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Topic: McKenna: The Oversoul as Saucer

Just found this, though tit was worthy of inclusion here. 

http://users.lycaeum.org/~sputnik/mckenna/oversoul.html

Excerpts from the TalkingBook version of Terence McKenna's "True Hallucinations." This chapter was not included in the printed edition.

Terence McKenna wrote:

Chapter 20: The Oversoul as Saucer.

There is building in global society an increasingly intense expectation of the intervention into human history by UFOs. It is very similar in tone to the buildup of messianic expectation in the Hellenistic world in the several centuries preceding the birth of Christ. The leaders of Roman society may have been caught off guard by the appearance of Christ, but they had no one to blame but themselves since milllions of people in the ancient world were expectantly awaiting some kind of messiah. So today, science and govenment koo-koo the idea of world contact with the UFOs, while the contact cults grow ever larger and more insistent that contact is about to occur.

Imagine, therefore, what you may never have seriously imagined before. Imagine what would happen if the UFOs were to appear. Imagine a spaceship of the Close Encounters of the Third Kind variety suddenly appearing in orbit around the Earth. Television and mass media would carry its image to every man, woman and child on the planet. Governments would be paralyzed. Science would be helpless to explain where it came from or how it got here. Millenarian hysteria would break out everywhere. The UFO would be hailed as savior and denounced as antichrist. The end of the world would appear imminent, and all this would occur before the contact was more than a visual image. Then the UFO would begin its revelation. Vast displays of beneficent power can be expected. Perhaps it would mysteriously neutralize all weapons of mass destruction, or it might use some sort of ray to cure all terrestrial cancer. Whatever it does one may be sure that its actions will be impressive. Its actions will convert millions to the UFO religion in a space of hours. Indeed, its actions will be specifically designed to overwhelm us with the reality of its power and presence. That will close the first stage of the revelation.

The second stage will be the teachings. Telepathically imparted, the specifics of the teachings cannot be anticipated, but they will urge love, voluntary simplicity, concern for one another, renunciation of war, perhaps renunciation of the destructive application of science. Whatever the teachings, the UFO will promise immense reward to those who follow them and dire consequences for those who do not. And the teachings will be delivered in so poetically perfect a way, so rich in understanding and appealing nuances that no one will doubt their origin in a being wise and good and immensely superior to ourselves. The delivery of the teachings will set the stage for the third and last and most shocking phase of the revelation: the departure.

The saucer, promising vaguely to return, will simply disappear. The entire process could take less than a month. If this seems a short time recall that the entire public career of Christ lasted only three years. Christ's career occured in a world where information could move no faster than a horse's gallup. Yet three years in one small part of the world was all that was necessary to launch a world religion that was vital for 1500 years. In a world of electronic communication the impact of the saucer's arrival, miracles, teaching and departure would be incalculable -- even if it all occured within a month. The saucer would leave in its wake a science utterly unable to provide any answers to the important questions concerning what had gone on. The vast majority of people would be fanatical converts to the teachings of the saucer, and any institution in opposition to those teachings could expect to be swept away almost overnight. The departure of the UFO would create a sense of abandonment, the agony of which could be expected to echo in the human psyche for centuries. The only panacea would be the religion of the saucer, the religion left behind. Science would be discredited and soon abandoned in favor of a thousand or more years of exegesis of the saucerian message. Is it not a familiar pattern in the light of our discussion of Christ and Rome?

What will never be said in the wake of such an event and so must be said now while there is still time for all of the above to occur and yet still be deception. A benign deception designed to save us from our advanced science and infantile ethics, but a deception nevertheless. The saucer, no matter how alien it appears, no matter how advanced its demonstrations of power, is not a vehicle from some other star system, it is the oversoul of humanity up to its oldest trick. If one knows this one can live through the revelation and the destruction of our scientific world and yet evade the immense power of this most powerful of all transference phenomenon and thereby maintain the integrity of one's own soul and spirit. Remember, I am not a debunker of flying saucers or a defender of science, I am a contactee, and this book is the painstakingly told story of my own involvement with the UFOs. I am one of those Vallee has pinpointed as being a carrier of ideas that pave the way for the scenario I have just described. Yet from it all I have learned that there is no religious revelation more satisfying than the hard won fruits of simple understanding. And there is no liberation to compare with freeing oneself from the illusions and delusions of the age in which one lives.

