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Jen wrote:

OTOH, let's not forget that many people in 3D see their animals as equal beings, and are even closer to them than they are to their own flesh and blood!  Likewise,  not all beings in 4D see humans as something to feed off, though some do.

??  I read ferit's post, but I didn't get that he was saying that *all* 4D entities see humans as something to feed off of.  He said, quote,

ferit wrote:

"there are beings that see humans as plants/animals (4D) and there are beings that see humans as minerals (6D?)."

There are beings he said....he didn't say "all beings, always."  So, there's nothing wrong with what he wrote really.  It's the truth.  There are beings that view us as food, absolutely.




feritciva wrote:

From what I read, Op. Terra seems like a halfway between circus and a zoo!

big_smile  That was good, I like it.  Made me laugh out loud!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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lyra wrote:
Jen wrote:

OTOH, let's not forget that many people in 3D see their animals as equal beings, and are even closer to them than they are to their own flesh and blood!  Likewise,  not all beings in 4D see humans as something to feed off, though some do.

??  I read ferit's post, but I didn't get that he was saying that *all* 4D entities see humans as something to feed off of.  He said, quote,

ferit wrote:

"there are beings that see humans as plants/animals (4D) and there are beings that see humans as minerals (6D?)."

There are beings he said....he didn't say "all beings, always."  So, there's nothing wrong with what he wrote really.  It's the truth.  There are beings that view us as food, absolutely.

Lyra, I did not mean to imply there was anything "wrong" with what he wrote.  And,  yes, as I said, I agree that there are beings that feed off of us on 4D.  I was just trying the make the picture a little bigger (a habit of mine).

However, I never heard that 6D beings see us as minerals...?

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Monica wrote:

I also disagree that not-so-physical STO aren't forced to interact with STS except by choice. STS have invaded "spaces" (for lack of a better non-physical expression) where not-so-physical STO thought they were safe. I know this for a fact.

Jen wrote:

Could you elaborate?

In one view the game is STS vs. STO ... STO seeking to live in Oneness, STS seeking to stop it. Duality lives in all Ds that express physically. Doesn't matter how high you go. If you're using the material essence of the Void or spirit essence or whatever you call the material, you're physically creating and physically creating takes duality.

So STO have had their Oneness realities invaded. Treaties have been broken often. These are things I learned / remembered since reuniting with my eternal family.


Monica wrote:

So I feel the Ra material (which by using a multi-layered definition may imply raw material) can be honed or more finely tuned by expansion of consciousness. Not arguing about original meanings, just questioning if they truly apply across the board.

Jen wrote:

Not sure what you are saying here...

In this thread we can read both the black & white definition of STS and STO and at the same time note exceptions to the rule or questions as to where something fits in these categories. No teaching on earth has all the answers. None. There are always exceptions to rules and ways to uncategorize, which I find to be the way to expand consciousness. "These are the rules laid down here. What concept breaks these rules, if any? What's missing by seeing this in a category instead of freerange?" Sometimes something new pings and sometimes I hit a brick wall, but I don't buy anybody's package outright.

Being human I am by nature STS. Being divine I am by nature STO. My human nature rises to my divine, but my divine rises to my human too, so by nature, when I am One, I am neither or both.

Feritciva mentions nutrition as a fractal. Indeed, as above so below. Does the "food chain" ever really end? The give and take of chi between creative individuals goes on in whatever D, whether a dark or light creation. Not all beings in any D see other entities as someone to feed off, though some do. It doesn't stop at a certain D. It's a choice of which resonance you want to hang out in, not higher or lower.

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After reading this thread I thought some of you might be interested in reading an article I wrote ten years ago about the photon belt, ascension, etc, as related by  Sheldon Nidle and Barbara Marciniak.  Some things never change.  Here's the link:  http://pages.zdnet.com/cycocat3/id26.html

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Sorry, that was my mistake. I was in a rush whe I wrote that post and I immediately felt I couldn't tell all the things I wanted in that short time. Lyra is right, I tried to say "there are some beings" and Jen is right, there are some human beings who see/treat animals as equals (maybe because they know they ARE simply the same, expressions of life in 3D). This reminds me of Charlie & the Chocolate Factory, but this is a post for movies thread.

As for 6D's seeing as minerals, I strongly feel that there are some higher beings who don't care about us or this sector of known universe more than we care about a calcium atom, but this has no practical meaning for us of course big_smile

By the way thanks for the link cycocat9, I really enjoyed your article. Personal experiences & expressions are always more important than theorical thoughts, imho.

Change we must, to live again
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Is FRV the same as FUBAR?

