1 (edited by indigo 2005-10-01 14:47:40)

Topic: where abouts

Some may wonder where I went at the end of February.  My last post was there abouts.

In April and May (April 5th to May 5th) I travelled just over 10,000 miles (by car from the Mid-west to the West coast (California and Oregon) and back (through Nevada, Utah, Wyoming...), then up to Ontario, Canada, then to Niagara Falls, and Portland Maine, then back to the Mid-west.

I then went a couple more thousand miles to move back into the Seattle area (a Belltown apt.) for two months.  I found the whole West coast too materialistic (elitist), dark dominated, and Seattle too cloudy/rainy (from my eight years off and on there) and gothic dominated.

I no longer really care to listen to Radiohead (the Brit alt-rock band), though I did not give away or throw away or sell any of their albums I still have. I like Coldplay, Keane, U2, and Moody Blues and softer stuff nowadays, more compassionate voices/sounds (Peter Gabriel's 'Don't Give Up' and 'Solsbury Hill') and 'Come Sail Away' by Styx (one of the few songs of theirs I like).

I just recently returned to the Mid-west again (I find it somewhat tolerable here and less intense than the West Coast or East Coast).

My modem broke down after listening to the C2C radio show (Noory) and an interview with a vampire hunter, a Catholic priest from the UK.  The error message read #666, bad luck! I never got my computer work right for the next five months.  I had to re-install alot and wipe it numerous times.

Here goes some of my discoveries (this post will be my last here, as I rather enjoyed being offline and unplugged for five months, only accessing the net for reference)--

There ARE multiple dimensions used and inhabited by psy-black-ops shadow govt. personel and higher densities/dimensions of the spirit and angelic realms (those truly in control, the Benevolent Ones are stronger and higher up, guardian-angels, saints, deceased spirits, and avatars, and finally the Christ Holy Spirit and Presence).

I have on occasion heard Nicole Kidman's voice and Meg Ryan's (I think I remember them in a photo together after just having coffee together). I heard Nicole's voice complain comically "come on!" outside my hotel room door at Niagara Falls in April.  I heard Bruce Willis' voice near Death Starr Valley exit in Nevada off I-80 (on a 14hr day trip from Mt.Shasta to Salt Lake City).  There were psy-ops following me and attempting to harass me with their large pick-up trucks.  At Mt. Shasta area, I stayed in a motel room which freaked me out- there was a device on the upper wall with antennas on it and it kept emitting blue flashes, while the voices I heard kept saying, we want you (to be confined to the alternate earth where the Nazi's won WWII), scary shite (to say the least), they claimed they would hurt my loved ones if I posted on the net again, I maintain and will not be deterred (though I plan to stay off the net after this post , mostly).  I feel even if they did torture of hurt or kill me or my loved ones, we will become martyrs and go DIRECTLY to a Benevolent Place/Heavenly abode (call me fanatical, I am a newly converted Christian now).

The voices could be coming from a more benevolent dimension/parallel earth, or from a future heavenly utopian place/dimension/refuge, or they Could be merely techno-mimics to confuse and deter.

I still see indigo and white flashes of light (dot blinks) (sgaileadh).  Usually coinciding with a good or notable thought or for inspiration.

After having a dream with Ingrid Bergman appearing on June 1st (Marilyn Monroe's 79th birthday anniversary), and it was coincidentally Ingrid Bergman month on TCM (Turner Classic Movies channel) and I then watched on June 28th, Europa 51, a Bergman, Ingrid, film where the impoverished people she helped (in the movie) call her a saint at the end.

I KNOW I am saintly and angelic more firmly now after travelling over 14,000 miles in a space of a few months.

I know Saint Origen claimed angels can incarnate into human form (at birth or in a flash), becoming either a benevolent human or a malevolent human (demon), and if successful, ascend again to become a benevolent angelic spirit.

I have found much comfort in the works of J.R.R. Tolkien (a devout Catholic), who although he stated his stories are not extended metaphor (allegory), that there are messages in his writings. The Valar/Ainur (Angels), Lesser Ainur/Valar- Maiar, Numenorians, Elves, Rangers, Istari/Wizards, and Hobbits (common innocent peoples).  I have an affinity with the Chieftan Dunedain Numenorian Rangers and the Maiar/istari.

When passing through the Canadian border near Thunder Bay Ontario, the security staff there (I overheard) said 'he's a psychic veteran'.  A weird bell rang at the same moment.

We can all strive to be saintly and angelic (and help others).

We need to practice the virtues of Faith, Hope, Charity (Love)...

morals and ethics and benevolence (in the face of violence and ill-will)...

Christ saves...

He is saving me from all the darkness afflicting me...

I heard a voice say (in an Irish accent), 'you made it sonny'.

My future is still uncertain as is the world's...

Let us pray that there will be Mercy and Compassion, lessened storms and natural disasters and no man made attacks/terrorism or reprisals, great or small.

Finally, I gave away (and threw some away) all my paranormal/ufo books (except 4).... to local libraries in the Seattle area, I kept Jim Marrs books-Alien Agenda and Rule by Secrecy (both a great overview and all you really need), and Alien Encounters by Chuck Missler (a Christian perspective) and the 1968 The Bible and Flying Saucers (are they angels masquerading as et's? or ets masquerading as angels, or both/mix).

I threw away and donated various David Icke books (I had them all, except the latest which I refused to support him any longer so never bought). Mr. Icke is filled with just enough truth to get you hooked (so much repeating of the same materials in each of his book with only a little new stuff).  He IS wrong about Jesus Christ being a myth.  The reading of his books threw me for a loop for four years, I had lost hope.  On my recent journeys I came to know the saints, angels (and their foes- the fallen angels/demons), Jesus, the Great Holy Spirit, and the mortal techno spies (psy/black ops), time-travellers-both kinds (spiritual and tech). I am finally free from an inaccurate mouthpiece.  If there is doubt, there is no doubt.  When you discover someone in a lie, you cannot trust much of what else they tell you.  My mother never liked the guy- said he was making a living off of fear, ego, and lies to sell books.  I may be kinda slow, but I finally figured out this guy is either intentionally misleading or unintentionally disinforming (I would hope the latter). I also distrust much of Stuart Wilde (as I have posted here back in January).

Enemies of Wisdom-
"There are three things that spoil wisdom: ignorance, inaccurate knowledge, and forgetfulness."
--ancient Irish triad (from the book The Celtic Spirit by Caitlin Matthews pg 347)

"How did you like stepping through the looking glass? Was it more fun than miniature golf?"--
Val Kilmer's 'Scott' from the film 'Spartan'.

second (better remembered) edit: I almost forgot to tell an integral component of my journey.  I was travelling north on Hwy 101 in Northern CA, and when I got close to Windsor (just north of Santa Rosa) and the great redwoods (near bohemian grove-allegedly a satanic gathering place) in April, the last thing I remembered was seeing a very strange man with a stoic look and long black coat (just like those depicted in the movie City of Angels) walking down the lonely hwy.  The next thing I know, I was past Garberville and near Eureka, over an hour missing time!  Maybe the good dimensionals let me enter a portal and thereby pass bohemian grove unmolested... weird to the extreme.  Then in Bandon OR, I was staying near Face Rock at a hotel, and they tried to gas me!  I felt noxious from the fumes... it all corresponded while I had been watching C-Span and possibly telepathically communicating with the (security, et?) people there (via an implant? or psychic power?). I know this all sounds bizarre, but within the context of all my experiences dating back to childhood and more importantly the recent past, I would have to say, I am here to show (example), saintlyness is attainable!

I made a couple final posts at the Revolving Doors II (Radiohead) website too.

I wanted to share some of my further findings on this path of mine.

I hope to have been of some service.

Good Luck (Abayo!), to all those here, in their searches for knowledge and hope in these troubled and disturbing times (the potential End Days?)...

Christ, the narrow path, saves those willing

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phew!  Well, stay safe and grounded.
(((((((Indigo)))))))

Never Give Up!

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Thanks Kathy (((hugs)))

I went to that website linked with your profile about giving up tv.

