Topic: An open letter to David Icke.

Dear Mr. Icke,

It is with deep regret that I am writing to inform you that I will no longer be visiting your website, purchasing your books, or in any other way supporting your work. A time of choice is now at hand for me, and already I have decided in which direction I will be travelling. Allow me to explain, if you will:

I have been visiting your website now for the last five years or more, and I will readily admit that the information therein served its purpose in helping to awaken my programmed, indoctrinated mind to the reality of life upon this planet. Thanks to you, the visible selfishness of my own species finally began to make sense as I realized how we are all being manipulated by a heirarchical system of control that is entirely callous and utterly inhuman.

And so, for a good many years I enjoyed filling my brain with all manner of conspiracy facts and theories. It felt good to dismiss the responsibility for my species' rapid deconstruction of every natural ecosystem on Earth by passing it off onto a race of evil Reptilian/Alien overlords. It is their fault that we were all acting this way, you said; it is their fault that we are here endlessly fighting against one another, because that is how they maintain their control.

It made a lot of sense to me for a time, and as your group of 'followers' grew from just a few thousand worldwide a decade ago to the millions who actively support your work now, I almost begun to have hope that things around here might just change for the better. I almost thought that, because of you and others like you disseminating this information, that people would finally wake up.

But who was I kidding?

I now find myself at a point where I am completely disillusioned with all of this New Age love and light bullshit, and endless conspiracy crap. The followers of the Cult of Icke, as I shall call it for want of a better name, are no more enlightened than the followers of any other religious or political belief system you care to name. They are merely sheep who have moved out of one pen and straight into another, whilst believing themselves to have been set free.

There is a difference you see, between talking the talk, and walking the walk. And I'm sorry to say it Mr. Icke, but all I've seen you and your followers doing so far is a whole lot of talking. Your lips might be moving, as they often are for hours on end, but your feet are still stuck firmly to the ground.

Do you know why this has happened? You don't? Then I'll tell you. As much as it pains me to say it Mr. Icke, your conspiratorial worldview has now become quite fashionably mainstream. It's now even considered quite trendy to talk about the Illuminati, and the New World Order, and the matrix, and even other dimensions of conscious experience. No longer weird and abnormal is this; it's now become the hallmark of those who consider themselves 'enlightened' and 'in the know'.

And whilst some would say that knowledge is power, I'm here to tell you that this is absolute bullshit. I'm almost sorry to say this Mr. Icke, but knowledge - of and by itself - means absolutely f*ck all: it is nothing more than an intellectual wankfest. So whilst you continue to pump out one oversized book after another, each one endlessly repeating numerous facts and figures about who engaged in what conspiracy and when, and whilst your growing and fanatically loyal readership enjoys soaking this up in the misguided belief that they are becoming more and more 'enlightened' with every turn of the page, you might just fail to notice that things down here aren't actually getting any better.

The sheep are all still asleep, you see. They may now be better read, better educated, more informed sheep - but that's all. They may be able to tell you the names of all thirteen families that compose the Illuminati; they may be able to take apart the official story of 9/11 piece-by-piece; they may even know a thing or two about quantum physics, non-locality, the Kaluza-Klein theory, and David Bohm's holographic principle.

The problem is that no one is really demonstrating their understanding of this information in the manner that they choose to live within their daily lives. They are simply paying lip service to truths that they are not yet ready to understand and integrate; they are still living and thinking within the same old mental boxes that they did before you and your Reptilians came along. It's quite one thing to say, "this reality I live within is an illusion," but it's a different thing entirely to demonstrate your understanding of this in your daily words and actions and interactions with other people.

You see, they are all still buying into the illusion, Mr. Icke. They are all still taking it so very, very seriously indeed. They are all still speaking out against people, events, and situations that do not conform to the expected 'norms' of our sickening society. They are all still playing the game by its rules. Everything is still all life and death, right and wrong, good and evil, black and white to them. They haven't truly learned the value of allowance, of acceptance, of freedom, of uniqueness, and of experience. They are all still too busy struggling to survive and thrive; still fighting to impose petty limitations on other people and on themselves. They are all, for want of a better term, "spiritual wannabes." Smarter, but none the wiser.

They may have listened to you, you see, but they have not yet truly understood.

