1 (edited by montalk 2005-12-01 07:18:33)

Topic: Mushroom Cloud in Folded $2 Bill

Hello. While there's a thread about folded U.S. paper currency in the Conspiracy forum,
it seems that the exposure has disappeared due to inane and off-topic banter... oh well.

What I wish to discuss in *this* thread is the appearance of a folded U.S. two dollar bill.
Millions of people have seen the symbolism embedded within the other denominations...

If you don't see a mushroom cloud in the following image, then this thread isn't for you:

http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload9/TWO-TOP1.png

Notice the trademark inward curling at the top of each side? I sure hope so, because it's
clearly there. Notice the middle column? Maybe the following image will help you notice:

http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload5/TWO-TOP2.png

In the above image, I have replaced the left half with a mirrored copy of the right half...
While other "things" also appear in this version of a folded $2 bill, the cloud is absolutely
there for anyone to see. The middle column is now easily discernable as the cloud shaft.
But anyone can duplicate my "original" image - just snag a $2 bill from a bank or store!!

Compare the folded $2 image to the following real picture of an actual mushroom cloud:

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050725/gallery/cellage_zoom.jpg

It must be stated that ANY "SUFFICIENT" EXPLOSION can result in a mushroom cloud....
For further reference, the Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom_cloud

2 (edited by Xenopope 2005-11-28 09:40:16)

Re: Mushroom Cloud in Folded $2 Bill

I actually couldn't see the mushroom cloud in the other thread until somebody said it. It's still a tiny bit of a stretch for me to call it a mushroom cloud but what is interesting to me is that if it is a mushroom cloud, then that cloud is made up of people - but not just anybody but those important historical figures!

HOWEVER . . .

Human Being wrote:

http://files.upl.silentwhisper.net/upload5/TWO-TOP2.png

This one cannot be called a mushroom cloud as it is clearly Jar-Jar Binks with a long neck. X)

I would have to say that, given the course of events played out on our globe lately, unfortunately a nuclear attack does not seem impossible to achieve for those in control.

I am as is Void.

3 (edited by montalk 2005-12-01 07:20:46)

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To be honest, I don't see what the big deal is either.   I understand that the image looks like a mushroom cloud..........but now what?

What do you do with this information???

This was precisely the sort of thing that led me to become disgruntled with the Goro forum.   All these threads with people going in circles about stuff that we can do nothing with.  Analyzing in circles a lot of dead-end information, as I call it.   At least with Goro's material we can do something with it.  We can learn the signs, and how to apply it to reality to see / predict what's going to happen next, and when and where.   But what can you do with this "revelation", as you term it?   How does it help you....us.....in the every day real world?    How can it be applied?  Most importantly, What's the next step?

You're requesting an "earnest" discussion (using a REALLY bad attitude btw) about a topic that's for the most part, useless.

I tend to think that unless you can show people how this is something useful, and how they can take this info. and apply it in the real world, then you're probably not going to get the response you're demanding.

But that's just my opinion.  Maybe others feel differently.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Looks like some fear coming through. Fear results in aggression. I'll be honest. It does produce a bit of reaction with me. But, isn't that expected result? Produce fear= control+power, seemingly. And isn't that also what they want. = seven sentences.;)

" Then it was, then again it will be. And though the course may change sometimes rivers always reach the sea." Robert Plant

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thook,

Since I am "worried" that noone wants to talk about what a folded $2 could imply,
I have indeed decided that some assertiveness and some brashness is in order...

I want the "theory" presented to receive attention, which didn't happen in the other thread.
Yes, I am being impatient, but I'm prepared to deal with the consequences of my "haste"...

Don't try psychological games, the effort will only be wasted. Talk about the folded $2 bill if interested.
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lyra,

I'm not that concerned with being "Mr. Nice Guy" on message boards anymore.
That doesn't mean I'm trying to be "Mr. Rude Guy". It just means that I want to
cut through what I consider a distraction to my own efforts. I don't wanna chat.
My goal is to discuss relevant knowledge with others from similar perspectives.
Others who, like myself, see relevancy in many things that most people don't...
I was hoping that people would ask questions which contribute to the dialogue.

You ask, "but now what? What do you do with this information???"

I have chosen to initiate a dialogue with people here regarding this information.