I must say this, that t.v. helps me escape ordinary (dull) reality, and I am addicted to it.  I am more selective though.  I have a Tivo now (a month now), that helps me be more selective by choosing only the shows I want to sift through the mass of gross tv shows (reality crap, media brainwashing, sensationalistic channels).  Although, I have discovered that Tivo just enables you to waste more time sifting and selecting.

I am mostly now a shut-in (after going on a manic-like roadtrip 14,000miles, whew!).

The medicine I was taking for a year allowed me to travel and sleep less (be more active and lose weight).  After a recent three weeks trying to let it work, I had to go back on my old med (that I took for a total of five years and which causes extreme weight gain, potential diabetes, high triglycerides and chronic fatigue).  Therefore (also in credit card debt again due to travel expenses-yet it was worth it, the journey i took), I am homebound now for the foreseeable future.

I think movies (dvd or theatrical) let us escape the problems we are stuck in (balance is needed, some time on the computer, some reading, some journal writing, some drifting, etc all can be overdone and need balance).  By projecting myself into a good worthwhile and entertaining movie, I can escape for two hours (I'm a dreamer! and poet!).

Thanks for responding.
--sincerely heartfelt, -indigo

Christ, the narrow path, saves those willing

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I also visited her website, and applaud her for her dedication to such a subject.  While I still have TV's in the home for watching occasional DVD's, I got rid of cable TV about a year and a half ago after coming to a similar realization.  Getting rid of it has allowed me to focus on MY life, REAL life, rather than envelop myself in a fantasy world.  Hiding behind your TV isn't living, it's hiding, and is largely a waste of time and energy.

Indigo, in your initial post you professed your dedication to strive to be saintly and angelic.  To help others.  To practice the virtues of Faith, Hope, Charity.  To live by morals and ethics and benevolence.  My question to you is this:  How can you do any of these things sitting in front of a TV?   Every minute you waste staring at that screen could be used to spend with family and friends.  To pursue knowledge. 

Honestly, I don't miss my TV at all, and I truly believe that I'm a better, more wholesome person than the TV zombie I once was.

5 (edited by freeme 2005-09-25 10:46:02)

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(((Indigo))),
Thanks.  It's not my intention with the website to tell people how to live their lives.  There is one thing you might wish to consider, though.  TV puts you into a susceptible alpha brainwave state.  This might make you more vulnerable to attacks of various sorts {insert subliminal you want to throw away your tv}.  It might also make it harder to stay grounded.  Rereading your post, I have to wonder why Meg Ryan, Bruce Willis, and Nicole Kidman were used {insert subliminal: turn off your tv};.  They would have no effect on me (Bono maybe wink ).  I am just disconnected from anything they might represent, although I might recognize their voices.   I wonder if there is a reason their voices were used.   Just speculating though.   It is your life.  I am not going to tell you how to live it {insert subliminal: get rid of your tv}. big_smile

About your efforts to be "saintly" and "angelic":  I think those words carry more baggage than they are worth.  You just need to be the best you that you can be.  That is enough.  "Saintly" and "angelic" are like boxes that can confine you, even if they are boxes with halos and wings.   Given your bizarre circumstances I would suggest avoiding any boxes.   The lack of hatred in your writing and your continued desire to help others in the face of what you have suffered say more than any halo ever could.  But that is just my opinion again.

I wish you the best, and I hope you stick around longer.
Kathy

Never Give Up!

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hey indigo! i remember you!

let me know if u need some new fresh music to listen to, seeing as u got rid of some.

smile

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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Thanks for the input Zonabi & Kathy & Ladyvixen,

Zonabi:  I am fine at the moment with what cd's I have.  I really got rid of a lot of the old dark/gothic ones... I feel more liberated from them now.

Kathy:  I understand what you are saying about giving up t.v.

It is something I could never do.

I am a dreamer, I find release in it.  I have a lavender/magenta aura/personality (dreamer).

Movies and music bring me joy and vicarious escape (by projecting myself into the hero's role in a movie).  I can find romance, action, comedy, compassion, strange new places/locales, etc...

There are worse addictions...