Just like yourself, Mr. Icke. You are the most gifted person on this planet when it comes to talking the talk. I know, because I've personally seen you do it for hours upon hours on more than one occasion. But when it comes to walking the walk however, you often fall flat on your face. Take - for example - your recent e-mail to those people, like myself, who were subscribed to your newsletter, wherein which you whined on and on about not getting anything in return for your efforts, then threatening to stop completely if people don't start appreciating you quick-smart!

And yet how many times in your books and speaking events do you wax lyrical about the value of self-sacrifice; about giving without the expectation of receiving something in return? You're sending mixed messages to your audience, you see. No wonder the poor buggers are all confused - not that I'm trying to excuse their behavior or pass off the responsibility for their actions onto your good self. I wouldn't do that to you, no matter how frustrated I might be.

So I'm sorry for my tone here, really I am; but I'm increasingly tired of the bullshit. I'm tired of people dabbling into materials that they are clearly not yet ready to comprehend. At least, not without a major shift in perspective. You've basically gone and done what Microsoft did with the computing world: you've taken something that is normally quite complex, that requires a modicum of intelligence and competence to understand correctly, and dumbed it down just enough to make it palatable and understandable to an audience that otherwise wouldn't get it. And now we are paying witness to the inevitably similar end result.

It is for this reason that I can no longer support yourself or your work. Although you may - perhaps - have the best of intentions, your methods leave much to be desired. You've done much to help inform, but very little so far to help transform. It hardly matters whether or not there is a race of nasty Reptilians controlling our financial, educational, political, media and healthcare systems. It isn't the bloody Reptilians that are the real problem down here - it's us; and as long as yourself and others keep endlessly spouting on about how nasty these lizard folks are you're simply distracting the real human beings on this planet from actually taking responsibility for themselves, and making a positive change. Knowingly or not, you're only engaging in further promoting victim mentality, thus disempowering people even more, and keeping them locked within a false cage of self-imposed experiential limitation.

So, here's a thought. How about this for your next book: You don't mention the frigging Illuminati. You don't mention the Reptilians. You don't talk about the matrix. No history lessons about how the bloodlines moved from Sumeria and Egypt, into Rome, then England, and finally across to America. You don't make so much as a passing comment about September 11th. And no more jokes about how stupid President Bush is (talk about stating the obvious!) If you could instead offer something truly unique, something that has the potential to really wake people up - not just to the global fascist agenda, but to themselves and their own programmed behavior - then I'll be on your side once again.

Until then, it's goodbye from me.

Jason.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

Re: An open letter to David Icke.

Well said, & good read.  smile

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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Re: An open letter to David Icke.

Great job, Jason.  Extremely well put; you must have been reading my thoughts about Icke lately.  I sincerely love and have great respect for the man, but I feel he's become a tool for the darkside, knowingly or not.

If I wrote that letter, I would simply have added that his headlines spew forth nothing but bad news, along with jokes about topics which are anything but funny.  Why, so we can laugh them off and forget them, not take them seriously?

I think you covered that he does a lot of talking, and not so much walking.  It's easy to spew forth endless negative-biased headlines, but it's a lot harder to offer sincere solutions and cover the progress of the forces of light -- the "good" side of the news needs covering too.  Otherwise he's just acting as a PSY-OPS agent.  And if they're not paying him for it, that's even worse because he's doing their job for free.

His answer for all these things seems to be: dont believe in it and it will just go away magically, go hug a tree and be happy.  Thanks, but I can do without the sap.

Again, good work my man... love and respect.

-another Jason

This is no time for the righteous
Only the wicked survive
Bake up a batch of the Yellow Cake
Bake up a batch of the lies
- - - - -[ Yellow Cake - Ministry - Rio Grande Blood (2006)

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Re: An open letter to David Icke.

Well said. It's time to ORGANIZE the "robot's rebellion". This gave me strenght to post this text, written on this subject last summer.

Re: An open letter to David Icke.

Neomatrix wrote:

The problem is that no one is really demonstrating their understanding of this information in the manner that they choose to live within their daily lives. They are simply paying lip service to truths that they are not yet ready to understand and integrate; they are still living and thinking within the same old mental boxes that they did before you and your Reptilians came along. It's quite one thing to say, "this reality I live within is an illusion," but it's a different thing entirely to demonstrate your understanding of this in your daily words and actions and interactions with other people.

