would be passed over again, so something unusual must have happened if she was fooled!  Also I can say he was never a high scorer on my integrity-meter, and it's hard to tell yet if this has gotten worse now or stayed the same now.  He has seemed particularly cold emotionally since the event, but it's too soon for me to be sure about this.  From my reading of the C's, he would be / have been a candidate for "replacement" -- I didn't see evidence of the sort of knowledge that protects.  He is sort of "on autopilot" a lot (was before, still is now) with a bunch of programmed things he tends to repeat.  Meetings with him are quite boring.  I used to hate them until I realized that I didn't really have to pay attention to most things or react to what was said there -- it didn't matter.

Knowledge is important to me.  Well let's just say, if knowledge were not important, could anything else be important??  Sort of a contradiction on the meaning of "important" -- without knowledge, how can one even judge it?  Of course I'm swamped with other stuff to do and find out, and now I can file this particular question away and continue to observe.  I don't need to worry that my "people skills" -- with the conventional definition -- are at fault every time I just cannot make a connection with someone.  Maybe now I'm getting real people skills!

In fact I'm worrying less now, altogether!  With this learning process, I've become aware of an ongoing dread that I have had, now I think I am bringing it to the surface and can reduce / get rid of it.  When I just didn't understand what was going on, it made me afraid.  I used the fear to drive myself (e.g. to work hard).  I was even aware of the mechanism long ago.  But knowing, rather than fearing, is certainly a better way.:)

6 (edited by seemefly 2006-01-22 04:36:59)

Re: My boss replaced?

artichoke wrote:

I have this crazy hypothesis that perhaps he didn't survive the emergency and his body was replaced by a copy, controlled remotely from 4D.  The C's talk about this phenomenon.  Has anyone seen this happen?

Hi Artichoke,
   It seems to me that a lot of things could have happened to him.
  One possibility, in  particular, is an idea that I have having a lot of thought about lately- entity attachments. Supposedly (is that a word?),  a lot of discarnate entitys are hanging out at hospitals, waiting to attach themselves to a new person because they have just lost thier own bodies.
  My theory is that when a person becomes dangerously ill, feeble or just plain old,  any entities already attached to them, start looking for a differant person to latch on to. Perhaps it's possible that a person with a remarkable recovery has actually just LOST an attchment which has been draining thier energy. The question in my mind is : how has your boss been acting lately? Does he seem like a "differant person"?
  In my lifetime, I have witnessed some  rather unusual occurances which have caused me to ponder this question often.

7 (edited by LipstickMystic 2006-01-03 09:16:08)

Re: My boss replaced?

Entity attachments are extremely common. We all have them unless we clear ourselves out several times a day - depending on what type of environment we are moving through in our daily routine and how much psychic pollution surrounds us. The strength of our auric field also determines the amount and degree of attachments we pick up. These days, with all the electromagnetic pollution and interpersonal crud we move through, it's best to clear yourself out several times a day anyway!

We're also born with a lot of core attachments, so there is a lot of gunk we come in with. And some of it is tied to actions we've taken, illnesses we have experienced, and the death injuries we experienced in past lives. Other stuff we pick up from our physical parents, even the hospital in which our mum was treated when she gave birth to us; other stuff is genetically based across many generations and has an ancestral, tribal origin.

So the whole process of doing things like taking a nice soak in a bathtub with some sea salt at least once a week becomes really important - to learn to consistently clear off both the electromagnetic pollution we're constantly picking up from computers, cell phones, TV's, etc and also to clear out lower level elemental "cling-ons" plus discarnates, ET's, and yes, demons.  Salt tubs rock!  If you don't have a bathtub, you can use a bottle of water with some sea salt in it and spray sea salted water throughout your energy field. You'll notice a big difference in how you feel. The salt has the ability to clear out both electromagnetic gunk and parasitic etheric entities. It's one of the easiest, fastest things you can do to clear out. Add a little baking soda, too. I like to use about a quarter cup of salt and a few shakes of baking soda.

