31 Reply by azriel (edited by azriel 2005-10-07 14:27:26)

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lyra wrote:

It's funny how when people mix stuff up, then somebody tries to clarify, then the person who did the mixing-up just ignores that and goes "Boy, look at your reaction!" while refusing to address the points at hand.   What's that all about, I wonder?

i thought i had addressed the points by explaining why i had chosen your post and not somebody elses, I didn't reply to your second post as I didnt see any point in arguing. felt you had allready completely misconstrued me (to which as you will see below i take partial responsibility!) and taken defence and i admittedly after reading your reaction (which felt very emotionally charged which is why i mentioned the buttons and being defensive) i too felt emotions rising which i didnt want to write back whilst being under the possible influence of

lyra wrote:

The mere fact that I used the word "me" means just that..........me.   Not the so-called collective.

no lyra i meant that you used the word 'you' "you're left feeling crappy" like if someone were describing lets say a restaurant and saying 'when you first come in to the restaurant you cant help but notice' thats what i meant sorry if i didnt express what i meant clearly or offended with saying the collective stuff,  - in any case it doesnt matter, it was my interpretation of your language and you've now clarified your intent smile - thank you

azriel wrote:

Perhaps it would be of use to you to sit back and examine exactly why you got such powerful negative emotions from the article and 'sensitive' about me writing something that disagrees with your views -

- i could have phrased this better to not sound presumptuos, i could have phrased it perhaps as a question or said that i am curious or could you explain -

and the sensitive bit yes i could have and it would have been better to have written 'sensitive about me writing in response to your views and not anybody elses' which would have specifically identified what you were sensitive about

look mate seriously i guess all i wanted to say in the first instance was that i didnt get all those feelings you got from his speech and i wanted to explain why, thass all! your comments caught my eye, it made me think, it motivate me to post because the experience you gave was so different to the one i had of the same event, i got such a different overall feeling from it. I was inspired, you wrote on deflation and no hope... i didnt post in response to others like saying that he may not be an insider or isnt well i dont have enough of an opinion one way or the other to discuss and reptilians aint something im interested in discussing. I posted in reply to something about the insider that was important to me. like i said before i guess in saying the stuff about examining your feelings is also me being really curious about how you got feelings like this when i didnt at all! amd the ego stuff initially stemmed from me wanting to suggest that perhaps you got the  feelings you did because he didnt mention things that you felt were important concepts like 'the higher' self - again me not understanding your feelings that were so different from mine and making a suggestion, thass alll i meant!!

is that ok?

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Hi Azriel, just curious, what was it about Insider's message that inspired you?  I am one of those who didn't care for his vibe, but I am open to other points of view.

By the way, that's a cute pic of you and your dog in the pics thread. smile

33 Reply by azriel (edited by azriel 2005-10-09 05:12:46)

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Hi Jen, happy to share my views and discuss smile

bits that i most resonated with;

insider wrote:

Do you know that not just spoken words but also written words emanate a frequency which have a direct effect?

There will be a time when everyone will be released but that is not a mass event, but rather 1 by 1....work on yourself.

Nothing is hidden.

We manipulate this world only as far as we are allowed to by the Divine Law.
We provide you with tools and then it us up to you to determine how you use it.
Tools can be used in a maliscious way but noone is forcing you to use them that way....you are choosing yourself.
So despising the ones who provide you with the tool that you voluntarily chose to "sin" with is about you trying to camouflage your tracks.

You get what you deserve, that is how this universe works.
We do our duty, so do yours.

There is just 1 struggle and it is now, here on this planet and on a personal level....meaning you only.
There is no enemy you can attack except yourself.
If you are busy attacking something else, you are wasting precious energy and you will fail.

If you succeed, there will be no struggle anymore.

The tools are in your hands, around you, everywhere...it is even being drawn out of you.

We are neutral and doing our duty which many times comes across as being negative.
If you observe closely you will see we merely spreading the tools which can be used by you to free yourself or chain yourself, your choice.

The Divine Law has a purpose for you and it is not on this planet.

Knowing yourself and where you really are, are the 2 most important issues that you should be involved with.
It is your task to find out.

The Divine Law controls what is called karma, but it is much broader and "harsher" than people want to accept.
Example: someone who gets cancer and dies a slow painful death deserves it, that person is being corrected, it is for his own good.
Sounds "harsh"?
That ´s the way it works.
Just because it comes across as negative in this realm does not mean it is negative in the big picture.

Be like that which you want to connect with as much as possible

Most of the above portrays a couple of main concepts which i find of use

The first is the concept of self responsibility and introspection. I think in searching for 'truth' its very easy to get caught up in seeking knowledge and information outside yourself , who is in control, who are the 'negative' entities, how do they manipulate us etc.

