• From: The Singularity
  • Registered: 2005-09-23

Topic: 2012. Just another piece of disinformation?

Well I've been pondering on this one for a while.  Many of you are familiar with the whole 2012, end of Mayan calendar, galactic synchronization, ascension, scenario.

I won't go into the supporting evidence, cause there is plenty of it out there, and a lot of it is quite good.

What I want to write about is this nagging feeling that maybe the whole thing is just another distraction/disinformation tactic. 

I've noticed that a lot of my decision-making processes have become influenced by the idea that the world as we know it will no longer be here in a few years.  Just to clarify, I'm not talking about doom and gloom, we're all going to die, stuff.  I'm talking about moving/shifting into a higher, more harmonious, level of existence.

Things like paying off my student loans, or more aggressively pursuing my career, or other 'worldy' activities, seem to be taking a seat on the back burner while my focus is shifting to enjoying myself, having a good time, and doing what I love.

Usually I think this is a good thing, that it is part of this process that we are all going through, and that one day soon most of the crap that I really dislike about life on this planet will fall out of my personal experience.

But what if it's all just another ruse, designed to keep me and people like me from pursuing prominent positions in the world while the PTBs lock down and move in for the checkmate?

Imagine all those good-hearted souls waking up on December 22, 2012 to the realization that all the hope and faith they had placed in "The Shift"  was the result of just another great manipulation?  Wow, what a bountiful harvest of loosh that would be!

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.
  • From: England
  • Registered: 2005-04-20

Re: 2012. Just another piece of disinformation?

I have felt that that same sense of some huge changes to occur in the next few years just have many others, the great Drama appears to be drawing to a finale. Its made me look at myself , debt issues , family issues and adopt more of a survival attitude.
We are either sensing something or have brainwashed ourselves or allowed others to do it for us i guess smile

The 2012 question is interesting but i avoid any beliefs, though i often i read  the more postive sides story's when i need a bit of mental comfort smile
Quite possible 2012 could be used by TPTB.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.
  • From: aworld w/out invisible borders
  • Registered: 2005-06-09

Re: 2012. Just another piece of disinformation?

Yeah, I feel the same way.  I don't think that the calendar can hit a certain day and that BOOM we all wake up and ascend. 

These lyrics.. ironically state how I feel towards the matter.  Its a song by incubus.

A certain shade of green,
tell me, is that what you need?
All signs around say move ahead.
Could someone please explain to me
your ever present lack of speed?
Are your muscles bound by ropes?
Or do crutches cloud your day?
My sources say the road is clear,
and street signs point the way.

Are you gonna stand around 'till 2012 A.D.?
What are you waiting for,
A certain shade of green?
I think I grew a gray watching you procrastinate.
What are you waiting for,
A certain shade of green?

Would a written invitation
signed, "Choose now or lose it all,"
sedate your hesitation?
Or inflame and make you stall?
You've been raised in limitation,
but that glove never fit quite right.
The time has passed for hand-me-downs,
choose a new, please evolve,
take flight.

Are you gonna stand around till 2012 A.D.?
What are you waiting for,
A certain shade of green?
I think I grew a gray watching you procrastinate.
(Talk that thing)
Green? What are you waiting for?
Said what are you waiting for?

You have to do it yourself... 2012 is another EXTERNAL manifestation.  Sure the vibrations or whatever might rise a little bit.. but its all on ourselves.  Do the work, or change... yea do the change! smile

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun

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4 Reply by Xenopope (edited by Xenopope 2005-10-04 13:41:36)

  • From: NOTHING
  • Registered: 2004-09-03

Re: 2012. Just another piece of disinformation?

The uhm thing here posted by somebody here says it's gonna be in 2008, not 2012.

*shrugs*

I am as is Void.

5 Reply by Jen (edited by Jen 2005-10-04 22:27:15)

  • Jen
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Re: 2012. Just another piece of disinformation?

Natural Mystic wrote:

Yeah, I feel the same way.  I don't think that the calendar can hit a certain day and that BOOM we all wake up and ascend.

No, of course not.  That's a very shallow understanding of the meaning of 12/21/2012.

You have to do it yourself... 2012 is another EXTERNAL manifestation.  Sure the vibrations or whatever might rise a little bit.. but its all on ourselves.  Do the work, or change... yea do the change! smile

Well, as far as 2012 being an external event...is anything really external to us?  I'm sure you've heard the saying "as above, so below."  Meaning, the outer and the inner are reflective of one another and that ultimately there is no separation between them.

There is a definite astrological event happening on 12/21/2012:  a conjunction of our Sun with the Galactic Center, a very uncommon and powerful aspect.  But this is not what is "causing" the changes foretold for this time, it's just representative of the new potentials in humanity.
We're already seeing a lot of changes in our solar system in preparation for this event.

