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Re: Intent

Some might say that by doing this there's risk of externalizing your power and thereby becoming weak or adopting a victim mentality. I think that's only so if you become dependent on it rather than independent through it. It's like dialing the police, sometimes you need to, most of the times you don't because you have the power to take care of it yourself.

Here are a couple things I have requested from 4D STO:

1. wisdom, knowledge, and understanding
2. protection from STS abductions while I sleep
3. to initiate conscious contact with them

The first they are more than happy to assist. The second, maybe if it's warranted. The third takes a lengthy period of time to show you really mean it and have the maturity to handle it. Requests in this regard might be easier for Wanderers to receive answers to, perhaps as part of pre-incarnational agreements.

Although one time I requested that I meet an  STO Nordic in public and have a short chat with him, that the conversation would help me realize some new inspiring things, and that I would not know it was an STO Nordic after the fact. A couple weeks later through some synchronous arrangements I got to hear Richard Bach speak and chatted with him briefly after the talk, which in just a few lines of dialogue changed my perspective toward something grander and more positive than before. So my request came true, although I didn't specify whether it would be an incarnated STO being or a direct materialization from fourth. As far as my request went, everything manifested. It just wouldn't feel right for me to intend for something like that, which is why a request seems more respectful in that particular case.

The one thing you can always count on is your Self, your Higher Self... but I think that those of a more sophisticated spiritual stage of evolution would, because of their love of service and balance, help out those who request a bit of assistance if it brings them toward balance. So requesting can't hurt if you truly feel you need it. I can fend off aliens during the day, but when I'm unconscious while sleeping only a few things can do that job well: thoughtforms/intents I create before going to sleep, or other entities who don't mind standing guard if the request is legitimate. I only employ the latter when the situation gets serious, like asking the cops to step up patrol in your neighborhood.

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Through True Intention is the only way that i have ever accomplished anything.

The degree of success in my intentions is directly proporational to my ability to in-Spire my desire.

My younger brother is having a very hard time finding himself in this life. I stopped in my entry way and closed my eyes, pulling the universe through me to a point between my hands with an image of my brother finding purpose and awakening to the beauty that is life.

The next day my dad was talking to my other brother whos wife is a very empathic psychologist/loving person and asked my brother and his wife to take my younger brother for a week to help my dad eval how to communicate with John.

My older brother said "let me call you back and said "we'll do it, but the timeframe is different than you request - we would like to have john live with us for a year minimum."

I now project that my brother John recognizes the hand that is extended to him and accepts the opportunity.

With loving intention - I greet you all and give my thanks to you.

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18 Reply by montalk (edited by montalk 2005-10-18 23:08:11)

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Hey Phlux, I can verify that this works.  The more open ended yet positive and sincere your intent for another, the better it works. Something like "finding purpose and awakening to the beauty that is life" is pretty good. I have also intended that someone be guided to increasingly fulfill their true spiritual potential.  These are neutral and open enough that you're not violating freewill.

I should add that another reasons this works so well is that you're doing it for those who have yet to make their Choice in life, or perhaps those whose self-determination is hampered by redundant or hostile circumstances. This is different from those who already have made the choice and are fully anchored in it. So for instance you can help a lost soul this way, but not change one who has consciously chosen their path already. Some say it's pointless to try and convert "evil" people by bombarding them with light, and I agree, but intending for the spiritual well-being of others is an all-around good thing for the cases such as what you just described.

The way I see it, there are already forces intending/manipulating towards the ends of subverting freewill, so your intent for a bit of freedom and progress helps to create some breathing room for those who would otherwise be overwhelmed by a one-sided influence.

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19 Reply by visavis (edited by visavis 2005-10-19 00:38:33)

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A: The point is: stop filling your consciousness with monotheistic philosophies planted long ago to imprison your being. Can't you see it by now, after all you have learned, that there is no source, there is no leader, there is no basis, there is no overseer, etc... You literally possess, within your consciousness profile, all the power that exists within all of creation!?! You absolutely have all that exists, ever has, or ever will, contained within your mind. All you have to do is learn how to use it, and at that moment, you will literally, literally, be all that is, was, and ever will be!!!!!!!!

This is a strong statement in this channeling.  Being admittedly a newbie in this particular area of info, I'm not too familar with C's channeling.  I don't even know what C stands for lol...  The question begs to be asked as to why C's channel is so adamant about this particular topic, whereas my (limited) understanding is that many other 'reputable' channeled/higher sources (or sources which are generally accepted by sensitive & open truth-seeker types) pose a direct conflict with this statement.

Note that I am not talking about "religion"... I'm talking about the existence of Source.

Could I ask some opinions, from some of the more spiritually sensitive individuals on this board, as to the validity of the source in this case?  Is it generally accepted that C's channeling is inerrant?  If so, does that mean that this entity desires us to throw away all other contradicting sources?  That would require quite a lot of trashing.