Whilst i think that having knowledge of the outside helps you along your path to recognise what is happening and deal with it accordingly ultimately i think you can surpass all of this to where none of it matters because who and what you are can go beyond it, it reminds me of what a spiritual master i once knew said 'if you are clearer, filled with more light then denser shadow will be drawn to you for that is the way energy flows, but it will only cling to you if there is something there allready for it to cling on to, if you have no shadow in yourself then it will pass straight through you'...similarly as far as I understood from Montalk's article on TRC, negative beings will only be allowed to attack you by your higher self if there is something to be learnt. I don't think that focusing on the external is gonna get you outta the prison, i think its mastering your own mind and your own ego to see beyond the illusion and to connect with 'the soul of the world' ..ooh reminds me have you read the alchemist? when the boy is trying to be the wind:

" The boy reached through to the Soul of the World, and saw that it was a part of the Soul of God. And he saw that the Soul of God was his own soul. And that he, a boy, could perform miracles"

if everything is illusion and you can go beyond the illusion then those who control the illusion cant touch you imo - great in this respect that The Insider also mentions that you don't have to be a bloodline to get to this level.

Also saying stuff like that no one can tell you the truth, that you're not gonna 'get it' no matter how many books you read or research you do, its gotta come from within you. he also says that nothing is hidden so this to me suggests that perhaps its just us through our conditioned eyes that cannot see 'the truth'

it is like many spiritual masters say, 'the truth is within you' or 'the answers are within you' and similar


the second point that he makes is addressing the concept of dualities. He is saying that his role is not negative, its neutral, its just that we perceive it as negative. I personally think that dualities serve little if any good and are perhaps a limited way that the conditioned, human mind can understand things. Recently ive been reading Stuart Wilde's 'The infinite self' which i have found excellent for refamiliarising myself with the concepts of Taoism. One of these concepts is "Negative energy and what we consider unpleasant experiences are just contradictions of the ego's opinion". Stuart also says that the first step is to "embrace a neutral position"

so the stuff with the tools, it resonates truth with me, there are tools there and it is us and our conditioned and corrupted human minds that turn these tools in to 'good' or 'evil', or to feel helpless or victimised coz theres too much shit in our head to see the tools.. again this goes back to self responsibility

so from his message i got that we live in a neutral plane where everything is at our disposal and all knowledge is really within us, all we gotta do is have the discipline and courage to actually work on ourselves enough to use the tools in the right way and access our inner power

tailoring this down even more it says to me 'its all in your hands'

imo thats quite an inspiring message smile

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thanks for elucidating your position on this, azriel.  As it happens, those are the parts of Insider's message that I resonated with myself.  I didn't like the condescending tone of many of his responses, i.e. calling people "peasants", informing them that they had just earned themselves another lifetime, etc.  Also I don't believe that we were "created in a petri dish" and that Earth is "worse than a prison."

But, the message of self-responsibility is right on, and my recent post
in Spirituality and Metaphysics in "The Positive, Critical Point" is all about that. 

I also think the core of Insider's message is the same as in this article
"Archons of Destiny" by Robertino Solarion:

http://www.soulwise.net/99archon.htm

excerpt:

"If man could prevent his golden broth from being stolen, with this vital product he could become equal to the gods, rapidly evolving upon integrally using the products from the chemical laboratory of his physical body. This is exactly what is done by the student of Hermeticism, who is transitorily freed by the Archons of Destiny. Said individual, by virtue of his understanding and responsibility, has no need of an overseer with whip in hand to oblige him to evolve through suffering, as he takes responsibility for his evolution into his own hands, and if he deems it necessary submits himself to the same temporary suffering in order to attain eternal happiness. This is in contrast to the profane or worldly person who chooses fleeting enjoyment at the expense of 'eternal' suffering.

"If the student fails or turns aside from his path, taking advantage of his temporary freedom, the Archons again take him under their control, punishing him very severely.

"From another point of view, we can see how certain countries are chosen by the Archons for veritable 'martyrdom.' Furthermore, do not believe that this suffering is futile, as such a sacrifice generally brings about a moral, material, spiritual and intellectual revival of the population by virtue of the law of suffering. Thus it is after wars that we notice a rapid revival toward a higher state. Wars are a high price to pay for evolution, for they could have been avoided had there been sufficient 'clear-headed people' in the world the masses would have been willing to follow.

"No more revealing of secrets which are hidden from sapiens! Let us spread a cloak of silence on this subject in order to comply with the mandate of the esoteric sphinx who demands silence. Speech and silence are two swords which must be handled with sublime skill in order not to disrupt universal harmony. Those who have 'eyes to see' will understand everything not stated in the written word, but in the cryptic language of the initiate. For those not in this state, it is best that they understand nothing and continue sweetly sleeping. Ultimately, the Archons run no risk of a 'bad harvest' from a possible rebellion of sapiens. For sapiens is too blind to see where danger really is found.

"It is sad to observe the tremendous limitation of sapiens, who shuts himself up in the small world of stereotypes, of knowledge, all learned by rote, of imitation and devices of compensation and defense.

"His mental infirmity prevents him from realizing how small is the cubicle which imprisons him. And, thus, with a mind made up in advance, he accepts, condemns or tolerates without bothering to further analyze intelligently the situations with which he is faced."

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AB wrote:

Have read Insider's posts. Found them flawless.

