31 (edited by Mriver 2005-08-29 15:31:54)

Re: colloidal silver

Buyer Beware -- Not All Home Colloidal Silver
Generators Are the Same

What's the difference between the home colloidal silver generators and those produced by other companies? Often, it's like the difference between night and day!


Colloidal Silver Fan:

What's the difference between the  colloidal bad silver generators sold by other companies, and a good one

1. The quality of the electronics and  components used in the generators,  The qualitY of the design and construction of the generators,  The therapeutic quality of the colloidal silver produced by the generators.


Big Difference  "Mud Makers" v/s Colloidal Silver Generators -
Battery-powered (DC) home colloidal silver generators have been derogatorily referred to as "mud makers" by some critics, and in many cases we believe this is rightly so. Why?  almost all of the others being sold today produce way too much electrical current.  The balance between the voltage and the milli-amperage, which determines the wattage. Although everyone else seems to be fixated solely on the voltage, achieving the proper wattage is the singular key to producing the highest quality colloidal silver possible with a battery powered home colloidal silver generator.

When the voltage and the milli-amperage are not strategically balanced to produce the proper wattage for generating therapeutic-quality colloidal silver, you get a generator which produces far too large of a particle size of silver ions - so large in fact, that they are therapeutically inferior. And because of this overly-large particle size, a danger of potentially toxic long-term accumulation in the body's tissues and organs is ever present. The human body simply cannot effectively process and use the overly large, sub-therapeutic silver ion particles produced by most battery operated home colloidal silver generators on the market today.Tthe strategic balance between the voltage and the milli-amperage, which is what determines the proper wattage is too high, and the silver ions being driven off the pure silver wires into the water are too large, the colloidal silver ions will quite rapidly become "scorched" by the electrical current, producing a muddy brown looking solution. Hence, the derogatory term "mud makers" has rightly been applied by critics to most battery powered home colloidal generator                                                                                                                                                                     Here are some clues to watch for when you want to distinguish a high quality home colloidal generator.

If the instructions  limit the running time of the generator to no longer than 15 or 20 minutes, then you are likely looking at a "mud maker." It only takes about 15 minutes to make a good, high-quality 15 ppm batch of colloidal silver. Therefore, 1 5 minutes is an optimal running time, However, there are times when you may want to produce a more highly concentrated batch of, say, 30 or even 40 ppm. The easiest way to do this, when you are using room temperature water, is to simply let your machine run for 30 to 40 minutes.  But you can't do this with most other home colloidal silver generators being sold today. Instead, their instructions strictly admonish you to never run your generator for more than 15 or 20 minutes at a time.

When a company insists on such a short running time for their generator, the company is in essence admitting three things: 1.) They are admitting that they know the electrical current is way too high, 2.) They are admitting that they know their generator producing an overly-large silver ion particle size, and 3.) They are admitting that they know the water will turn murky brown if you leave their generator running past the stat time limit. One such company even states in their instruction literature, "If you leave th generator running beyond the 15 minute time limit and the water turns brown, simply throw the solution out and start over again. " Our recommendation: Do not buy this type of generator, even if the price seems to good too be true.