You see, they are all still buying into the illusion, Mr. Icke. They are all still taking it so very, very seriously indeed. They are all still speaking out against people, events, and situations that do not conform to the expected 'norms' of our sickening society. They are all still playing the game by its rules. Everything is still all life and death, right and wrong, good and evil, black and white to them. They haven't truly learned the value of allowance, of acceptance, of freedom, of uniqueness, and of experience. They are all still too busy struggling to survive and thrive; still fighting to impose petty limitations on other people and on themselves. They are all, for want of a better term, "spiritual wannabes." Smarter, but none the wiser.

They may have listened to you, you see, but they have not yet truly understood.

Very true, I liked this part.







Neomatrix wrote:

So, here's a thought. How about this for your next book: You don't mention the frigging Illuminati. You don't mention the Reptilians. You don't talk about the matrix. No history lessons about how the bloodlines moved from Sumeria and Egypt, into Rome, then England, and finally across to America. You don't make so much as a passing comment about September 11th. And no more jokes about how stupid President Bush is (talk about stating the obvious!) If you could instead offer something truly unique, something that has the potential to really wake people up - not just to the global fascist agenda, but to themselves and their own programmed behavior - then I'll be on your side once again.

Amen to that!  That's SO true.



David Icke has his good points, and has served his purpose for many of us, like you state.  But the regurgitation of the same old same old, book after book after book does get tiresome.   

He tripped on Ayahuasca....now it's time to live what he learned in Brazil.  Instead of the negative gloom-and-doom headlines, let's talk about where do we go from here?  How do we make a difference?  What can we actually DO to effect change?   How do we live what we know, or "walk the walk" ?

Interestingly enough, a psychically gifted friend of mine shies away from David Icke, saying that she feels he's being used as a tool for the darkside.   I didn't agree or disagree with it when I heard that, was just like, "hmm.  Interesting!" 

David Icke is a good alarm clock, but once we're awake, it's time to move on.   We don't want to stagnate forever at the same level, going in endless cospiratorial circles.   That's why for me, I no longer visit his website either.  I wish him the best.  Hopefully he'll pull himself out of whatever's got a grip on him at the moment.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Yeah theres something about Icke isn't there? It's kind of like he wants to spread the truth but at the same time he's really depressing you lol . And the thing is he's not subtle enough in his approach, he's just like " the queen is a reptillian! " haha. He makes it sound so outlandish and unbeleivable ( I still have doubts on the queen shapeshifting deal smile  ). I mean you gotta be a little more subtle about these things when your telling them to people. He seems like a passionate guy, his heart and is in the right place and it's good that he's making people think about these things but his approach could use a little more finesse maybe?

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Well, I hope this doesn't turn into an Icke-bashing session, because I can't deny the impact he's had on my awakening process, and for that I'll always be grateful.  I just think that he's fallen into a rut, and is going in circles.

meerkat wrote:

Yeah theres something about Icke isn't there? It's kind of like he wants to spread the truth but at the same time he's really depressing you lol

Right.  That's because he doesn't offer solutions possibly.  A lot of conspiracy authors are that way, and it's why they burn out over time, as well as burning out their fan base.   I know, because people have emailed me about this very thing, the idea of writers who leave you feeling negative and drained, and don't offer up any sort of positive inspiration to counterbalance the punch they just gave you.


meerkat wrote:

And the thing is he's not subtle enough in his approach, he's just like " the queen is a reptillian! " haha. He makes it sound so outlandish and unbeleivable ( I still have doubts on the queen shapeshifting deal smile  ). I mean you gotta be a little more subtle about these things when your telling them to people. He seems like a passionate guy, his heart and is in the right place and it's good that he's making people think about these things but his approach could use a little more finesse maybe?

I totally disagree with you here, and this is why I was hoping this wouldn't turn into some thread where people all turn on Icke and begin nitpicking the petty stuff.  Neomatrix had valid points that were big issues.   But this?  I don't know.   To me, Icke's bluntness and "lack of finesse" are the least of his problems...........in fact, it's the very reason I put him so high on my list of authors that I admire.   I LOVE the fact that he's so bold and unafraid.   