Cool, peasant wink

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AB wrote:

Cool, pleasant.

big_smile

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The Insider has posted again, at GLP, I just caught it a minute ago.  Here you go, creepy!

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 535
10/17/2005
7:55 pm EDT
On October 2, 2005 I said:

By Monday, October 17

"Let it begin. Good luck to you all."

Here is the current situation:

EARTHQUAKES:
My posting was on Sunday, October 2, 2005 at 8:50 p.m. (EST)

The Kashmir quake was on Sunday, October 8, 2005 at 8:50 a.m. (Local time)

Opposite ends of the week at opposite ends of "time". That is the best I could do without getting caught. Sorry.

I will assume that everyone is familiar with the Kashmir event. Additionally, I will also assume that everyone is aware that Kashmiri earthquake survivors are upset with "civilian" aid workers and want the Army to help them. Does this sound familiar to anyone? The plan will continue. Worldwide.

Today, there were no less that 10 listed earthquakes of over 5.0. Some were in the same area, but it matters not. This will
dip for a bit then get worse. MUCH worse.

WILMA:
Again, we do not have the ability to create storms, but we can predict and direct them. I choose Monday, October 17th for a specific predictive reason. I hope this is now apparent. Please realize the following important point.

THE NEXT STORM AFTER THIS WILL BE NAMED ALPHA. THE BEGINNING. AS IN MY ORIGINAL DATED POST, "LET IT BEGIN". THIS IS NOT WISHFUL THINKING. THIS IS NOT LUCK. THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT ON GLP OR ANYWHERE ELSE. PLEASE KEEP YOUR WITS ABOUT YOU AS I HAVE BECOME SOMEWHAT FOND OF GLP AND IT ´S MEMBERS. KEEP YOUR EYES AND EARS OPEN.

I will continue to post on occasion if I am wanted and feel safe here. Remember my comments about energy, availability, and prices. This information was made available to you before it was  ´hot ´ and  ´out in the open ´. I hope you use it wisely.

**For those that are curious, we have EXTREMELY accurate long term forecast models calculated on a military (not public knowledge or available) prototype BlueGene/L System. Approximately 273.6 TFlop/s for those that wish to know.
Obviously, with time as a variable, the further out we wish to predict, the less accurate we are with event prediction. Intensity is even more difficult to predict, interestingly enough.**

GENERAL:

Three days after that post, you have seen the required statements by the President of the United States in regards to disasters (hurricanes, avian flu, etc.) and relationship to the outright call for suspension of the Posse Commtus Act. This is by design and related to the nomination of Miers. I will say no more on this potentially dangerous subject (at least to me).

I will not even begin on the Plame case OR Iran. I believe that you can all figure out there has been a radical acceleration since my "prediction" timeframe. Remember, it is just the beginning. ON ALL FRONTS. I really do not have the time or the space to list them all, but at least to give the highlights.

I may post more later as events, time, and safety permit. Good luck to all and remember again... this is just the beginning.

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The vibe behind this recent post isn't the same as the original Insider posts. Whoever wrote it is more negative, less intelligent, slightly unstable, and full of himself. Just a poor copycat, in my opinion.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Re: URGENT URGENT -- Ruling Elite member at forum!!!! This is indeed real.

I definatly caught that vibe he sounds competly different than the ''insider'' he has mentioned some points but basically only things already mentioned or known. Insider is much calmer and not freakin out sounding...

40 Reply by visavis (edited by visavis 2005-10-18 09:57:34)

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Did anyone see the anomoly on Page 3 of that post, where Anonymous Coward made a post and Insider repeated it, within the same minute?

The quote was,

Re: I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question

Accidental Stoner

Those were many questions....
Most I would answer yes, some no.

Don ´t believe all that "gurus" tell about us and you will do fine.

and Insider repeated the exact same thing. 

Tell me, and think about this critically for a moment, with respect to the quote itself -- would this not then imply that Anonymous Coward is actually Insider?

Like he's going back and forth, on two separate computers or logins.... and made a mistake...

Why else would "Anonymous" Coward FIRST reply in the same tone/pattern as Insider -- only to have Insider REPEAT that same post, seconds later???

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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what a bunch of balooney

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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Yeah,  when I first found GLP I was astounded by the number of posts by this "Anonymous Coward" who I assumed was one person.  How prolific!
Then I realized that anyone who doesn't choose a username, whether logged in or not,  is automatically given that title.

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Yes. A.C is the default guest label for those who post without registering.  The 'Insider' had user ID 535 while he posted and that was the same ID form the most recent post I displayed above.  I do not know if this is the same individual.  It could be a team of people. A psyops of sorts, like most of the content in GLP (Aussie, etc). Either way there are still truths within the content, as always it is a matter of surfacing those small tidbits.

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Insider had been under several use IDs, the first being 13 if I recall correctly.

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Aprogas wrote:

Insider had been under several use IDs, the first being 13 if I recall correctly.

User ID 13 was apparently an associate of 'the Insider' if I recall correctly.  And the majority of 'the Insiders' posts were from user ID 535, initially it was something else then transitioned to the 535 ID.