If the instructions say you should never use saline solution to make your colloidal ~ silver, then you are    likely looking at a generator that is putting out an excessively high electrical current. There is only one reason to completely restrict the use of saline solution in making colloidal silver: It is to hide the fact that the generator in question is putting out way too much amperage in relation to voltage, and is therefore producing an overly large silver ion particle size. You see, when a generator's electrical current is not properly limited, the use of saline solution in the water will exacerbate the problems described above, speeding up the production of overly large silver ions, and turning the water murky brown even faster.
            They may even use a scare tactic, such as stating that the use of saline solution can produce a harmful form of colloidal silver. Of course, this is completely erroneous. For example, your blood and bodily fluids are 40% saline. So as soon as colloidal silver enters your body and mixes with your blood and bodily fluids, it becomes highly saline anyway. This is because the charged silver ions immediately attach themselves to your body's mineral salts. Of course, this causes no harm whatsoever. So the saline issue is a red herring designed to distract your attention from the true problem: the manufacturer has not spent the extra money necessary to properly balance the electrical current between the voltage, the milli-amperage and the wattage. In failing to do so, their machine is producing too much current to make a decent, therapeutic-quality colloidal silver. The silver ion particles will inevitably be too large for the body to process effectively. And there is a possibility that, if used regularly over long periods of time, it could result in an accumulation of silver in the body's tissues and organs. And although it is unlikely, eventually this could become toxic. Our recommendation: Do not buy this type of generator regardless of what a bargain it may seem to be. (As with anything in life, you get what you pay for!)
Big Difference #2: Controlled Particle Size Range - Although you do not
want to produce an overly large silver ion particle size, you do want to choose a generator that produces a stable colloid with a controlled range of particle sizes. Daryl Tichy, the famous independent colloidal silver researcher from Brigham Young University who has been written up in the newspapers recently for his work with colloidal silver v/s the AIDS virus and other serious pathogens, has demonstrated in his research that different pathogenic microorganisms respond to different silver ion particles sizes. You have probably read that colloidal silver has been shown to be effective against over 650 different pathogenic microorganisms. What you've likely not been told is that there is no single silver ion particle size that is effective against all 650 different pathogens.

For example, a pathogen that causes food poisoning may respond best to a silver ion particle size of, say, .04 microns. (That's four one-hundredths of a micron - a fraction of the size of the smallest human blood cell.) But a pathogen that causes pneumonia might respond best to a silver ion particle size of say, .0001 microns. (That's one ten-thousandth of a micron - ­many multiples smaller than the smallest human blood cell.) Therefore, colloidal silver generators that are touted to produce silver ions of a single~ particle size are simply not as effective as generators that can produce a controlled range of silver ion particle sizes. To produce a colloidal silver solution that can kill the vast majority of the 650 different pathogens colloidal silver has been demonstrated to be effective against, you must have a generator that produces a controlled range of silver ion particle sizes.

Be the Wave

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Thanks for posting that Mriver.  This is the model i bought last year, though not being much of a technical genius rather hoped it was a decent  one and it combined the Bob Beck blood zapper so seemed a good buy.

http://www.braintuner.com/silverpulse.htm

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Hey Doc It looks like a good one but I am not a authority on such matters I try to do a lot of research befor buying.  Happy Health

Be the Wave

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Interesting piece here about increasing the effectivness of colloidal silver by combining with hydrogen peroxide, HP apparantly ionizes
any silver particles left over in the  CS solution and makes it more bioavailable.
http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2.html

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Hey..

I made my own colloidal silver using the guide on http://www.silvermedicine.org/basicgenerator.html  <-- VERY easy.
Cost no more than $30US for the silver rods and equipment all up.  The rods are the expensive part.. like $20 then you just need 4 batteries and $2 worth of battery leads and alligator clips.  You can get all that stuff from an electronics shop like Dick Smiths.

I was sick for 4-5 days.. had a massive stomach virus, was getting weaker each day, I had diarrhea constantly and could barely eat food.. This was when I made colloidal silver for the first time.  I mega dosed on it and as soon as I drunk it wow.. talk about fast healing.  I improved rapidly over the next few hours, diarrhea disappeared completely, as did the stomach virus pains and everything else.  It felt like the colloidal silver just drowned out and swamped the virus.  I had another 250mL of colloidal silver the next day for safe measure.

Thats my only experience with colloidal silver.. and it was last week.  I signed up to tell you guys about it. Im amazed at how effective it is.  I'm not going to drink it everyday.. only when I'm sick, or maybe once a month smile

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Here's a really nice Deluxe C-Silver maker:

http://educate-yourself.org/cs/csgendesc.shtml


J.P.