As far as staying here and posting or continued interplay, I had a difficult time just considering posting what I already have (my final follow up).

I want to get away from the whole new age, paranormal, speculation, spirituality subjects.

I will spend my future time saving up money (to travel far and wide on), reading plain spiritual books (no more paranormal), writing in my journals, someday again more poetry writing, watching t.v. and movies, listening to soothing music, surfing the internet (mostly reference), and maybe a few other activities....

I went to a concert for the first time (for about three years) the other night, Keane, a British soft-rock band.  I actually teared up in a couple songs (about romantic relationships).

I am not comfortable in the body I reside in.  I will never overcome dysmorphia (my body was young and healthy, and lean once upon a time).  I am not good at relationships (friends or girlfriends), I suppose I am too self-absorbed.  I WILL someday find my true love (on the other side, I feel she is waiting and watching there for me).

I will try to shirk the whole saintly/angelic mission/message kinda thing as best I can.

It IS who I FEEL myself to be, I will merely put it in the back of my mind and try to maintain a modesty about it.

If someone were to examine the entire context of my life so far, they would be truly astonished (as I am), yet, we must all face our demons and hang-ups.  Confront and overcome our dark/shadow sides and let the Light of Christ shine thru and cleanse us.

edit: some grammar corrections and I forgot to thank Ladyvixen for her input...

Christ, the narrow path, saves those willing

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I am a little supersticious these days (after many strange experiences lately).

So I would like to make this the seventh (a better number) reply.

On the nature of God.

I remember in some of my readings (Angels-an Endangered Species by Malcolm Godwin) that the Gnostics taught that certain religions (including Judeo-Christian) worship the wrong God, and that Jesus Christ was incorporeal (not literal, which I do not agree with), and that matter was inherently evil (which I also disagree with). Interesting heretical premises (from the more fundamentalist stances).

Maybe the fanatics (violent zealots) worship the wrong side or nature of God (The Great Spirit, or however one defines God with a capital G).  Carrying out violent acts which they believe serve a higher purpose.  Can God be both good and evil?  Or is there many gods (with lower g's) and one or two main Gods, one God-a merciful, benevolent, forgiving, just one, while the other a violent, wrathful, unforgiving one? Or is it duality (as the Star Wars mythos, to name one modern-day mythic invention, Light and Dark sides, good and evil?).

Is it like Iluvatar (a Tolkien invention) who created the Ainur, Valar, Maiar, Elves, Men, Hobbits?

With Melkor (Morgoth) the rebel Valar (Angel), and Sauron (his lieutenant).

Iluvatar representing the good (gud) God, and Morgoth representing Satan (Lucifer).

Extended metaphors (allegory) could be argued.

Are the Essenes any more accurate?  Are the Gnostics truly claiming heresy?

Not to mention all the other varied sects and cults... Christian or otherwise...

Do the Muslems and Judaic peoples (not to mention the Catholics and Protestants in Ireland and the US/UK) all worship the wrong God (Satan in the guise of a god?), or simply God's darker side?

I would like to think that Jesus Christ was the one true Son of God and that his teachings will lead us out of darkness (the tenets of tolerance, peace, compassion, virtues-faith, hope, charity, love, unconditional love...).

I truly now more firmly understand that the Christ Force or Presence is Real and Just.

After many journeys I have come to the understanding that Christ saves and protects and is the only path toward the Heavens (the only path that overcomes the seven deadly sins and other sins so numerable in our world of Earth today).  It is said there are many heavens (some even fake Satanic heavens and dimensions).  I don't know about you, but I would like to make it to a benevolent and good domain in the long run.  Like an old movie I watched one night on TCM tv channel, where the old man and his dog chat with an angel at the gates of heaven only to find out that his dog was right in barking and alerting him about that feeling that was just sorta off, maybe this is the wrong gate?  Later he finds a benevolent angel who tells him-- it's good you did not enter that gate... that was the gate to Hell.

So with that said (and to all whose religion is not Christian), I hope and pray there will be peace and tolerance no matter what particular faith you conform to (Pagan, Native American, Atheist, Agnostic, Judaic, Islamic, Hindu, Buddhist, Heathen, whatever) that you find what you are looking for in the long run (the long way home, or short if you're lucky).

