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Re: LKJ--Podcast

kestrel wrote:

Why not, what's the point of having a forum if you can't discuss topics.  Are we all supposed to blindly believe what someone tells us?  Hmmm sounds like communism to me or perhaps the hive mentality of the greys!  Take me to your leader...  Personally I think the majority is missing the point.  You're all trying to find the truth through some kind of quick fix.  You are objectifying your reality by passing judgement on others via subjective measures which you falsely attribute as being "reality".  You see I can play the same game of talking in circles!  The reality is that you're not going to find the truth "out there" in some book or manual or even what someone is telling you and it's not going to be a function of what some alien force decides to do or not do.  The only real truth you are going to find resides within YOU but it's a journey that most aren't willing to take.  As I said before the greatest evil is EGO and my experience tells me that's what is driving the whole NEW AGE movement and forums like this.  It's all about believing that the universe ends with us, that we are GOD.  Well I hate to tell you but if you believe that you're in for a rude awakening.  Ask yourself how much good has come from the New Age of "awakening" as it's being called?  The whole idea is a joke as if only now people are waking up to "reality".  If anyone has done any research you'll find that there have always been great minds and people who knew better, they were usually the ones being ostracized and criticized for being too negative among other things.  The arrogance of this New Age movement is certainly going to bring about it's demise.

Montalk wrote:Bet your blood was rushing when you wrote that one.

Not at all, you're the one who made the foolish statement.  After all the question is legitimate, what are your credentials, what is your experience... saying everyone should be aware but stay positive is hardly any major revelation, I want peace on earth; so what, where's the wisdom?

You speak of experience, wisdom, etc...  All I see are instruction "manuals" as in the Gnosis post as if you can reduce life to a simple set of instructions.  I can guarantee you that Montalk and probably most people on this site DO NOT follow these instructions, I certainly wouldn't because they are ridiculous.

"To be inclined towards esoteric work by positive emotions and success,
one should be just, naturally pure, and not having been soiled by life."

Excuse me what exactly does this mean?  Show me anyone who fits this description ... " just, naturally pure and not having been soiled by life." as in a mindless zombie or perhaps an embryo?   Keep smoking whatever makes you happy!  This totally supports what I have been saying, we are being led away from our intuition and from what makes us human. 
It's human to make mistakes, it's human to sin, it's human to take responsibility, it's human to grow, to give up one's humanity is no longer human.  So what does that leave us with?  I guess you guys all think that the movie The Matrix is non-fiction and "sign of the times" as well.  Well when you guys find the red pill let me know.

The irony of all of this is that the NEW AGE movement doesn't provide any more legitimate answers than the religions which it decries.  In my assessment the NEW AGE movement is just a substitute for traditional religion yet with the pick and choose approach to where you can select whatever you think is your reality.  As far as I'm concerned "the aliens that I'm talking to are right while your aliens are wrong".  As in, well the Casseopians said this... well that's not what the Pleidians said.... After all there are what 13-15 different alien species identitifed by the military.  So which ones are the good guys? 

I suppose it's akin to playing some sort of game were you're progressing through various levels as in "stages".  So tell me what stage are you at, how many points have you acquired?  What a simplistic and distorted perspective of life!   Believe me I'm aware of the Michael Tsarions (NETER), Jordan Maxwells etc... of the world and I'm sure that one day we will find out that they were serving to confuse us all as well. I'm sure that you know that the best way to make any scam effective is to garnish a lie with some some truths. 

You've seen the movie Dark City... woopie.  I guess that speaks volumes about you supporting such garbage!  For being  someone espousing positivity it would seems rather hypocritical to support such "negative" work... as in paying to go see it.  Afterall, I'm sure you just think that it's just a reflection of the times (Metaphor) but perhaps it never occured to you that if everyone would reject the crap that the powers that be are trying to sell us, that this would help to empower us while removing the power from the negative "forces".  Now that's constructive, unlike spending hours comtemplating STSs, various dimensions, alien bases on the moon or mars etc...

Don't listen to what I have to say, after all, you have all the answers anyways.  I suppose it's never occured to you that perhaps it's you that "doesn't know any better."  I'm sure that you think that discussing the finer points of negativity vs. positivity and intuition, experience, observation, is going to accomplish some greater good.  If you objectively examine what you are saying you would realize that you are talking in circles and not much is to be gained from it.  Bottom line is what is the point?  As for me I'm heading for "Stage 10" ! tongue

By the way I already know the rebuttal,  you guys are going to think that I feel my belief system or conditioning is being threatened by NEW AGE rhetoric and how I'm not ready for the reality of stage #4... Nothing could be further from the truth, my belief system strengthens with each exposure to this conceptual delusional reality.   You see this is my version of awareness and positivity.  I realize that the agenda behind the NEW AGE is neither positive or fully aware!

Wake up sheep!:lol:

Okay there, Cliff!

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Re: LKJ--Podcast

Sowelu wrote:
kestrel wrote:

By the way I already know the rebuttal,  you guys are going to think that I feel my belief system or conditioning is being threatened by NEW AGE rhetoric and how I'm not ready for the reality of stage #4...

Actually, the only thing I thought was how defensive, false and arrogant you appear, and how you'll perhaps see that one day. Or not.

Best to you,
Sowelu

Actually what I was thinking was "kestrel"..."kestrel"..."kestrel" now what was that other forum where I recognize that screen name from?

Ugh if only every new gray hair didn't yank out a brain cell with it every damned time one grew out of the skull!

Nothing worse that knowing you know someone and not be able to put your memory finger on it!

Hmmph old age!



Move along folks, nothing to see here....

Re: LKJ--Podcast

kestrel wrote:

As I said before the greatest evil is EGO and my experience tells me that's what is driving the whole NEW AGE movement and forums like this.

Funny then that your entire post was just one huge ego-wank. It's only the ego that bitches and moans and argues and tries to put others down while making itself seem holier or more enlightened. Wake up yourself!

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Re: LKJ--Podcast

kestrel wrote:

As I said before the greatest evil is EGO and my experience tells me that's what is driving the whole NEW AGE movement and forums like this.

And yet making a sweeping statement like "the greatest evil is ego" smacks entirely of - you guessed it, folks - rampant egotism. What an evil person you are, kestrel! You should be entirely ashamed of yourself for even saying such a thing. Forty lashes for you! And no supper too! How could you make such a slip up, being that you're obviously so much wiser and better and enlightened than everyone else here on this forum?

But, I digress. Lemme ask you a question, mate. Why the feck do you even care what other people choose to believe? What's it to you? How come you have such a whopping big issue with the New Age movement? Don't tell me you were swindled by some self-professed New Age guru, and now feel that it's your sole duty to inform all and sundry on the Internet of the evils of the New Age?

Seriously, dude. Get over it. You might as well, cos you're right you know? The New Age movement IS just another belief system, and all belief systems are ultimately only ever going to be just that: someone's belief. Ain't no right or wrong about any it, cos most people in life like to believe in something. It gives them a sense of hope when confronting the absolute certainty of their own inevitable mortality. You can let them have that without getting your knickers all in a twist about it.

Can't you?

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe