Re: The Music Thread

Barefoot Doc wrote:

Hi Choice would you say there is balanced music and unbalanced music.

I don't know, that may be the case.. what I would say is that in terms of subjective taste in music,
in terms of what I like, or dislike, that my opinion is not an objective definition.

I'm speaking about comparing styles or genres of music, or comparing artists within a genre,
and suggest that to say this one is 'good' or that one is 'bad' is just an opinion, lacking in any
empirical data.

choice wrote:

If I were to play the greatest selling or most popular or widely acknowledged artists' records to a tribal person from the deep amazon,
and they were to be unimpressed, would it mean the music was crap or that the person had no taste?
Both.. and neither. It's cultural, and subjective.

If I were to play uplifting spiritual classical music to this same person, and they didn't like it, that wouldn't mean that it
doesn't encourage plant growth or unchaotic crystal patterns in water, it would just that they had an opinion about it,
and that the music is not 'bad' because they didn't like it.

Objective art may elicit the same response from each listener, but I'm talking here about pop culture, and opinions.
You would probably find people that don't like Mike Oldfield's music, as well as folks like yourself that do, it's not that
either of you would be able to categorically prove that his music is good, or bad.

What will sound uplifting, or create feelings of serenity for some, may be thought of as turgid or dull by others.

Barefoot Doc wrote:

Music is encrypted sound energy and will have an effect on our bodies and mind regardless of subjective taste.

Doc, would you say that this effect is the same for every body/mind that is exposed to it, and how would you say this effect
could be measured?

Well, this thread seems to be meandering away from my original understanding of posting some music to share with a 'take
what resonates' for those that might enjoy it, rather than critiquing music that I don't like. I'd already decided not to comment
on montalk's post above for this reason, but if it gets moved away from the humour and fun section (not sure where to though)
I do think there is a lot of food for thought in these meanderings.

*Choice chooses some music to listen to that he finds uplifting and sets the industrial-strength flamethrower radar on auto*  wink

Everything in what we call creation is energy resonating at different frequencies.
The universe is a song...

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Music is the key...songs in the key of life...and all that jazz...

What a fascinating thread this has become. And since music is a huge part of my life, can't imagine life (now) without it, I wanted to add a couple of other notes:

Sometimes our musical appetites are influenced by prejudices and moods.

Prejudices -- We can be prejudiced for or agin certain songs, or even certain genres of music. Two examples: growing up (early 60s) I used to hear lots of country music, along with plenty of pop, British Invasion stuff, rock n roll, Motown, California dreaming, folk, funk, blues, jazz, and lest I forget plenty of religious/Christian hymns and Christmas carols. I enjoyed it all for the most part. But the country music was usually played by my father who at the time was part loving, caring, good father and family guy, and part violent, raging, mean-spirited drunk. While much of the country that I'd hear was on the radio, it was also the only music that my father played at home, and I still have images of him getting sauced and sentimental, while singing along to some of the whiniest, and most sentimental (self-pitying) country music. Needless to say, I developed a strong dislike for country music; and it was years before I came around to realize that I really liked some of it; nowadays I can even hear some of his old-time favs and happily sing along, without cringing, even enjoying some of the whinier, sappy ones. Best of all, since I opened myself up to it, I've come to know and appreciate more and other country music; most of it "old school" or classic country though since most modern country has little appeal to me. And though I'm hard pressed to name a modern country artist, I'm certain that there's some good modern country music still being made.

The 2nd example of prejudice for or agin music is something I've observed in other people. There are some who listen to ONLY this genre or that, to the exclusion of other genres. So be it! However I do find it peculiar that sometimes these same people, some of whom do have eclectic tastes, consider themselves to have open, broad-minded tastes in music, while dismissing entire genres that they have barely sampled. Their minds are closed for whatever reasons, and they summarily ignore, even hate an entire genre, without giving it a fair hearing.

Moods --  Taste in music also seems to be mood "dependent". My musical appetite is all over the map, though like most I have my favs. And in addition to the music I listed above, I've come to hear and enjoy some classical, disco, techno, fusion, reggae, soca, hip-hop, rap, etc... And there are times when I'm not in the mood, for even a favourite song or artist.

Something recently happened (happened before too) that I'll use to illustrate this:

I was in the kitchen cooking dinner. No music on. My son came in, turned on the radio and a song began playing. I started dancing around the room spontaneously, as I'm inclined to do, enjoying the song, its rhythms, the beat, the tune. When it stopped, I looked at my son and asked "That was good, who was that?" He had a big grin on his face, said, "That's 50 cent!" and started laughing. I returned, "No way!". Then I started laughing, adding "Well I still don't like him". Because I'd said before that I don't like 50 cent. Once used to sing along to his first hit, forget the name. Very catchy, mindless, dance tune. But, his whole I'm a thug, I'm a gangsta, pimp, whateverrrr, got irritating really fast.  Btw, my 21 yr. old, listens to lots of reggae, hip-hop, and rap, including some gangsta rap, and he enjoys and sings along with some oldies too, pop, Motown, rocknroll... And fortunately, he's pretty level-headed and has not been seduced by the gangsta/thug image and culture. He sees it for what it's worth. Ditto for most all of his friends.

So, it seems that not only can mood influence our musical appetite, but that even a disliked artist (in this case 50 cent) can influence our mood in a positive way. I can almost guarantee that if I'd heard the radio dj announce that the next song was 50 cent, that I would have tuned it out.