Artichoke, if your boss went through treatment at a hospital, there are loads of entities at hospitals hopping onto patients.  Just about the only way to prevent this is to a) invoke for clearing of the hospital before you set foot in it; b) invoke for clearing of the staff - doctors, nurses, tech help and c) set up a field/shield of protection around yourself using the colors, frequencies, symbols, or whatever works for you to block this stuff out.  Then you can pass in and out of the hospital entity-free.

You can do this on behalf of another person once you feel comfortable with the steps in the process, and it works just fine to hasten the person's recovery, manifest the best possible conditions for their treatment, etc. I also like to leave a permanent invocation in place for angelic and spiritual helpers to continually keep the place clean for as long as it is used as a hospital.  There are hosts of higher beings who are happy to help with this work.

(Sidenote - the only hospital I've been in that had very few entities "stuck" there was a Catholic hospital where Mass was conducted throughout the day.  All that prayer really worked to clear things out!  It was pretty remarkable, the difference in that place vs. a non-religious hospital.)

When you go under anasthesia (and didn't your boss go under during an operation?) you have to have invoked MAJOR PROTECTION to watch over both your physical body (so no uninvited guests enter) and also you need to invoke for major protection around your etheric body, which will tend to stroll around in a somewhat discombobulated way because of the effects of anasthesia and can be waylaid by negative entities who love to feed in hospital settings. It's possible your boss did come home with a "hijacker" who has assumed control of the helm.

Drugs of any kind, especially the strong beta blocker family of drugs, can also whack out the etheric and physical bodies and create holes, cracks, fissues in the energy field - again, when the "egg" or the auric field becomes weakened, opportunistic critters come in.

I know it sounds complicated. But it doesn't have to be. You can approach this with an attitude of humor, clarity, and fun and master it over time. The more you focus on spiritual sovereignty, power prayer (the kind of invoking of the Divine that carries NO doubt, absolute clarity and confidence,) and metaphysical wisdom, the better you get at it all. 

Learning to clear out the aura and strengthen it also REALLY helps your physical health and physical immunity. I haven't been sick in the four or more years since I finally starting getting to grips with this stuff.  This, when others around me have been stricken by bad flu, bronchitis, you name it.

The unensouled being thing is interesting.....I can say that many people I've met are partially possessed, and that a smaller percentage of them are VERY possessed to the point of not being human anymore.  But very few were unensouled.

To clarify - I'm definining "possession" as having other entities overlaying your core, essential being, and these overlaying entities gradually fool you over time into believing that the core YOU has certain flavors, emotional patterns, and attitudes.....which after you are cleared out, you'll realize ARE NOT YOU AT ALL.  Huge, bizarre fetishes for certain things, or addictions to things, are often gone from a person after they have removed these entity layers. You can go your whole life thinking, say, that steam trains are the cat's meow and then, after you remove entity attachments, you realize that that passion for trains was an overlay from a discarnate attachment imposing his tastes and addictions onto you.  And from then on, you don't give a piss about trains anymore!  Very interesting how what we think of as our core "personality" can often just be an overlay of critters imposing their tastes and addictions onto us.

Things get very ....quiet......and peaceful....after entity attachments are cleared out of you. And when things get quiet, you can move through life as a content observer, disengaged from the push/pull of the normal human emotional drama, and just enjoy the ride.

A possessing being may be a discarnate, even someone who died and still loves you. Helpful Heloise tip: Stop praying to your dead Daddy to be your spiritual guide!  He has his own business on the Other Side to attend to!  (I had a friend who would not listen to me about this one - sure enough, Daddy is now stuck in her energy field and preventing his daughter from ever getting a date again - because nobody is good enough for his little girl and he energetically pushes all her potential suitors away. UGH.)

Or a possessing being can be a complete "stranger" discarnate who has gained entrance. (It can also be more demonic ghoul types of energy or a mixture of all of them glommed together.)