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Really enjoying the last few posts, love the specifics and stories.  With regards to using intent for others...  a brief 'success' story.  On Friday of last week I was at a short race course for an advanced driving track day.  Sometimes like in these environments I get to be on the other end of the student-teacher archetype smile and help someone who's never been on a racetrack drive their car utilizing new techniques that you wouldn't use on the street unless you're a nut.

Well, this was a weird day.  Nobody was picking things up, there was a really weird 'engergy' that day and what seemed like a barrier to clear thinking and communication.  One student I had just for the life of him could't not get down a few basics.  So I got a bit frustrated.  But then out of my wanting-him-to-just-get-it-already I started to intend that he downshift for example, where he should and where I told him to dozens of times.  Almost immediately (within one corner of the track) the first time I did this he just started picking it up.  It happened like at least 2 or 3 other times like that, in that session, the more I intended (and the more out of sincerity to help him), the better the results.  And I didn't even have to say anything!

That got me thinking of how to make better use of intent in my life, maybe on a larger scale than what just seemed like little stuff that doesn't really matter, which led to a bit of frustration, which led to my original post! smile  But, I guess sometimes that little things that don't seem to really matter make for a good starting/learning point.

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Thanks for asking such an important question, visavis. All these answers are inspiring.

visavis wrote:

Could I ask some opinions, from some of the more spiritually sensitive individuals on this board, as to the validity of the source in this case?  Is it generally accepted that C's channeling is inerrant?

I second this question.

visavis wrote:

That got me thinking of how to make better use of intent in my life, maybe on a larger scale than what just seemed like little stuff that doesn't really matter, which led to a bit of frustration, which led to my original post!   But, I guess sometimes that little things that don't seem to really matter make for a good starting/learning point.

And, maybe the "little things" are not only a good starting point, but perhaps they matter much more than you think smile Don't be too hard on yourself!

22 Reply by RonD (edited by RonD 2005-10-19 05:16:15)

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The value and expansiveness of this subject is grand.  Grasping the concepts behind these practices can turn magic into miracles.  We can even build Master teacher connections within.

The article on the NR homepage "Intending and Requesting" is remarkable.  It is easy to follow.  I didn't read it till after my first post.

The C channeling is insightful, but not one entity.  I see how it fits in with what I already know.  There are members here who know it thoroughly. 

As far as I'm concerned, Wisdom only approaches Knowledge on the earth plane.  85% accurate is the best you can find.

Montalk's terms are wise in his article.  He's studied.  They aren't too religeous, and they have power. 

Intending seems to rely on personal action.  I'm working on that.

Requesting is more reaching out, and within . . . knowing there is help.  As you clear karma and nurture purity, there is lots of help.

Commands sound very promising.  "Let the light teach me what I need to know!" 

Phlux - very loving and positive to be looking out for your brother.   

We are each a part of the source.  Still, intending, requesting and commanding help us pierce the viels.

I'm going to address some of the practical little things with my intentions today!

23 Reply by montalk (edited by montalk 2005-10-19 11:37:55)

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Once & Future wrote:

visavis wrote:

Could I ask some opinions, from some of the more spiritually sensitive individuals on this board, as to the validity of the source in this case?  Is it generally accepted that C's channeling is inerrant?

I second this question.

No, not a single person on this board blindly believes everything the C's (Cassiopaeans) have said, which is what the term "inerrant" implies. Rather, I hope we're discerning enough to evalute any statement based on how well it correlates with our own experiences, reasoning, and intuition. It's just that after evaluating a wide variety of material based on this criteria, a few sources stand out as being more practical, insightful, concise, and accurate than others. In the field of channeling, I would consider the Cassiopean transmissions to be in the same league of excellence as the Seth and Ra Material. The definite presence of inaccuracy and corruption in these sources is offset by the novelty, applicability, and verifiability of the remaining information given. They are not perfect, which is why numerous other sources have also been mentioned, excerpted, and discussed here to form a more complete picture. If there are contradictions, they must be examined and resolved.

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24 Reply by wandering1 (edited by wandering1 2005-10-19 11:43:33)

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visavis wrote:

A: The point is: stop filling your consciousness with monotheistic philosophies planted long ago to imprison your being. Can't you see it by now, after all you have learned, that there is no source, there is no leader, there is no basis, there is no overseer, etc... You literally possess, within your consciousness profile, all the power that exists within all of creation!?! You absolutely have all that exists, ever has, or ever will, contained within your mind. All you have to do is learn how to use it, and at that moment, you will literally, literally, be all that is, was, and ever will be!!!!!!!!

my (limited) understanding is that many other 'reputable' channeled/higher sources (or sources which are generally accepted by sensitive & open truth-seeker types) pose a direct conflict with this statement.

visavis, I interpret the statement above to mean that the oneness is within us. 

I think it's meant to be an empowering statement.

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montalk wrote:

Since I will never in this lifetime be fully finished with self-work, rather than waiting to be finished before turning my attention to others, I aim for a dual approach by including thoughts, understandings, and love for others as well as for myself...piecemeal in a balanced series of steps.

