Whom to Believe

Hi Spartan,

Congratulations on seeking some heavy stuff.

When I started out in the early 90s, I hit the library and went through the UFO and spirituality section. The plus side was that these were published books, and were selected to be stocked in the library. So they were already filtered a bit, and each book presented its case from start to finish. That gave me a foundation.

The internet, on the other hand, has so much variety and at times loony-ness that it can be overwhelming knowing where to start and how to sort it out. So I would recommend a bit of both, books to ground and flesh in the details, internet to supplement and introduce.

Reason I say this is because the more material you chew through, the easier it becomes to tell the potential accuracy of a source. It's like being a connoisseur of some food or drink, with experience comes better discernment of the subtleties.

If you can explain to another what a source is saying, and why you agree or disagree with it, then you have sufficiently understood it to make that call. Otherwise it would be mere bias. Biased skepticism and naive gullibility are the two things to watch out for...

You brought up two interesting examples, the Phoenix Journals and the Cassiopaean Transcripts. If you had no background in fringe stuff and came upon both, you'd be taken aback by the equal strangeness between them.

With experience, you may see that one better correlates with your own research, and the other has more warning flags signalling fabrication or outright deception.

I believe that by being familiar with methods of deception and manipulation, you can more easily cut out the rotten parts and take the good stuff. Do that to both sources you mentioned... what do you like and dislike about each? If there is potential for deception, what in each source might indicate this? If there is potential for sincerity and accuracy, what in each source might show that instead?

For instance, you asked if there is any evidence that the Cassiopaean transcripts is by negative beings. I sense that there are portions of the transcripts that have an odd tone not fitting to the rest of the material, and that these are laced with more corruption than the rest. Overall, I don't sense that the Cassiopaeans are deceptive. Or rather, if they are telling lies, then I myself was born with these lies within me and have experienced them as practical principles in my life, because a majority of the  material resonates with me and correlates with my own insights and experiences.

There's lots of stuff out there with a deceptive bent, but if you examine as many as you can then patterns appear. For instance, material by negative beings tends to have a fundamental tone of glib insincerity, authoritative pushiness, constant appeals to ego, rationalizations for all things that might arouse suspicions about the source, appeals to doom and survival, and empty complexity trying to pass off as profundity. Negative sources are also big on using prophecies, paranormal demonstrations, and extreme synchronicity to overwhelmingly impress those they are trying to ensnare. I know this from observing the same pattern among sources that inevitably reveal themselves to be deceptive.

Good material tends to have these qualities instead: supports what you yourself have experienced, observed, or gained through insight / explains things better and more completely than anything you have previously come across / is not riddled with concepts and suggestions you can easily disprove through counter-example / does not waste your time with endless trivia or superfluous language / makes sense and feeds your need to know, yet compels you to learn more for yourself / helps you attain new insights, which are really rememberings of what you already know / presents principles and ideas that can be tested through experience and are verified later / preaches either a service-to-self philosophy or makes one vulnerable to such beings / appeals to emotional stability and lucidity instead of overwhelming negativity or blissful positivity.

Do some research on NESARA and Dove, and you'll get a better perspective on the source behind the Phoenix Journals. Rather than dissect it for you, I'll just state my opinion that it all has the same vibe, uses the same tactics, invokes similar names from other odd channelings like Ashtar, Sananda, Hatonn, Germain, Gabriel, etc...

Comparing two sources is a good exercise... if two things contradict, then a) could the answer be a mix of both, b) might one need to be chosen over the other, c) can a new perspective show that neither contradicts the other, or d) are they both false?

Ultimately, it's your call on what appeals to you. As long as you don't betray your intuition, experience, insight, and reasoning, you won't get permanently off track.

Yeah, you really gotta go with your own impressions first and let the opinions of others be mere possibilities to consider. You can tell when something has the "ring" of truth, or the "smell" of deception. This intuitive sensation then helps you logically zoom in on what precisely is so resonant or fishy about a particular source.

The Phoenix Journals appeal to a certain spectrum of individuals who have yet to learn some important lessons about the price of wishful thinking. The material has too many psychological, emotional, and spiritual control tactics for me to recommend to others except as an exercise in studying methods of deception.

But some people love that stuff, so whatever works for them. The only way to know what works for you is to use both your intuition and critical thinking in examining the material yourself. If you use neither and instead let whatever appeals to your ego insecurities pull you in, then you can latch on to all kinds of backwards belief systems.

I should also add that you may never know with absolute certainty whom to believe or what is true. But you don't need absolute certainty to pick what is better, what is more resonant, what is more consistent. There is a common fear people have of making mistakes, of falling for deception. Their fear can become so great that rather than moving forward and learning through trial and error, they park themselves atop the fence and place their belief in nothing except for a very small set of blatantly obvious truths. This turns them into agnostic little rabbits too afraid to go down the rabbit hole...  You can avoid their fate by following your interests and learning from your mistakes...the farther you go, the more you learn, the fewer mistakes you make, the farther you go.

Hi meta-agnostic,

Welcome to the forum. There is a possibility, which only recently came to mind, that the more questionable elements of Matrix V are purposely put in as tests of discernment. It would turn away those who are easily turned off, let others suffer the consequences of their own gullibility, and ensure that only a few who discard the traps obtain the wisdom.

But I think the chances of that are very low, because the actual vibe of the material is icky and I have seen examples of positive authors using tests of discernment where regardless the positive vibes still come through. Not only tests of discernment, but as you suggested, safety mechanisms to prevent themselves from getting nailed. Tom Bearden comes to mind here.

Of course, if you have discernment you can get a lot out of the material. The question is whether this was intended, or whether the actual and ultimate intent was deception but like all darkside tactics you can turn it around if you're careful. It's a call you'll have to make yourself... All I can say is that I liked his previous material a lot more, and the rabid change in attitude and published content following introduction of the Final Incarnation material made me uneasy.

As you have discovered, the more widely read you become, the more discerning you grow...therefore to anyone in a predicament wondering whom to believe, I would recommend patiently contemplating your way through a variety of material and noticing which ones have the ring of truth, keeping only what makes sense and resonates.

The books by Robert Monroe are fascinating, and have related themes. That would be "Journeys out of the Body", "Far Journeys", and "Ultimate Journey." The Matrix V material borrows from these books a bit, and The Author claims to receive his information about the Mintakan lizzard queen from his trips to Focus Level 27. You learn more about Focus Levels in Monroe's books.

As for soul cosmology, several classics come to mind:  "Seth Speaks" and "The Nature of Personal Reality" - both by Jane Roberts and Robert Butts. Another would be "The Law of One" material by L/L Research, also known as the Ra Material.

"The Convoluted Universe" by Dolores Cannon, books I and II, contain a large variety of concepts from which you must discern what is worth keeping. At the very least, it is entertaining and has a good vibe.

There are numerous other possible sources to recommend, maybe others here have additional suggestions.

Alright, there are now some nicely formatted official PDF versions of the Ra Material.