Discarnate attachments are one of the primary causes of schizoprehnia. I've treated and cured people with schizophrenia and it was all due to entity overlays and attachments.  But if the person didn't take steps to do their OWN homework, reclaiming spiritual sovereignty and avoiding drugs, actions, and relationships that weakened their auric field, the voices eventually came back.  The one guy complained that he "missed" the voices after his lifelong schizophrenia was cured....sure enough, in a few months, they were back. Who wouldn't come back, after an invitation like that!

Partial possession is different than a total absence of soul, though. The average guy or gal has a few layers of gunk in their field; but some folks have this gunk almost down to their spiritual core. They are the deep-seated possessed ones.

The deeply possessed ones haven't a clue about it, either. They're usually the ragers, the depressives, the drug addicts, or the types who have the most intensely miserable lives with lots of emotional drama that is constantly being acted out.  They become psychic vampires constantly seeking "loosh" from others and have lost access to any internal light, the self-sustaining kind, within them.  These types can NOT be helped unless they start to become more self-aware. They plague the doorsteps of healers and therapists and become a royal pain in the ass because professionally, healers have pledged to help everybody. So how do they justify  turning a patient away because, frankly, they have lost touch with the immortal power of their soul and are simply leeching energy from everybody in their environment?

I eventually learned to turn those people away in my full-time counselling practice. But I was already severely ill and burned out from having naively tried to help these people for over a decade. Then I spent years clearing myself out and curing myself through shamanic healing, pranic healing, and entity release therapy. ( I'm all better now, thank you smile

We have so many layers of entity attachments from past lifetimes that the main trick I've found is to RENOUNCE ALL TIES OF ALLEGIANCE to any gods/goddesses (hint: ET's and demons) we've pledged service to throughout all lifetimes and realities. This can REALLY help you on your way to clearing core stuff out.

Then you reorient yourself by stating clearly, passionately, and repeatedly, "I am a spiritually sovereign being; I reclaim my spiritual sovereignty" until the ghouls start to leave you alone.....and this new clarity helps you to instantly spot when a critter is trying to trip you up and enter your life, your energy field, or your partner's energy field.  And then you can kick them out from a place of strength.  You'll also find yourself doing this in lucid dreams, clearing out critters seeking entrance through the dream realm.

Most of us are too weakened by deep-seated entity attachments to be of much use to others as healers until we ourselves have cleared out a great deal of goop. I hate to say it, but pretty much 99% of all psychics I've known had a lot of possession going on...mainly because they're so into worshipping this goddess or that god, etc. ad nauseaum, and Gods Dammit, they are all freakin' ET'S!  Get a grip, people!  (Thanks for letting me vent. I feel better now.)

I have met some unensouled - what do you call them?  people? they're not people.  Humanoid, perhaps, certainly with a human-seeming physical body - but that could simply be a holographic projection, so who really knows WHAT they are?  These beings do not have a soul - you can sense the complete absence of it. Quite an eerie thing.  It's much more eerie than encountering a human whose heart chakra and upper energy centers aren't open - those people aren't my favorites because they are so dark and heavy in vibration, but at least they still have a soul in their body!

The unsouled are completely Luciferian, they are from the void, and they are stealing more and more bodies here. 

But then, on the opposite side of the spectrum, there are vast spiritual armies quietly going about the business of kicking the Luciferians' butts. And angels walking around in human "clothing" too. Well, they use holographic bodies temporarily to effect a positive change in this realm.  Angels don't actually incarnate, because angels are bound by universal law not to enter human bodies.  I wish the channelers would understand that one. Angels can communicate, hover in a person's energy field, and communicate holographically from soul to soul. But they do NOT take over a voice. They do NOT take over a body. That's how you can distinguish the real ones from the Luciferian pretenders.

Okay, this is my mad ramble for the day. I get excited talking about entity attachment stuff since I've spent so many years working with this form of healing, but it's a little like having a dirty little hobby nobody wants to hear about.....so I usually just keep my mouth shut about it. It's nice to have a place to rant!