You said, "I tend to think that unless you can show people how this is something useful,
and how they can take this info. and apply it in the real world,  then you're probably not
going to get the response you're demanding."

Okay, on that point I haven't yet "said my piece" thoroughly enough. I'm sorry.
However - I thought that the "backstory" of the WTC imagery on folded US bills
was enough information to highlight the potential importance of a folded $2 bill.
IF the imagery regarding WTC is genuinely an instance of TPTB foreknowledge,
then it should logically follow that any differing imagery is another instance, no?
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Symbolism is a very dynamic paradigm.

For example, the mushroom cloud may signify the "nuclear option" being talked
about regarding judicial nominee filibustering. While the symbolism on the other
bills, with respect to WTC/911, is visual and direct, it can't be assumed that this
differing symbolism's also visual and direct. Then again, a direct visual instance
of mushroom cloud foreknowledge may very well be the intent of the symbol....

Xenopope, your comment is exactly the type I was hoping would be shared. :-D
The fact that historic figures from the U.S. government are utilized in this "art",
does suggest that the U.S. government is going to be affected by the "cloud"....

I'm interested in researching this angle, to derive a list of names and offices, of
the historic figures "composing" the symbolism. It would be awesome if another
person wanted to do that as well. Regardless, I see that I should take the lead,
as "suggested" by Lyra. I'll post more thoughts later for everyone to analyze....
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I'd like to humbly state that it's my passion for knowledge and understanding that has
compelled me to modify my usual "laid-back" tone for one that isn't so easy to ignore.
I'm just some guy living in the U.S. who hopes that one day, there are no more "PTB".

6 (edited by impatiens 2005-11-28 12:47:22)

Re: Mushroom Cloud in Folded $2 Bill

Ola Senor Chimp,

I understand that the $2 bill is no longer in circulation. I'm not American, so I can't be sure. However, if that is the case, could this then imply that the "mushroom cloud", "nuclear options" are off the table, consigned to history?

Btw, in the other thread, where you first posted it I actually saw a double helix in the first image, and no mushroom cloud. fwiw.

amj

7 (edited by montalk 2005-12-01 07:23:59)

Re: Mushroom Cloud in Folded $2 Bill

Just a quick note, since I've begun my research...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Trumbull
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … umbull.jpg

John Trumbull is the painter of the painting which the back
of the $2 bill depicts. His tomb is beneath the..... (get this)
Yale University Art Gallery. And - he died at the age of 88.

Yale's a "red flag" because it's home to "Skull and Bones".
88 is both symbolically and numerically significant as well.
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impatiens, it's hard to get used to that as your name, AMJ!

I also can see something like a helix, but honestly I see a
mushroom cloud way more easily. It's the inward curls....
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Re: Mushroom Cloud in Folded $2 Bill

I can take designer toilet paper and fold it in as many ways as I want and attained some sort of picture.  Then I can try to find some hidden meaning because as you and I know some very important people are sending us messages over toilet people.  HB, why not drop the attitude and honestly move on to things of real value.  If folding the $2 bill has some meaning and you know it then produce it..................Then we will comment.  In the meantime it means nothing to me.

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whywhywhy wrote:

{grossly inaccurate metaphor omitted}

If folding the $2 bill has some meaning and you know it then produce it..................Then we will comment.
In the meantime it means nothing to me.

Are you ignoring everything I said in this thread? If not, then maybe you should.
Or, how about finding a topic that means something to you, like dream analysis?

Why is it that in some threads, it's "okay" to theorize, but in others it is "wrong"?
In order for some to consider my theory valid, I have to prove it to their liking??
Let me guess - you think Bin Laden planned and executed the Sept. 11 attacks??

Talking about folded U.S. currency seems too "woo-woo" for some here, but talk
of Greys, Pole Shifts, and the like are more acceptable? I've read some threads,
here at NR, which easily validate this thread. Like I said, if you don't want to talk
about what a folded $2 bill could mean, find another thread to contribute to. QED

10 (edited by lyra 2005-11-28 17:18:26)

Re: Mushroom Cloud in Folded $2 Bill

Human Being wrote:

Are you ignoring everything I said in this thread?

Just because he concluded "What's the point?"  doesn't mean he didn't read what you had to say. 

Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they didn't hear you.   


Human Being wrote:

If not, then maybe you should.

Why "should" he?    ?