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I am very interested in all the information posted here concerning Operation Terra (Terror).  I was "captured" by this sites messages several years ago.  Then when Lyara posted about her boyfriend having to go to jail for whatever reason, I promptly left the site, not to return for at least 1/2 a year.  I then decided to become a part of the forum, but, mainly just to read what others were posting.  I got very little from their postings so ignored the whole thing for awhile.  Something drew my attention back to the OP site recently.  I discovered,  had I not saved the forum site, I would have not been able to be on the forums any longer.  No one "new" is allowed on the forum now.  That was a big alarm to me.  Made no logical sense.......hmmmmm.
I recently posted on the forum, and received zero responses. SO, I asked why no one ever responded to my postings.  I finally received a response from the others on the forum.  I have yet to respond.  I feel you all are correct. This is a huge hoax being played out by the STS.  ( Please comment:-)

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Back in August, I came across a post on Yahoo about what was going on with Lyara and her expecting to be "lifted".  On one hand, I had resonated with much of the wisdom contained in her first two volumes when I read them three or four years ago, but on the other hand, her rescue scenario never did feel right to me, (even though the idea of being whisked away to a perfect and harmonious Terra was certainly appealing on some level.)

I actually joined her forum for a month in 2003, out of curiosity, but never posted there.   I think it may have been around the time that she shared her story about her legal troubles, which seemed to provide insight into why she focused so much on the whole rescue scenario.   It also raised some red flags for me. 

Last year I read a message she had posted that was very negative, and at that point I was completely done with the whole thing, at least until I came across her final message, about her expectation of being lifted aboard a ship, posted on the Yahoo group.   I felt a bit distressed about it, because I had found a lot of truth and wisdom in her first two books, and I wanted to find out more about what happened (or didn’t happen.)   

I did a Google search looking for information, and found the thread about it here at NR.  I read the Operation Terra thread and many others, and I was very impressed with the level of discussion here.  It’s so nice to find a forum where the posters are so respectful and open minded, and ultimately positive even though the subjects discussed can sometimes be rather negative.  I appreciate that balance, and the high level of consciousness in so may of the posts.

I guess the whole Operation Terror thing is a very big lesson in discernment and not giving away your power.

I think Lyra made a comment here about it being a bad idea to agree to an invitation to be lifted - especially if it's presented in a "quick, you have to decide and agree right now" sort of way.  (I can't find the post.)  I totally agree with that.  Major red flags there.

I was recently cleaning out my hard drive and came across this reading posted by David Wilcock a few years back, and since he channels RA whom many here like, I thought I would post this quote:

Wilcock Reading 12/05/02

- Internet publication 12/19/02

...We want to again remind you, as we have often stated before, that prior to the time of ascension there will be that of the shifting of the poles. Prior to the time of the shifting of the poles, there will be what we refer to as a mass boarding event, whereby we will arrive in your skies and allow those who are ready to come with us. Those who are ready will be petitioned as such where there will be an experience of a greeting of some sort. It is this greeting that will be most explicitly inspirational and uplifting to the physical entity as it will correspond to that which is of most religious significance or spiritual significance for that entity’s vibratory pattern throughout the physical sojourn.

This inspirational uplifting experience does then take the form of an invitation, and it is important that the decision then be made rather quickly as time is short. This is the time where you cannot take anything with you, and you have to be willing to step forward and proceed. This time will be occurring in the now, and thus the now is all you have. It is the now when you are reading these words, and it will be that same now that you experience when we invite you to come with us. At that time you must not hesitate. You must be ready to go, or else you will stay behind for the resulting changes on the physical earth which may be of a more traumatic variety. Understand that all will be given the opportunity to proceed but few will chose to do so because they fear… (tape flips)

Understand that there will be those who do not proceed for they fear that there is some evil or deception that is taking place, and they understand only that which tells them, "This is trick. This is a trap. This is not what I want. I don’t believe you." We are fully prepared for this, and thus those who choose automatically to be ready will be those who have meditated and prepared in advance for this experience, not to happen in some ill-defined and never reached future, but rather in the now. And thus we encourage you to seek ascension in the now. Recognize that each breath lifts you higher and closer to the One Infinite Creator, and you can think of this much as a form of levitation, for it is the levity that is brought into your life: the ability to laugh at the problems or alleged problems and see them simply as opportunities to move past those strictures that have held you back before, and allow you to attain higher and higher degrees of fulfillment for yourself and for others. Recognize that you can allow the pain to simply be another experience, and move through those experiences.

Recognize that you must be thinking more concretely about what you are leaving behind and about packing your bags if you are to be fully prepared for this change that is coming. You must not fall into the trap of feeling that you are not good enough for something like this, or that it will never be truly be attained because you have wanted it so long that you have almost given up on the idea that it could ever be possible. It will happen. It will be real. It will be right now, and you will need to make a choice rather quickly. And thus it is wise to prepare yourself. Therefore, it is good to clear your accounts with the physical. This is much in the same sense as one would go through if they were aware that they were going to be shedding the physical body through a natural death process.

And now for a very different perspective... posted by Gary Bonnell on his message board:

From:  http://www.garybonnell.com/forums/viewt … fd93df5d66

There will be those who decide to be rescued from Earth instead of going through the shift to unity and ascension. This happened at the end of the Atlatian epoch and will happen again.