Lipstick Mystic aka Jennifer

8 (edited by lyra 2006-01-03 18:19:22)

Re: My boss replaced?

LipstickMystic wrote:

Okay, this is my mad ramble for the day. I get excited talking about entity attachment stuff since I've spent so many years working with this form of healing, but it's a little like having a dirty little hobby nobody wants to hear about.....so I usually just keep my mouth shut about it. It's nice to have a place to rant!

You're so funny..........I for one don't think you were rambling at all.  I always like your posts.   If only more posts were like this!   You have interesting things to say and write in an engaging way.  So ramble on, girl!  big_smile  It was a very informative and useful post.   Entity attachments is a huge and important subject.  If anybody's interest is piqued after reading your post then a good recommendation is Robert Bruce's "Practical Psychic Self Defense."   VERY useful handy book, and practical too, just like the title says!  big_smile  Gets into all aspects of negative entity attachments and harrassers and how to cleanse yourself and get rid of the pesky buggers.   There was stuff I found in that book that I've never seen anywhere else, and which matched up to a T many paranormal things that I've been witness to.   I about fell out of my chair so many times while reading it, it was uncanny.  Plus, I had the chance to meet Robert Bruce and hear him speak, and listened to him tell the tales in person that you'll read about in the book.  That was something else!  Hearing the stories from the author himself!  Always cool.   But he's a really great guy, very knowledgable and sincere.  And he's Australian!  Like I was saying in another thread, Australians have the best personalities on the planet!   Awesome friendly good humored people.   Let's hear it for Australia!  haha

On a sidenote, I just have to add since it's so fitting here, but I highly suspect that I have a piece of my dad attached to me.  Awhile back Montalk was telling me about the phenomenon of attachments occuring through overly protective and "concerned" parents or relatives or whatnot whose protectiveness is so fierce that literally, a piece of them is projected onto their target of concern.  (offspring, grandchild, etc.)   As soon as he mentioned that, something clicked.  I kind of just knew.  I began to look closer at my situation and personality, and damn if I don't have a bit of my dad attached to me!  I would swear I do.   He was INSANELY protective of me as a kid, like, he's the kind of dad that would have gone psychotic bonkers if somebody ever seriously hurt me.   So he fits the profile of the type of parent who would inadvertantly do something like that.   I have his taste for certain foods and drinks, talk like him, make his facial expressions, have the same penchant for picture taking and other interests of his, I even write my 7's European style like he does.  For no apparant reason!   I just do. It feels "normal" to me.  It goes on and on.   And it's weird, because I haven't even seen the guy in person in over 10 years, and only 3 times total in the last 15 years....so it's not like we live right near each other and see each other often, so he rubs off on me or some logical explanation like that.   I did a pendulum dowsing session to find out if this is what's going on and I got a huge yes.  Through my line of questioning I was told that yes, I have a piece of my dad attached to me, it would be a very wise idea to get rid of it, it is indeed responsible for my temperment and other personality issues - they're not really mine, they're his, and there would be a noticable difference in my personality if I got rid of the attachment.

I just have NO fricking clue how to go about doing something like this.  I think for something like this, I may need something a bit stronger than the old sea salt bath!  big_smile  haha   So any suggestions would be welcome.   There aren't exactly hypnotherapists listed in the phonebook advertising that they rid entity attachments and stuff...and even if there were, how do you know who you can trust?? 

At any rate, thanks again LipstickMystic for the kick ass post!  Lots of great info. there.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: My boss replaced?

Jennifer,

That's all very interesting and I don't doubt it, but how do you know that this whole cast of characters exists?

Do you see them?  Can I learn to see them?

David

10 (edited by lyra 2006-01-04 13:15:56)

Re: My boss replaced?

artichoke wrote:

Jennifer,

That's all very interesting and I don't doubt it, but how do you know that this whole cast of characters exists?