Lately I've been thinking less in terms of finishing the work, and more in terms of perfecting the process.  Take driving for example.  Difficult to learn, but eventually the whole process drops down into the subconscious, and we can do it without even thinking about it.  That doesn't mean we stop driving.  Perhaps the process of growth is similar.

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I guess you were wondering why I mentioned the importance of requesting from higher wiser forces when the C's emphasized that we already contain all the power within ourselves. The simple answer is that we have not yet completely learned how to tap into that power, so when we need more power than we can tap into and wisely channel, then asking for assistance from wiser forces is okay.

But are these higher forces really outside of ourselves?  Channeled material still comes through a particular individual, or group of individuals.  How does that occur anyway?

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montalk wrote:

No, not a single person on this board blindly believes everything the C's (Cassiopaeans) have said, which is what the term "inerrant" implies. Rather, I hope we're discerning enough to evalute any statement based on how well it correlates with our own experiences, reasoning, and intuition. It's just that after evaluating a wide variety of material based on this criteria, a few sources stand out as being more practical, insightful, concise, and accurate than others. In the field of channeling, I would consider the Cassiopean transmissions to be in the same league of excellence as the Seth and Ra Material. The definite presence of inaccuracy and corruption in these sources is offset by the novelty, applicability, and verifiability of the remaining information given. They are not perfect, which is why numerous other sources have also been mentioned, excerpted, and discussed here to form a more complete picture. If there are contradictions, they must be examined and resolved.

Thanks for this explanation as to the popular opinion of the C's on this forum!

If the C's are in the same league as Ra, I have to give them a second glance.

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I have been thinking on the power of intention again, and with the help of Ayamone, we have written the following (hope you like it and it sparks some thought):



The power of intention.

I have trained in martial arts for quite some time. The most typical reasons for pursuing the study of martial arts is the desire to gain the ability to defend one’s life effectively, or to be able to “kick some ass”  to put it simply.

Typically the latter desire is ego driven. Both are understandable; however, as the martial arts student progresses assuming one has seriously undertaken the study and one studies under a good teacher, this base intention evolves.  In the same way the student’s physical abilitites evolve, the immortal character of the soul of the student evolves. This leads to one’s training in the martial arts unfolding into a tool or path to achieve a state of greater awareness.

The desire to understand the science of combat comes from the innate instinct to survive, but on a more macro level one could think of it as the unanlienable right of self-preservation–universal to the expression of consciousness in the material dimensions.

Seeking self preservation with constancy ultimately leads to a better understanding of self. From  ” knowing thy self” , the student understands his or her interconnectedness to the universe at large.
Whole schools of martial arts’ thought has centered on strengthening the connection to nature and the Universe. Shinden Fudo Ryu in specific guides the way to a more harmonious connection to Nature and the natural forces of the universe.  This is the true essence of the martial arts/sciences–the path that leads to a better understanding of how the self is an integral part of the whole and physical reality is but an extension of the self.

ALLthough ONE person does not make up the whole universe, the whole universe does make up one man. Another way I say this is:

You may not be all that God is, but God certainly is all that you are.

By understanding that there really is no separation between one’s self and the greater Self of the whole, one can free the mind from the limiting paradigms imposed by a fear-based consciousness of separation.

In truth we seek the most effective and efficient means of facilitating the operation of our physical selves in 3D space; we seek to master movement.  Mastering movement comes through harmonious interaction with the laws, forces, and vibrations of the Universe which brings me to the point of this essay.  The goal of martial arts ultimately teaches the control and mastery of Intent.  It is not hard to master Intent. It’s just that it’s easy to NOT master Intent.

What is intent?

A haiku on intent could be expressed:

Intent

It’s like a funnel,
Pouring energy down, through
to experience.

Formlessness to form
through one’s mindfull willingness.
Intent creates all.

Giving thanks allows,
for one to keep on flowing -
a natural state

Looking deep within,
for only movement exists.
Still– is illusion.

Although this Haiku, written a few years ago, seemed adequate at the time; it doesn’t completely capture Intent for me any longer.  I have been thinking lately that Intent really may be the ability to be fully conscious in a sphere much greater than that of the daily toughts of the conscious mind–the ability to place the center of one’s mind, or maybe one’s mind’s eye, wherever one chooses.

If one looks at it in terms of knife throwing, the first degrees that one learns is the physical movements involved in hitting the target that the weapon is thrown at.  Next the thrower realizes that the weapon is an extension of the self.  The proper focus of Intent unifies the body, weapon, and target.

I believe that ultimately one graduates to a realization that the action or physical process of successfully hitting the target is irrelevant.  The only relevant thing is the proper use of Intent.  There is no throw; there is simply the expression of the feeling of throwing the knife–the focued intent that the action of throwing the knife into the target is now made manifest.

With practice one can experience directly the myriad benefits of bringing one’s Intent in accord with the will of the Whole.  Only through perserverance can once master Intent, and in doing so, free oneself from the self-imposed limitations that prevent us from actualizing our true potential as divine beings.

Harmony is peace.

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