Yes, we have to do/be the change, it's not about waiting around for everything to suddenly be perfect.  As the Pleiadians say in Marciniak's latest book, Path of Empowerment, which speaks much of the significance of 2012:

Developing a stance of personal responsibility will open all the doors to healing old wounds and energies that have blocked the flow of human development. There are many ways of perceiving life; and how you interpret the world depends, of course, on what you choose to believe...Using your abilities to create a new probable world is the name of the game!  All realities are occuring--destruction or regeneration is a choice.  You can have whatever you want; your thoughts, dreams, and intentions alter the structure of reality, so which program do you choose to create?

So, tenetnosce, it's not about putting our faith in a calendar date, it's about taking our power, which can only be a good thing both for us and the planet as a whole.

And, it's also about learning to live in the moment.  As Ken Carey wrote:

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/angel … kening.htm

The best way to prepare for any future moment in time is be fully in the present moment now.

The only habit you must cultivate, though it may go against the programming and traditions of your society, is to allow your consciousness the relaxed flow of attention that brings you a clear and accurate picture of the phenomenal world and continuous awareness of the Eternal Presence from which it has unfolded. Such a state of consciousness will allow you to enjoy the rushing energy currents and heightened awareness that will sweep through the earth during the expansion of the nontime interval and will maximalize the stabilizing influence that radiates from you into your local surroundings.

If you feel moved to pursue a "prominent position in the world" then of course you should.  But if not, then naturally you ought to pursue those things that do fulfill you, and a calendar date has nothing to do with it.

Read Path of Empowerment! smile

  • Registered: 2004-08-19

Re: 2012. Just another piece of disinformation?

About the Sun supposedly being aligned with the Galactic Center:
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 941#p17941

7 Reply by tenetnosce (edited by tenetnosce 2005-10-05 01:55:38)

  • From: The Singularity
  • Registered: 2005-09-23

Re: 2012. Just another piece of disinformation?

Rest assured, in case anybody is wondering, my intention is not to "debunk" anything regarding this process of transformation.  I believe that this is happening, and aside from my own inner guidance, have found several sources of external confirmation.  David Wilcock's work which can be found at ascension2000.com is excellent, and I have read most of Marciniak's work.  Interestingly, I went to the bookstore the other day to pick up a copy of her newest book, and it wasn't there.  I guess I'll have to go to the specialty store for that one.

My point is simply to bring up the fact that I have noticed a certain level of complacency on my own part in handling certain issues that I have been confronting.

Part of me feels like I have done enough.  That I have already chosen the outcome that I wish to experience, and that any work I do from here on out will simply place me in "advanced standing" so to speak, when the shift occurs.  That what I am going to be able to participate in is so huge, so momentous, that even my greatest efforts toward growth will be lost in the ineffable wave of consciousness that I will become engulfed in.  And once that happens, all of my unsettled business will be much easier to handle, so why keep struggling now?

Another part of me feels like I am in danger of losing all the ground that I have gained by letting go of the need to grow more, to be more, and to have more in life.

In all honesty, I'd love to just relax and enjoy what I can in life and f*@# the rest.  Maybe that is the final lesson. . .?

In any case, whatever may be coming down the line, I am certain that we as a whole are still in spiritual kindergarten, as evidenced by the fact that our primary lessons in life seem to revolve around getting along with each other on the playground, and sharing our toys with each other.

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.
  • Ian
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  • From: Ottawa, CAN/Sydney, AUS
  • Registered: 2005-06-21

Re: 2012. Just another piece of disinformation?

Many people don't just believe in the 2012 shift, they "know" it with their inner being. This is something you need to confirm or deny for yourself, but I think once you check it against your inner being you will realize it is real and not disinformation. But of course it's up to you to find out. Like many advocate it is important to gather as much info as possible and use your good logic to sift through disinfo and plain falsehoods (I especially like Montalk's philosophy of truth analysis), but it has also been shown that the truth exists somewhere inside us. If we make that connection we cannot be led astray, but we must be certain we've made the right connection. That is your ultimate source of knowledge and truth. So I suggest you meditate deeply, tenetnosce, and ask yourself the questions you want answered, and listen for the echo... smile

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Re: 2012. Just another piece of disinformation?

Ian wrote:

Many people don't just believe in the 2012 shift, they "know" it with their inner being. This is something you need to confirm or deny for yourself, but I think once you check it against your inner being you will realize it is real and not disinformation. But of course it's up to you to find out. Like many advocate it is important to gather as much info as possible and use your good logic to sift through disinfo and plain falsehoods (I especially like Montalk's philosophy of truth analysis), but it has also been shown that the truth exists somewhere inside us. If we make that connection we cannot be led astray, but we must be certain we've made the right connection. That is your ultimate source of knowledge and truth. So I suggest you meditate deeply, tenetnosce, and ask yourself the questions you want answered, and listen for the echo... smile

Thanks for pointing this out, Ian.  Definitely, our intuition is crucial when it comes to such speculations.  Tenetnosce brought up the question of whether 2012 is disinfo put out by the PTB.  I do think they attempt to muddy the waters about such things, and a lot of people are easily confused simply because they have not developed this inner tuning, or "truth detector."  We all have it, though--the "still, small voice" within.