Human Being wrote:

Why is it that in some threads, it's "okay" to theorize, but in others it is "wrong"? ......... Talking about folded U.S. currency seems too "woo-woo" for some here, but talk
of Greys, Pole Shifts, and the like are more acceptable?

You couldn't have missed the point more if you tried!   

You think that anybody here is saying that it's "not okay" to theorize, or that it's "wrong" ?  That it's somehow better to discuss the "woo woo" stuff than this?    No.  People just don't get what your point is.   You present us with a folded 2 dollar bill.........while repeatedly demanding that we respond (if you think I'm being too "melodramatic" then I'll gladly pull quotes from both threads where you repeatedly insist, in bolded capital letters, AND with mad faces, that we respond to you) toss around a bunch of arrogant insults............then can't understand when people don't care, don't want to engage you in dialogue, and are rude right back to you?

HB, go back and read your own words.  If you can't understand by now after reading my previous post why you've gotten the reaction you've gotten (or LACK of reaction, from all the posters who've chosen to pass this thread by) then I don't know what to tell you.  Seriously.   Get a clue, dude.  You actually come across as being a little bit loopy in your repeated insistance that SOMEBODY RESPOND TO YOU!  " mad "  Truly....chill out.   You've been rude, insulting, arrogant and nasty from the getgo.   What happened to you?   I used to dig you over on the Goro forum.  Something went horribly awry between then and now.   You were never like this over there.   


Human Being wrote:

In order for some to consider my theory valid, I have to prove it to their liking??

Let me guess - you think Bin Laden planned and executed the Sept. 11 attacks??

That's bad logic.  You're putting words in whywhywhy's mouth.  Like I said, chill out.    Maybe you have personal problems brewing off the board and it's spilling over here, I don't know.   But that's no reason to take it out on people and attack them.   Yes, whywhywhy was snippy to you...but it was based on the way you started off right from the start, talking down to people and being all crazy.  I just don't get this edgy, obsessive, loopy hostility.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: Mushroom Cloud in Folded $2 Bill

impatiens wrote:

I understand that the $2 bill is no longer in circulation.

Ahhh! But, it is! Unless I've been duped. A few months ago a girl paid for some grocery items with three $2 bills. The spooky thing is (tongue in cheek) someone said later that $2 bills were bad luck. Hmmm!

" Then it was, then again it will be. And though the course may change sometimes rivers always reach the sea." Robert Plant

Re: Mushroom Cloud in Folded $2 Bill

Human Being wrote:

thook,

Since I am "worried" that noone wants to talk about what a folded $2 could imply,
I have indeed decided that some assertiveness and some brashness is in order...

I want the "theory" presented to receive attention, which didn't happen in the other thread.
Yes, I am being impatient, but I'm prepared to deal with the consequences of my "haste"...

Don't try psychological games, the effort will only be wasted. Talk about the folded $2 bill if interested.

Yes, I see your point and understand your intolerance and impatience. Try to understand that I've been so serious and paranoid for so long I'm burned out. Maybe even too complacent and so tired of the B.S. the seeming PTB keep dishing out I am just not astonished at your finding. But, I will comment how I choose. I am a member of this forum as well. Me an HB, too!

" Then it was, then again it will be. And though the course may change sometimes rivers always reach the sea." Robert Plant

13 (edited by lyra 2005-11-28 18:12:18)

Re: Mushroom Cloud in Folded $2 Bill

ps to my previous post...

Here's a thought I'll leave you with Human Being before I leave this thread, (for real, I promise). And  I think this sums up why people don't care: (and btw, I'm not saying that I don't believe that the picture is what you say it is.)  But if this doesn't hammer the point home about where we're coming from, then I guess nothing will.   

But say that "they" really did intend to leave embedded clues about their neferious activities within our money.  Say you're totally right and are onto something.   You've discovered proof, in the form of picture clues that shows stuff gettin' blowed up.

Now what?

Is there a location given for where this is supposed to go down?  A date?   A time?

No?

Then what are we supposed to do in the meantime?   Put our lives on hold because something *might* be blown up somewhere, sometime, maybe?

Think about it.

They supposedly found evidence in our folded money showing the WTCs on fire, with plumes of smoke.  It looked convincing to me alright.   I was nodding my head when I saw it.