Which brings me back to the question of prejudice, even though I've determined through listening, not just sampling, that I do not like gangsta music and consider it to be damaging and dangerous, that I wouldn't spend 5 cents supporting it, I can't even summarily dismiss 50 cent's music as total crap, cause I did enjoy that tune. Didn't pay attention to the lyrics btw, don't think I missed much wink

Oh, and another genre of music which I don't like is metal. I change stations whenever I hear or see Metallica, for example. But, I guarantee that at the right moment, in the appropriate mood, I swear that I could enjoy a Metallica moment.

FWIW, that's my fiddy cent contribution to this thread.

Re: The Music Thread

czyx wrote:
Xenopope wrote:

Could you do me a favour and take out the Breakcore and Sample-based Instrumentals and post them separately?

Sure. Here you go!

Hey, sorry but I'm a goof and let the file expire before I finished downloading it. It says it expires after 7 days or 25 downloads, whichever is first. I _did_ get 44Mb d-loaded before it expired, so I'm not _completely_ useless . . Aren't there other file hosters who don't delete your files? Anyway, if it's not too much trouble, could you host it again somewhere?

I am as is Void.

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Xenopope wrote:

Hey, sorry but I'm a goof and let the file expire before I finished downloading it. It says it expires after 7 days or 25 downloads, whichever is first. I _did_ get 44Mb d-loaded before it expired, so I'm not _completely_ useless . . Aren't there other file hosters who don't delete your files? Anyway, if it's not too much trouble, could you host it again somewhere?

YouSendIt is the only working host I know of that allows files bigger than 50MB, unfortunately. (SaveFile allows 60MB files, but it's full.) There's another place called RapidUpload that claims to allow up to 300MB, but I can't get it to accept this file. I've sent the .rar to YouSendIt again, and I've also broken it up and sent it to RapidShare. Their site says: "We will host your file FOREVER! (Deleted only if there is not even one download for more than 30 days.)"

Here's the link to the .rar file. And here it is split in two: [1][2]. Enjoy!

Is Zonabi still around? I think he'd really like this stuff, too.

--Justin

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Kay thanks again. Yes I think Zonabi would still be around, I saw him online the other day . .

I am as is Void.

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wow thanks for the files, I really liked the ones in the breakcore category.

I am as is Void.

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Here is my favorite alice in chains song  "Got me wrong" http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=9078938

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Summore OSZ for ya membrane.

First two and fourth track (ironically skipping 'New World Order' which I didn't like) off of 'Is This Room Getting Smaller' - Track 1 - Instead Laugh -

" . . . I drink from your mind . . .  . . . it tastes so divine . . . "

Track 2 - Holding Cell

And Track 4 - A Point in Time " . . . Feel so alive . . . "

The first time I heard the first two tracks I couldn't tell where track 2 began. I like the way they transition the song from 1 to 2. And the extro to 2 is awesome. Try listening to 1 and 2 back to back and see if you can tell it's two songs.

I am as is Void.

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I discovered how to use Save File.com!


Since it's the Holiday Season, thought I'd post my favorite funny Christmas song, "The 12 Pains of Christmas."   Too funny!   Enjoy...........

http://www.savefile.com/files2.php?fid=7155298

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Here's one for all you nails fans out there - my own personal remix of Happiness in Slavery off of Fixed. Yes it's a remix of a remix. xD strictly a 'cut & paste' remix - just rearranged the song and layered some beats over others . . with a bit of an emphasis on the samples of tortured screams . . . =O . . I call it the Exegesis remix . .

HAPPINESS IN SLAVERY {EXEGESIS REMIX}

The ahh . . decibals are a bit high on it so just be sure you don't start it with the volume on max. wink

I am as is Void.

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Xenopope wrote:

HAPPINESS IN SLAVERY {EXEGESIS REMIX}

The ahh . . decibals are a bit high on it so just be sure you don't start it with the volume on max. wink

Except for the volume, that was a fine remix. It sounded like it would fit right in on an official NIN remix album.

--Justin

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If anyone here likes Bjork, Radiohead and that sort of stuff, check Sigur Ros. Amazing band.

Heres a link to their video section

I would recommend the untitled #1 [a.k.a. vaka] music video. Probably the most powerful and moving music video ive ever seen.


http://www.sigur-ros.co.uk/media/dldvideo.php

Tshu Shabi Vha Dest O'lo Kolush Ghalak Estu Cei

/T\

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It was inevitable that I would post more video game music, the only question was . . . when. big_smile (My first installation was last year.)

These are from the Overclocked Remix website. Artist's renditions of music themes from the original Metroid video game series. smile

These first two are originally done by the composer of the video game Metroid (1986) - it's the theme for Kraid's hideout, both done on piano. smile

Kraid - Disturbed - Kraid Performance

Kraid - AmIEvil Bluebase OC ReMix

This one uses themes originally found in Metroid III for SNES - theme from the Norfair mini-boss . . whatever his name is. big_smile Those who are not hardcore D&B or breakcore fans might not like it.. . it's a bit . . ah, hectic. LOL!!!
OverCoat - Riddles

I am as is Void.

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Here's some more breakcore. The file contains the following tracks:

DJ 6666 - Dead Nation
DJ Scud (aka Alec Empire) - Coldharbour Lane 2002
Doormouse - Skelechairs (Venetian Snares Remix)
Epsilon - The Destroyer
Jason Forrest - Evil Doesn't Exist Anymore
Wisp - Negions Fail

--Justin

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I love jazz.