Do you see them?  Can I learn to see them?

David

Hi artichoke,

I know your question was directed at LipstickMystic, but I just wanted to say that I actually have seen what (seemed to be...) "entity attachments" on somebody.  Only once though.  The rest of the time, there was only indirect evidence of it.   It was on my brother - I was in my room one afternoon when he came home from his then job, and stormed down the hall, past my bedroom door.  I looked up, seeing him pass by.....and saw that there was a stream of "sparklies" trailing behind him.  Like a comet's tail.  It was a string of sparkling (really pretty actually) dots of light.

I had never seen something like that before.   I'd seen "the sparklies"...but not trailing somebody like a comet's tail.   I slowly followed him into his room, calling "Uh...Joe....?  Um....Joe???"   big_smile 

"WHAT!" he barked at me.

"Um...when you walked by my door, I saw a trail of sparkly things....following you...."   He calmed down a little, and admitted that a few others at his work had noticed this phenomenon as well.  He was in a pissy mood, and the "activity" around him was in high gear.  He was well of his "hitch hikers", as he deemed them.  That was the first time I'd heard that term....would later see it used in Robert Bruce's book, which I mentioned in my previous post.  My brother had never seen that book though.  But hitchhiker is an apt word for it.  They are clingers-on, hungry for a body they can attach to, probably to experience 3rd density, since they have no body of their own.

The "sparklies" are a yellow orange color, and look like embers from a fire, but with an actual golden sparkle to them.  They shimmer.   That would be the word for it.   Shimmer.   Glittering.   They're pretty, but it doesn't mean you want to have them sticking to you!  big_smile   From what I've pieced together, each one is literally, a soul, some kind of spark of soul energy or something.   And they have intelligence.  They are aware.  They used to gather around me in my room in that paranormal apartment where I lived with same said brother until I commanded them to leave one day.  And they did.  Then I felt bad.  !  My brother told me if I didn't want them around, to tell them to leave.  Yell at 'em.  So we did, joking around, yelling at the "sparklies" that were blipping in and out of the air in my room.   By the next day they were gone.  And they never did come back.  I only saw the occasional "ember" sparkly blipping here and there in the air, but never a cluster of shimmery  lights like there had been prior.   That's why I believe they are human, because non-human entities WILL NOT listen to you, you no matter what you tell them.   They ain't havin' it.   wink   That's why I felt kind of bad after I yelled at themt to leave - because they really do act sentient, they're responsive.   I'd be sitting on my bedroom floor, doing whatever, and they'd always show up and gather around me.  At first I would try to ignore them, looking at them with an occasional nervous and wary look as I was writing, or reading, or whatever, but after awhile they grew on me.  They were like these little friends or something.   It's hard to explain.  Like if a cluster of sad, stray animals gathered around you or something.  It was like that.  smile

Anyway, there's one version of how they can look when they're "hitch hiking" on somebody.....

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: My boss replaced?

Hi Lyra,

That's interesting.  It sounds like you saw them in your room, as well as following your brother.  Did things go better for you after you sent them away?

I wonder if you can get them to do work for you?  Can you make a deal that they can stay if they will do some chores?  Can they do anything useful besides interfering in someone else's free will?  I guess the theory is that they need to feed off of loosh so they create mischief.

David

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Re: My boss replaced?

artichoke wrote:

i Lyra,

That's interesting.  It sounds like you saw them in your room, as well as following your brother.  Did things go better for you after you sent them away?

No....they were a symptom of something greater going on in that place, versus being the sole problem.  It wasn't too long after they were gone that things just became all out in that apartment, which made me long for the days of the sparklies that were so benign and fun to look at!  smile At least they were harmless.   



artichoke wrote:

I wonder if you can get them to do work for you?  Can you make a deal that they can stay if they will do some chores?