But it was a little late, doncha think?  A little after the fact?   Nobody noticed the pics of the WTC on fire until after 9/11.   That's when some guy who was bored at work, or sitting on a bench at the bus stop, or lounging on a couch at his friend's house smoking a fatty started playing around with the money in his pocket, folding it this way and that, and finally noticed....hey.....whoa man...check it out!

But really, some good it did when it was only noticed afterwards.

And even if somebody had noticed beforehand and warned the world..........what were we all supposed to do with no dates and times???   How could it have POSSIBLY changed ANYTHING?   All those people would still have gotten on all 4 planes that day at Logan International Airport.  All those people would still have gotten on the subways to their job at the WTC in lower Manhatten.  Without a date and time, it couldn't change anything.

So now we have more evidence of more stuff gettin' blowed up.............but no indicators of what the intended target might be.   No dates, times, locations, nothing, nada.

Are you saying that we need to live in fear because of this?   We don't get what you want from us.  What are you suggesting we do?   Where are the solutions?   What's the next step?

If there are no dates, times, or location indicators, and you have no solutions, then...what's the point?  Other than food for the moon?  And btw.........guess what people.................we are entering the New Moon window, right now, as I type this!   Yes, let's hear it for the hyperdimensional feeders who like to get us all worked up, twice a month like clockwork!  It never fails!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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thook wrote:
impatiens wrote:

I understand that the $2 bill is no longer in circulation.

Ahhh! But, it is! Unless I've been duped. A few months ago a girl paid for some grocery items with three $2 bills. The spooky thing is (tongue in cheek) someone said later that $2 bills were bad luck. Hmmm!

When I said "no longer in circulation" I meant no longer being printed, like in Canada. Wrong word choice.  Btw, the $2 bill was phased out here several years ago, replaced with a $2 coin. But $2 bills will circulate now and then, along with other older notes that have be re-designed.

Anyhow, a quick google search led to this site and some info on this unusual note:

http://www.answers.com/topic/u-s-two-dollar-bill

The United States two dollar bill ($2) is a denomination of U.S. currency. In spite of its relatively low value, the two dollar banknote is one of the most rarely-seen denominations of U.S. currency. This is due to the low production of the note; approximately .5% of all U.S. notes produced are $2 bills. Because of its rarity, many Americans remain remarkably superstitious about spending it, which further decreases its circulation. It is so rare that not very many cash registers and money-handling machinery (such as vending machines) accommodate it. Many Americans have never come in possession of one.

Two dollar bills are delivered by Federal Reserve Banks in green straps.


History
The United States government first officially issued the $2 bill in July of 1862 as an United States Note with a portrait of Alexander Hamilton. The next issue of the $2 United States Note in 1869 featured the now familiar portrait of Thomas Jefferson painted by American artist Gilbert Stuart. The large-sized (7.375" x 3.125") $2 bill was also issued as a Silver Certificate, Federal Reserve Bank Note, Treasury or Coin Note, and as a National Bank Note.

In 1929, when all U.S. currency was changed to its current size (6.125" x 2.625"), the $2 bill was kept as a United States Note. Notes were issued in series of 1928, 1953, and 1963. The front of the bill featured a cropped version of Thomas Jefferson's portrait that had been on previous $2 bills. The back of the bill featured Jefferson's home, the Monticello. These $2 bills were officially discontinued in August of 1966.

In 1976, the Treasury Department reintroduced the bill as a cost-saving measure (http://wcdc42.com/2dollar/economic_reviews.html#cost). As part of the United States Bicentennial celebration, the note was redesigned and issued as a Federal Reserve Note. The front featured the same portrait of Jefferson, a green instead of red seal and serial numbers, and the picture of Monticello on the back was replaced with an engraved rendition of John Trumbull's painting, "The Signing of the Declaration of Independence". First day issues of the new bicentennial $2 bills could be taken to a post office and stamped with the date April 13, 1976. In all, 590,720,000 notes from the 1976 series were printed. The bills proved extremely unpopular and printing was stopped.

Many give as a reason for its failure that its value is redundant, being only twice the value of the $1. However, the fact that the $2 bill (and later coin) succeeded in Canada offers a potential counterpoint to this. Also, one could have used the redundancy argument to predict that the dime (being worth two nickels) and the $10 (being worth two $5 bills) would likewise be failures, but this has not been the case. Other, more colorful, stories about the reasons for its failure exist (http://www.snopes.com/business/money/twodollar.asp).