More people should be like that.   In the ideal world, we wouldn't be cowards, fearful of "what will people THINK!"  Screw what people think!   State what you believe, and be loud, and unafraid, and most importantly...don't make apologies for it!   If people can't handle it, then that's their problem to deal with.   Seriously.   I will always admire David Icke for being that way.   Many may not agree with what he believes, but you HAVE to respect that he has the balls to say it, and be so open and non-apologetic for it.  It's a model / mirror for what humans should become.   No more fear.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: An open letter to David Icke.

lyra wrote:

Interestingly enough, a psychically gifted friend of mine shies away from David Icke, saying that she feels he's being used as a tool for the darkside.   I didn't agree or disagree with it when I heard that, was just like, "hmm.  Interesting!"

yeah, I subscribe to a Yahoogroups discussion list and there was a discussion about Icke not so long ago, a couple of women said a very similar thing, that they picked up very dark vibes from reading his material.

Personally I think there's definitely a lack of compatibility between what he actually writes and what I feel when I'm reading. For example he bangs on and on about infinite love yet I never feel any real warmth or love from his words. Whereas when I'm reading much of Stuie's material I often feel a lot of genuine warmth and love behind his words.

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It's too bad that when you give knowledge of the sources and methods of manipulation to too many people of a lower common denominator, it usually turns that source into a scapegoat for the abnegation of personal responsibility.

Icke is sensational, alarmist, entertaining, popular, bizarre, and accessible... that attracts to him a whole legion of irresponsible and crazy people. Funny, on my site I used to have a semi-serious satirical commentary on the Teletubbies show - that article got more hits, feedback, and demands for reposting after I deleted it than any other article because it had that bizarrely entertaining conspiratorial element that drew in a certain class of readers.

I wonder how much Icke is spreading irresponsibility, versus how much Icke is attracting people who are irresponsible to begin with. Victims and the paranoid are always looking for a new scapegoat, be it freemasons, reptilians, the matrix, etc... -- not that those don't exist, but rather it would be irresponsible and imbalanced if all blame is hitched upon the sources without addressing those personal and societal vulnerabilities that allow manipulation to continue. On the flip side, I think it would be equally imbalanced to ignore the sources and methods of manipulation to focus solely on getting yourself into shape...a healthy balance between the two may be more effective, but as I said it's unfortunate the irresponsible folks inevitably make bad examples out of one or the other.

Icke...a modern day Prometheus.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Lyra wrote:

I totally disagree with you here, and this is why I was hoping this wouldn't turn into some thread where people all turn on Icke and begin nitpicking the petty stuff.  Neomatrix had valid points that were big issues.   But this?  I don't know.   To me, Icke's bluntness and "lack of finesse" are the least of his problems...........in fact, it's the very reason I put him so high on my list of authors that I admire.   I LOVE the fact that he's so bold and unafraid.   

More people should be like that.   In the ideal world, we wouldn't be cowards, fearful of "what will people THINK!"  Screw what people think!   State what you believe, and be loud, and unafraid, and most importantly...don't make apologies for it!   If people can't handle it, then that's their problem to deal with.   Seriously.   I will always admire David Icke for being that way.   Many may not agree with what he believes, but you HAVE to respect that he has the balls to say it, and be so open and non-apologetic for it.  It's a model / mirror for what humans should become.   No more fear.

Yeah, I guess your right in the fact that he is couragous and unflinching in the face of so much ridicule, I got to give him credit for his amazing passionate stance.

I guess why I mentioned the reason for subtlety is that some people are still new to these ideas and concepts and if you just state off the bat that for example the queen is a shapeshifting reptilian that feeds on children wink or something rather, not only is this unconfirmable, it will surely alienate alot of people, sure, some people will continue reading but most people will roll, get angry or close the book.

It's not about being fearful of what people think, it's about easing people into this information without alienting them outright, I mean shapeshifting Royal Families is a very big burger to swallow if your new to all this! lol

I'm all for Icke spreading this information and getting people to acclimatize to these ideas, but I think he would reach even more people if he somehow worded it in a slightly more accesible way.

I agree with you aya, with Stewie theres a different vibe, a really friendly, warm vibe smile

Re: An open letter to David Icke.

montalk wrote:

Funny, on my site I used to have a semi-serious satirical commentary on the Teletubbies show - that article got more hits, feedback, and demands for reposting after I deleted it than any other article because it had that bizarrely entertaining conspiratorial element that drew in a certain class of readers.

OT: You mean about the Time-Travelling Nazi Jehovahs?

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Re: An open letter to David Icke.

Thanks for your replies, all.