I wasn't sure if you were joking here or not.....!  big_smile   I have no idea to be honest.  I never tried.   I think it's probably best to not have them around.  It can't be a good thing having any sort of hitchhikers and / or symbiotic relationships going on between human and non-physical entities.  Even if it's something small and seems relatively harmless, it might leave one open to something bigger and badder coming in.  I've said on other threads that it's best to keep "open doors" closed, being that most people don't have the ability to control what comes through....

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: My boss replaced?

Well I was sorta kidding -- unless you or someone else can tell me how to put the guys to work!!

Can one really keep doors shut anyway?  Something I recall from my Qigong training is that one doesn't resist but just observes.  Stuff can flow through you from one side to the other, don't worry about it.

Re: My boss replaced?

artichoke wrote:

Well I was sorta kidding -- unless you or someone else can tell me how to put the guys to work!!

Can one really keep doors shut anyway?  Something I recall from my Qigong training is that one doesn't resist but just observes.  Stuff can flow through you from one side to the other, don't worry about it.

You're right in that stuff will always flow through us;  Also, we all have the potential to be vessels or vectors that can be used by both positive and negative forces, depending on our awareness and what we choose to allow through.  By actual "doors" though I'm thinking more along the lines of actually consciously inviting stuff in.  Like, "Hey guys!  Here I am!  Come here!"  That sort of thing.  Negative stuff can't resist such an opportunity.  wink   And that whole symbiotic, "Rub my back and I'll rub yours" sort of deal isn't how something positive would operate anyway, as I understand it.   Typically the negs and tricksters operate in such a fashion.  And they don't always hold up their end of the bargain.  Or if they do, but you don't hold up yours, then things can get very ugly, very quickly.   So I've read.  !  Dangerous territory that's not a good idea to mess with;  you may find yourself entangled in a situation that you can't extracate yourself from.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: My boss replaced?

lyra wrote:
artichoke wrote:

Well I was sorta kidding -- unless you or someone else can tell me how to put the guys to work!!

Can one really keep doors shut anyway?  Something I recall from my Qigong training is that one doesn't resist but just observes.  Stuff can flow through you from one side to the other, don't worry about it.

You're right in that stuff will always flow through us;  Also, we all have the potential to be vessels or vectors that can be used by both positive and negative forces, depending on our awareness and what we choose to allow through.

I think that it's what we allow to control us.  If we can observe something, we are generally in control, at least in my experience.  Whereas if we close something off and don't allow it to flow through, it is actually influencing and thereby controlling us.  It can "push" against the barrier and exert a type of force.  And if something is around and we don't even know about it to observe it, then we are not in control either.

lyra wrote:

By actual "doors" though I'm thinking more along the lines of actually consciously inviting stuff in.  Like, "Hey guys!  Here I am!  Come here!"  That sort of thing.  Negative stuff can't resist such an opportunity.  wink   And that whole symbiotic, "Rub my back and I'll rub yours" sort of deal isn't how something positive would operate anyway, as I understand it.   Typically the negs and tricksters operate in such a fashion.

I feel you're right but let me play devil's advocate for a moment.  My deal is that I can employ 100 golden sparkles to wash the dishes, and in return they get to hang out with me in 3rd density or whatever they find useful about being around.  What's wrong with that?

lyra wrote:

And they don't always hold up their end of the bargain.  Or if they do, but you don't hold up yours, then things can get very ugly, very quickly.   So I've read.  !  Dangerous territory that's not a good idea to mess with;  you may find yourself entangled in a situation that you can't extracate yourself from.

I feel that this is true too.  You can't just be greedy and cheat everyone else.  You'll end up with broken kneecaps wearing cement shoes, swimming with the fishes in 2nd density or something!

(Does anyone reincarnate in a lower density?  Once the C's mentioned that Laura might have been a 4th density Lizard in "previous" incarnation.  So might a 3rd density STS human have to reincarnate in 2nd density or go all the way to 1st, then climb all the way back up on the STO side?  I suppose so, if those are the lessons that need to be learned!)