In 1996 and 1997, 153,600,000 bills were printed [1] (http://www.moneyfactory.com/section.cfm/2/51) as Series 1995 with the signatures of Robert Rubin and Mary Ellen Withrow. In 2004, 121,600,000 of the newest $2 bills, Series 2003, were printed bearing the signatures of John W. Snow and Rosario Marin. Both of these issues have the same design as the Series 1976 $2 bill.

The Two-Dollar Bill in American Consciousness
Urban legends

Whether or not the following stories are true is unknown.

An amusing and perhaps apocryphal story regarding two dollar bills being paid to military servicemen has circulated intermittently in American public consciousness over the years. This story being constantly retold reflects how some Americans view the two dollar bill.

The basic premise is as follows: a coastal town somewhere has a business district that, while successful financially, is plagued by uncouth Navy servicemen on shore leave. They come in, make a ruckus, get drunk, and generally upset the town's otherwise quiet atmosphere. The locals, who do not appreciate the intrusion, finally get together and lodge a formal complaint with the Navy.

The Navy, in response, decides to teach the arrogant town a lesson in economics and pays a substantial portion of its servicemen's following months' salary in two dollar bills. When the sailors subsequently descend on the town to spend their wages, the local businesses are inundated with two dollar bills; in fact, they realize that they have more two dollar bills than anything else, which certainly grabs their attention.

The message, of course, is that the Navy servicemen on shore leave might very well be boorish and intrusive, but the money they spend represents the livelihood of the store owners responsible for the letter of complaint. Needless to say, they were more patient with the sailors thenceforth.

The fact that this tactic worked, of course, is entirely a result of the two dollar bill's rarity. One dollar bills or five dollar bills would not have been so readily noticed. Two dollar bills drive the point home; there is no way they can be ignored, given that they are almost never seen.

A different story is documented on Snopes (http://www.snopes.com/business/money/tacobell.asp). In the story, a Taco Bell patron attempts to pay for a burrito with a two dollar bill. The cashier, and the store manager all refuse to accept it as valid US currency thinking there is no such thing a as a $2 bill. When the patron insists on paying with it, they call security who then explains that $2 bills are valid US currency.

Documented Stories
Just recently, in February of 2005, [2] (http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid= … amp;tid=98) an annoyed patron of Best Buy was attempting to pay for an electronics installation that had been originally promised to be free, with 57 $2 bills. The cashier refused to accept them and marked them as counterfeit. The cashier then called the police and the patron was handcuffed until a Secret Service Agent arrived and straightened things out. The suspicion was supposedly caused by ink smearing on the bills which can happen sometimes. Source:Baltimore Sun (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/ … ;cset=true)

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How about a little review, since it seems I might as well "justify" why I started this thread.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/20bill.htm

Don't you just love Snopes? I like how "debunkeresque" they always sound. So official. smile
Note the specific verbiage used, note the lack of a complete set of folded currency images
and an utter disregard for any possibility that the symbolism isn't just some silly kids idea.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/b … arbill.htm

Ditto. That entails a very weak "debunking" of the "Folded Usa Currency Theory" or FUCT.

http://www.glennbeck.com/news/05172002.shtml

Oh wait - someone who isn't trying to "explain away" a statistical improbability. Hooray! smile
9/11 on the $5, the $10, the $20, the $50, and the $100 bill: IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER

Right here we must separate the wheat from the chaff. If you don't see how improbable a
"coincidence" that is, then stop right here, click "Index" at the top of your page, and seek
that which it is you are truly looking for. Because in this thread, I'm looking for symbolism
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Doesn't this make you wonder if even just a little what other Usa Currencies might "hide"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Note

Those are the "old" bills, several of which have been "retired". See more info about them:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_deno … ._currency

There are many more bills used throughout the past 150 years.... I mostly care about $2.
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http://www.moneyfactory.gov/document.cfm/18/96

The $2 Federal Reserve Note features an engraving of John Trumbull's painting "The Signing of the Declaration of Independence." The original Trumbull painting portrayed 47 people, 42 of whom were signers of the Declaration (there were 56 total). However, because of a limited amount of space on the note, 5 of 47 men in the painting were not included in the engraving.

Now I *really* wonder about the people on the back of the $2.... and those who are NOT.