It definitely wasn't my intention to start a David Icke bashing thread. In fact, if you read between the lines of my original post a little, you might get the impression that this letter - although specifically addressed to Icke - is actually more targeted at those who folks who actively (or naively?) follow his work rather than at the man himself. Sure I'm frustrated with David for singing from the exact same songsheet for the last decade or more, but I'm perhaps more frustrated with the masses of people who now enjoy regularly exercising their grey matter on the current conspiracy-theory-of-the-day. It seems that many of them are of the opinion that - once they've learned to spot the mechanics of the Game on third density Earth - that they are now fully 'awakened' souls. They have taken a peek behind the curtain of reality, and seen the wizard hard at work casting his spells and illusions.

But rather than taking this information and making good use of it in actively changing their worldview, and thus changing themselves and their pre-programmed points of view along with it, they seem to enjoy collectively sitting on their asses, watching the wizard hard at work, triumphantly shouting "A-ha!" when they once again figure out just how the wizard pulled that rabbit out of his hat. "That rabbit was up his sleeve all along! A-ha! Can't fool me again - I'm enlightened!"

There is, you see, a link between that which we've labelled "conspiracy theory", and that which we call "spirituality". Without a shred of spiritual maturity to hold onto, they have no way of knowing how to deal with the information that is being presented to them; no way of integrating it in a meaningful way. And so instead it has simply become cool and trendy to collect every last factoid and figure, eagerly awaiting the next major world event - be it illegally operated wars, f*cking big hurricanes hitting major cities, airplanes crashing into towers, crooked politicians getting caught with their pants down (sometimes literally), etc, etc - just so that they can indulge in their now favorite pastime of third density Clue (or Cluedo, as we Brits call it.) "Hey, I got this one! It was George W. Bush, with the weapons of mass destruction, in Iraq!" "No, wait! It was the Illuminati, with the satanic rituals to Moloch, in Bohemian Grove!" "Nah, it wasn't! It was the Reptilians, with the loosh harvesting machines, in the lower astral planes!"

One can only assume the reason that conspiracy theory has become so popular in today's society is simply because... well... it makes life here on planet Earth seem bloody interesting again. Suddenly life isn't just about working the 9-5, then going home for tea and biscuits. Now there's this big fat f*cking conspiracy behind it all, and if you don't figure it all out in time the nasty, evil lizards will eat your soul! The conspiracy has become more sensational than the latest Hollywood blockbuster, and they can't wait for each new installment to come along. They've become conspiracy junkies.

Please. I've had quite enough already. There ain't nothing down here that's a threat to you other than the depths of your own self-imposed ignorance. And I'm not talking here about an ignorance of this now overly grandiose conspiracy. I'm talking here about the only ignorance that matters: the ignorance of your own true self. There can be no single question of more import to any self-aware entity than that of: who am I, really? Anything else can rapidly become a powerful distraction from this most worthwhile of pursuits. Thinking about conspiracies is easy; thinking about yourself, and periodically re-evaluating each and every one of the beliefs that you hold dear, is anything but.

Perhaps Icke will surprise me in his next book. Perhaps, right there on page one, it'll read something like the following: "Before you read anything contained within these pages, please close this book, go find a nice quiet place to sit down, then close your eyes and have a good hard think about yourself, about your opinions and beliefs, and about your place within the world. Because anything I have written here in these hundreds of pages is of infinitely less importance than simply making the time once in a while to do just that. You'll get more benefit out of fifteen minutes of introspection than fifteen hours sat reading my material. So go and do it now. What are you waiting for? Go!"

But somehow, I expect I won't be surprised, because Icke himself is one of the biggest conspiracy junkies out there. The reason the Darksiders love to use him is because he's a rampant Lightsider with an agenda of his own to push. A typical Icke lecture runs something like: "Conspiracy, conspiracy, Illuminati, reptilians, aliens, conspiracy, the microchip, George Bush, George Orwell, Tony Blair, 9/11, Trilateral Commission, the matrix, conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy. Oh and by the way, infinite love is the only truth and everything else is just an illusion. Thank you and goodnight."

Whoa! Hold on a second there. Could you just expand a little bit on that last segment there? You know, the bit about love, truth, and illusion? Yeah, it seems to be implying - at least to me at any rate - that all of this crap that you've just spent hours talking about is really just illusory nonsense. So how about we talk about this infinite love concept a little bit more then, eh? Oh, what's that? You can't, because you really don't have a f*cking clue about it? Your research hasn't quite extended that far just yet? Well then, you give me a call when you have the time to get around to it. And yes, I know that you did Ayahuasca Mr. Icke, but that hasn't made you any more enlightened, has it? There are no shortcuts to spiritual maturity, I'm sorry to say.