What you believe within your core will manifest in physical terms during the Twelve Days of Light. Many Triads, especially those believing whole-heartedly in the "salvation" of the more technologically advanced off-world beings, will see this as an opportunity to advance, to graduate from the wheel of birth and death through their other-worldly solutions.

The Triads that do this will not have an ascension signature within the etheric body of their Soul and will therefore not be able to "manifest" a physical form at will, but will instead have to take a form being created for them.

This taking of a physical form, instead of manifesting a physical form, will imprison them again. If not in this system, then in one very similar in frequency.

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Mystical Girl,

First of all, I would like to say it is my pleasure to converse with you!  I appreciate the information you posted and it resonates with me.  I ended up here due to my searching for more info on the OP.  This site made much more sense! 
I have run across "RA" but must confess I do not know much about him?  Is he a channeled entity?  I have read much that corresponds to this way of thinking however. 
As far as my main seeking....it has been for spiritual awareness.  THE THIRD MILLENNIUM , by Ken Carey was very enlightening. And books from Eckhart Tolle, such as STILLNESS SPEAKS.  As well as,
CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD. by Neale Donald Walsch.

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One more important thing that I have been told in my seeking, to be careful of the traps............always ask...........IS THIS LOVE OR FEAR SPEAKING?  I think that is very relevant advice:-)

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be careful of the traps............always ask...........IS THIS LOVE OR FEAR SPEAKING?

Very good advice indeed!

It seems we've found this forum in the same way.  Also, the Conversation With God books are probably my all-time favorites.  (And I have read a lot of books!)  They calibrate very high when using muscle testing to calibrate the level of consciuosness - as described in the book "Power Vs Force".   I'm in the middle of re-reading Book 3 right now, which is actually the first book of the trilogy I originally read.

I am probably not the best person here to answer your questions about RA.  I believe they describe themselves as a "social memory complex" which is supposed to mean a large group of completely integrated souls.  I think they are supposed to be sixth dimensional, but I'm not certain.  There are posts on this site with more accurate information, as many here are very familiar with these channelings.

I met Carla Rueckert and her inner circle at a conference a few years ago.  She seemed like a lovely woman.  I bought her book "A Wanderer’s Handbook", but haven’t read very much of it.  I also bought the first RA book online… it was supposed to be "Like New" but had writing throughout, and literally stunk.   I mean it had the most sickening, putrid smell.  I took it as a sign that it was not for me, though I did read a few pages in a very ventilated room. 

It may just be because it is very difficult, time consuming material and would be too much of a distraction for me.  That’s kind of how I’ve felt when I’ve stumbled across the C’s site. 

I’m such a - get to the point, and give me the bottom line as short and succinctly as possible – kind of person… although you probably wouldn't guess by the way I tend to ramble on and on in my own posts. wink

David Wilcock who I quoted above was also a speaker at that conference.  I really liked him a lot - very intellectual and a fascinating speaker.  He is supposed to be the incarnation of Edgar Cayce.  I guess he is associated with Carla's organization L/L Research, and also channels RA.  Someone here posted a reading from him on another thread that was really interesting.   I was rather surprised to find his post about the ET rescue scenario because I didn't really think it was part of that group's teachings... but like I said, I'm just not that familiar.

Anyway... welcome to these forums.  I'm still pretty new, but there's some very interesting and insightful reading here.

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Thanks for the excerpts, Mystical Girl. I haven't previously come across this particular comment by Wilcock's source, but it does match the Operation Terra message pretty closely. Too closely. What this says, I am not sure. Perhaps both are essentially correct, or maybe OpTerra was being deceptive by giving too early a schedule for the lifting, or the timing is right and there will be a poleshift soon, or both sources are being deceptive. I am not sold on the claim that Wilcock's source is exactly the same as the Ra group channeled by L/L research in the early 80s...perhaps there is greater corruption and something slipped in here? Or it could be spot on. Something I'll be pondering...

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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I am only going to do a brief post in response to yours!  My heart is "SINGING"!!  Yes, I am at the right place and the right time!  I thank you once again for your info.....I will read more from all the others here!  I am a very happy camper:-)  Thrilled I am to be here and thank you for the welcome:-) And yes.....I can ramble too...but, am always anxious as you are about getting to the point.  And sometimes words are so inadequate!  Though...necessary in this dimension!  Can you see me SMILING?

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On the Op forums I always felt they were "faking" their love.  I also had the prevailing "feeling" they would pounce on me if I disagreed with anything they spoke of.

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Seeker of Truth wrote:

On the Op forums I always felt they were "faking" their love.  I also had the prevailing "feeling" they would pounce on me if I disagreed with anything they spoke of.

From one who has been there, I can only say "Yup."

Like Montalk, I was surprised to read that Ra channeling from Wilcock, although
there was a note about this in the Law of One Study Guide.  Well, I like
Wilcock, and I like Ra, and this certainly seems the time for great earth changes, so I'll pack a bag, just in case! smile