I reach these conclusions through my use and familiarity with psilocybin and other psychedelic drugs. They immerse their user in the world of the oversoul and make one privileged to at least a part of its mechanics of operation. They allow a private dialogue with the oversoul that is outside the context of the struggle between science and revelation that leaves no choice between the alienation of the rationalist and the tired formulas of the fanatic believer. Psychedelic drugs hold out the possibility of healing the breach between science and morality at the level of the individual, thus freeing one to evolve independent of the chaos and transformation the UFOs may soon bring to humanity.

Vallee's recent book Messengers of Deception vibrates with fear of the unconscious and alienation from the matrix of the larger psyche out of which rational thought has emerged. He fears the destruction of rationalism and scientific thought, yet never once does he mention the potential world wrecking crisis that the undirected development of science and technology has brought into being. He paints himself as an open-minded investigator of UFOs, yet never questions the motives of the retired and unnamed intelligence officers in which he places so much faith. It is impossible that the CIA is unaware of the social impact belief in UFOs is having? If they were unaware of it before then surely the recent writings of Vallee himself must have alerted them to the potential challenge UFO beliefs pose to orthodox institutions.

Based on Vallee's own ideas of an informational struggle between rational and irrational elements, how was he able to ignore the possibility that the mutilations which he is so eager to connect with UFOs are nothing more that a govenment agency's clumsy attempt to discredit the genuine UFO phenomenon? It is a typical method of the intelligence community to discredit human groups it opposes by faking atrocities in such a way that they appear to have been committed by the group whose discrediting is sought. Vallee gives examples of this but never suspects that some government agency might be using this technique to impede the transfer of loyalties from political institutions to the UFOs. He mentions the proximity of animal mutilations to high-security government installations but never suggests this might be because such installations are the source of these mutilations. Few UFO sightings involve confusion among witnesses over whether or not what they saw was a UFO or a helicopter. Yet in the animal mutilation cases many witnesses insist a helicopter was involved. Vallee is at pains to say no physical evidence of a UFO has ever been collected. Yet later he passes over the fact that a quite ordinary surgical scalpel was found at one cattle mutilation site.

It seems possible to me that some people in government have read Vallee and are familiar with his theories regarding UFOs as a factor introducing shifts in belief systems and institutional loyalties on a global scale. Without knowing what UFOs really are these persons and agencies have launched smokescreen operations designed to cast doubt on the motives and harmlessness of UFOs and so to retard or halt the shift of loyalties and beliefs now reaching epidemic proportions. I suspect that Vallee's book may be the opening shot in a media war whose purpose will be to connect the occult, right-wing fanatacism, and animal mutilations to the UFO, all in an effort to cast doubt on the vast power and benign intent of the saucer phenomenon.

Vallee's title Messengers of Deception bears a curious resemblance to J. Edgar Hoover's Masters of Deceit. There the boogey man was communism. In Vallee's book we are told the new boogey man is UFO phenomenon. Who chose the title for Vallee's book? Was it Vallee or the mysterious major who was so helpful in guiding Vallee down these new avenues of speculation? I believe that Vallee whether wittingly or unwittingly is himself a messenger of deception and has become the spearhead of a conscious effort to sow even deeper confusion in society regarding UFOs.