Oh, look on the news, some terrorists have detonated a bomb in the center of London again. Sigh, when will we ever learn, eh Mr. Icke? Mr. Icke?? Mr. Icke???

Shit, where did he go?

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

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i just have a book which is newly translated to turkish with the name; "the new charlatans". it's originally in french and the original name is "les nouveaux imposteurs". you may check it at http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/2 … 21-1706820 (it's in french). as a summary the book says "after 9/11 conspiracy theories became so popular that it nearly became a fashion to follow them. once the conspiracy theories belonged to far right wing but now everybody has his/her own conspiracy. some celebrities and journalists like michael moore talk about these in mainstream. in short, conspiracy sells nowadays. but all these conspiracies have the potential of a new conspiracy/manipulation game going on".

i too feel this new "trend" is a new (and skilfull) play of the wizard behind the curtain -as neomatrix wrote. i'll second his pharagraph:


"But rather than taking this information and making good use of it in actively changing their worldview, and thus changing themselves and their pre-programmed points of view along with it, they seem to enjoy collectively sitting on their asses, watching the wizard hard at work, triumphantly shouting "A-ha!" when they once again figure out just how the wizard pulled that rabbit out of his hat. "That rabbit was up his sleeve all along! A-ha! Can't fool me again - I'm enlightened!"


nothing more to add!

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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meerkat wrote:

I guess why I mentioned the reason for subtlety is that some people are still new to these ideas and concepts and if you just state off the bat that for example the queen is a shapeshifting reptilian that feeds on children wink or something rather, not only is this unconfirmable, it will surely alienate alot of people, sure, some people will continue reading but most people will roll, get angry or close the book.

It's not about being fearful of what people think, it's about easing people into this information without alienting them outright, I mean shapeshifting Royal Families is a very big burger to swallow if your new to all this! lol

Well, that's their problem then, isn't it?  Think about it.  If that's too much for them, and it turns them off, then let them close the book and walk away.

You can't please everybody.

Trying to tone it down to appease the "sensitive" types, (which is what would make you happy) means the people with thick skins lose out because they're not receiving straight forward, in your face information that they're looking for.

Blaring from the rooftops with reckless abandon pleases the people who can handle it, but scares off the sensitive people.

So you really can't win then.  So in the end, just be true to yourself.  For David Icke, blaring from the rooftops was what was true to him.  Others like to tip toe, and sugar coat, and whisper while simultaneously flinching and ducking.  That's what's right for them.   If you spend all of your time trying to please everybody so nobody gets alienated you'll just go in circles and accomplish nothing.   Somebody's always going to be unhappy no matter what you do, that's just the nature of life.  So we have to do what we're guided to do, what would please *us.*
 

Aprogas wrote:
montalk wrote:

Funny, on my site I used to have a semi-serious satirical commentary on the Teletubbies show - that article got more hits, feedback, and demands for reposting after I deleted it than any other article because it had that bizarrely entertaining conspiratorial element that drew in a certain class of readers.

OT: You mean about the Time-Travelling Nazi Jehovahs?

No, he meant the one about the Teletubbies.


Neomatrix - That was a good follow-up post, with a lot of great insight.  Thanks for posting that.  smile  It would make a really good article, actually. Just a suggestion.   Maybe something that combines both your open letter to David as well as your second post, for further elaboration?  I don't know, just an idea.   (hint hint!)  I really think it's good though, and there are a lot of us getting to this point right now.  I wrote my little article about a nearly related concept, which is on the NR front page, which was in turn picked up by that Tim Boucher dude, and posted on his blog because he himself had recently been saying the same things.  But this has become an issue of sorts for those who have been following the conspiracy research for years.   We've all burned ourselves out, and have come to see how much of it is full of folly;  chasing our own tails, talking the talk but not walking the walk, and all that.   There are so many people out there who are stuck, in a perpetual state of stagnation right now in terms of conspiracy research.  They're behaving like you outlined in your last post.  A wake up call is always a good thing, which is what your 2 posts are all about.   So, just an idea.  You write REALLY well, and maybe an article is in order.  smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: An open letter to David Icke.

Great thread!