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I've heard of people utilizing magnets in their colloidal silver generation process. I'm not sure of exactly the configuration, but I presently maintain my silver solution between 2 large curved NIB magnets (North pole facing inward). This appears to keep up the charge potency.

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AwakeKiwi wrote:

-think its safe if u dont over do it; ie: dont take ounces a day for 3 or more years
-never use tap water or salt or any additive
-always distilled water
-heating up the distilled water helps speed up the process
-dont do anything else to speed up the process
-dont leave it on for an hour or two, concentrated solution will clump too easily even if diluted later...
-A good batch will look almost completely clear, slightly yellowish if a high concentration
-if the solution is greyish then the water isnt distilled or has been contaminated, particles are too big, grey solutions are still good for use as topical, external burns, cuts, bruises etc, washing feet in etc...
-the best quality is transparent and clear, if u shine a lazer-pen through the glass or hold it up to a bright light u should be able to see the solution.
-never use metal for stirring or metal cups for storage
-dont use paper cups either, use only glass
-dont store next to sources of magnetism, ie: dont put your bottle of cs next to a speaker or tv/monitor etc...
-water takes on thoughts, dont think any doubting thoughts directed at the cs water, only positive thoughts on its effectiveness and safety.
-dont play heavy metal music near cs water, well just use common sense and dont play heavy metal for any reason!

Everyone interested in CS should be aware of the above.
Now, the one I didn't know is about magnetism - I store mine right next to a big 160W speaker. What does it do to CS?
On the other hand, I didn't notice any positive results from CS, I've been taking 2 spoons a day, held under tongue, for about 1-2 months.

39 (edited by Xenopope 2006-11-30 03:18:11)

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I would suggest colloidal silver to anyone with an 'uncurable' disease such as cancer, lupus, or AIDS.

http://www.all-natural.com/silver-1.html

http://www.colloidal-silver.com/article7.htm

The results of the...experiment show that exposure of HIV-1 to 1000 ppm of special formulation of silver protein for one hour at 37 degrees Centigrade completely eliminates infectious HIV-1 as measured by syncytia formation on SupT 1 cells...

Here we witness the alphabet mobster smear campaign:
WARNING - DISINFORMATION. READ AT YOUR OWN RISK. XD

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I've used the product from an earlier model of the colloidal silver generator from http://www.silverpuppy.com/page1b.html for about a year. If it's illeagal to recommend the stuff I'll say it WON'T quickly cure diarrea from tainted food and it WON'T knock out a bad flu in a day. lol If silver is such a horrible poison then why is Silvadene a standard treatment for burn patients?

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A thought... those "ancient batteries" that is, the metal rod in a sheath that has been theorized as some kind of battery. Anyone remember those?

Might they have been for something of the sort? CS treatment "back in the day"?

I think they were found in Iran and Egypt, but memory fails me. When I originally heard of them I had this intuitive but puzzling thought: "Electroplating?" Now reading on CS the thought makes more sense...

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The Ark of the Covenent was supposedley a large battery/electrical device hmm

I saw a Colloidal Silver scare tactic on "The News", in which an elderly woman's skin had completely turned, you guessed it, Silver! And she hadn't even been taking that much from what I remember. But the whole damn show seemed to be about the people who gave her looks because she looked "different", it was about social acceptence, not the "dangers of colloidal silver". She was only concerned about looking like a "freak".

It all looked like makeup to me, I don't know if your entire skin surface would turn silver from taking this stuff? Probably not, of course wink

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Cool... clubbers in europe would use it JUST for such an effect. cool

I'm going to try and find out this week how hard it is to get .9999 wire here in vicenza...

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Hmm... EPA is getting involved via "nanoparticle regulation" http://www.newstarget.com/021231.html which must mean that the stuff is safe and effective and very dangerous to somebody's profits.

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Answer to how hard it is: more than I thought. No such thing as Radio Shack, etc here and the goldsmith acquaintance I asked is no longer an independent artisan, he's working in a factory. I'll probably have to try and order from that american site. sad

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