We might say it is an effort foredoomed to failure. The collective overmind of our species is the source of the UFO and its designs cannot be deflected or turned aside. Its viewpoint is one of thousands of years and its means visionary and charismatic belief systems which act to restore the balance between understanding of and reverence for the universe -- a message more powerful than any offered by the profane materialist societies that have grown so foolish as to imagine themselves the stewards of human destiny. Humanity alone and each of us individualy is the steward of human destiny. This is the real meaning of the UFOs and the experiment at La Chorrera.

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Great Piece....and how trippy is this...not but 2 minutes ago was I listening to a speech by him on mp3....

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Menses wrote:

Great Piece....and how trippy is this...not but 2 minutes ago was I listening to a speech by him on mp3....

It is great, isn't it?  I could really see the possibiity of that scenario.  Who knows, maybe this is what 12/21/2012 holds for us.

So what was he talking about in that speech you were listening to?

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Terrance wrote:

I reach these conclusions through my use and familiarity with psilocybin and other psychedelic drugs. They immerse their user in the world of the oversoul and make one privileged to at least a part of its mechanics of operation. They allow a private dialogue with the oversoul that is outside the context of the struggle between science and revelation.......

We might say it is an effort foredoomed to failure. The collective overmind of our species is the source of the UFO and its designs cannot be deflected or turned aside. Its viewpoint is one of thousands of years and its means visionary and charismatic belief systems which act to restore the balance between understanding of and reverence for the universe -- a message more powerful than any offered by the profane materialist societies that have grown so foolish as to imagine themselves the stewards of human destiny.

Humanity alone and each of us individualy is the steward of human destiny.

Bashar:

You Project Outward until You are able to Accept Inward.

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Wow, SiriArc, thanks for the correlating quote from Bashar, and the mushroom pic.  I love Bashar--the book Blueprint for Change is one of my most important sources.  I don't recall that specific quote you posted, but
there are many passages in that book where he says essentially the same thing; here's an example:

You are being rebounded from thing to thing, situation to situation, and bumped around because you are looking for the answers externally. They are always going to kick you back into the center of your being...because that's where the answers are!

On another subject, I also liked the point he makes in the chapter "Friends and Neighbors" that we are aliens to them just as much as they are to us:

...considered from other points of view, you yourselves are the aliens. Your world to many other civilizations is unknown, different, unusual, unique in many ways....You are an alien civilization to us; we are an alien civilization to you. But on other levels we are the same...it is because we are all the same type of soul, if you will, that we allow ourselves the opporunity to express ourselves in such a broad, diversified range of experience and life.

His point that we are all the "same type of soul" relates to what McKenna says about the Oversoul as Saucer...

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So, like, could it be that these evil abductions, and negative messages of this nature, are a smokescreen, to turn you off to the oversoul as it is manifesting these days?  Talk about throwing out the baby with the bathwater.  That's one huge mistake to make.  Reminds me of the whole Messiah thing, too, where if you don't accept him, you don't get into heaven.  Imagine dying, and then being denied into the afterlife, and coming up with excuses such as the Jesus story didn't make sense, it was an evil religion, and then being told that you weren't supposed to get caught up in all that crap, since your wisdom was supposed to show you that Christ meant embracing your soul, "the Messiah is the Messiah, dude, the oversoul, get over it", the story and religion were for those who couldn't get that but still needed a way in.  These guys are playing to the nth degree in their nuances here.

Just further solidifies my position that there's a much more subtle message here that most people are missing, and that a lot of this "truth" we're all talking about is just treasures on earth, so to speak, still as material as the bar scene, the picket fence, the nice cars, still liable to rust.  I think we're all being led astray, for the most part.  Of course there's all this UFO, abduction, conspiracy, NWO, etc. for all of the smarter people, and the potentially wiser people, to latch onto.  I'm thinking Matrix here, the last two films, where it's all a program to cover their asses, whoever "they" are.  Maybe "they" really are you, and you go exactly where you expect, unless you drop your expectations?

The question is, why would you be leading yourself into deception?  What are the true forces at work?

If I weren't so slow, I'd be able to figure it out, dammit.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.