-cloudkeen, indigo

Christ, the narrow path, saves those willing

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I am familiar with the argued existence of Jesus Christ (David Icke's claim, and the author Archaya's book).  Just because you write a book about Christ being a common type of myth (ancient Egyptian savior archetypes etc.), doesn't mean you are truly correct.  Anyone can write a book (especially one for which there is a market for, and which some people will believe in anything weird/bizarre, and arcane).

So what if there were other savior figures of which Christ resembles?  Maybe Jesus Christ came to fulfill the role of savior for real this time, while the others were merely attempts or fabrication to mislead people into believing- well you see, there were these other mythic archetype/saviors and they were merely inventions and never occured-so do don't believe the real thing when it comes along... ???  Intentional falsehoods to deceive people when the real one genuine Savior-Christ appears on the world stage.

One more point in regards to an actual Jesus Christ, why are there  numerous ancient paintings depicting strange aerial discoid objects in the background (one such object appears in a painting entitled 'The Crucifixion' from the 13th or 14th century)? I'll tell you, because there was a real miracle performing teacher and savior who really did manifest in our timelines to fulfill a genuine role(s).  There are time-travellers who have gone back in time to witness these events.  Heck, they follow me around everywhere I go to try and understand what they are dealing with, and the how's and why's that there are saints/avatars/holy people....on earth today (and in the old days as well).  Techno time travellers observing spiritual time travellers.  Everything is being recorded and studied in higher or parallel dimensions.  I answer to the ultimate records- the Akashic Record Halls (where all my deeds/actions/efforts/struggles are reviewed/shown/studied).  It is my understanding that a man known as Jesus Christ really did exist and perform miracles (miracles which could partly be explained if one knew that Christ had help from the trans-dimensionals/helpers- the angels (some et's? too?)).

I know many street people can seem very outrageous and loony with their over-zealousness, but what if they are ranting and raving because they strongly feel they are correct?  That the evildoers will be punished and held accountable someday.  That if they can save just one person, it will have been worth their efforts.

I used to subscribe to the view that Christ was an invention of the rich to give out false hope to the poor and suffering (you can't have a good life this time, but wait, you will be rewarded in the next life-heaven, always the next life, never this one --is something Icke was trying to relate, and I understand his new age stance-- it's better to be a hedonist and enjoy your present life, since that is all there possibly is... or rather make the best of this life --I understand his stance and he has a valid point, yet I attest that there are rewards for suffering and strugglings and good works and good words in the next life --a heavenly dimension of benevolence among other prior saints and former/present angels/spirits).

I am trying to relay the point that (after my own experiences and perception) Christ did exist and will continue to exist and play a valid/genuine role in humanity's course and future.

I do understand that there are many other avatars out there (Buddha, for example, and the prophet Mohammed), but I still understand that there is one narrow way to salvation, and that is understanding and practicing the teachings of Christ which are difficult yet attainable teachings-- faith (not blind faith, but a leap of faith), hope, charity, forgiving, non-violence, compassion for the poor and sick and struggling and meek, and unconditional love.  I used to believe there were numerous paths to God (the Great Holy Spirit), maybe one can find their way by following other avatars like Buddha, or Mohammed or Native American teachings.... I am merely saying that from my personal experience (after studying other paths) that Christ seems to be the one true path.

edit: some grammar corrections

Abayo! (Luck!)
--indigo

Christ, the narrow path, saves those willing

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Hey, indigo, I see where you're going with Christ fulfilling archetypes.  After all, archetypes resonate with us for a reason, and God would utilize those archetypes because they are universal human truths if God was trying to get through to us on our level.  I don't think God would send, say, a pig to save us because it wouldn't resonate positively with us and would be an abject failure.  So, I just want to say I see what you're saying with all that, before you guys start arguing over something that can't be proven one way or the other to the satisfaction of a non-believer (be it your opposition or you in that you insist that Jesus was real).  Go with what you believe if it makes you more whole, I say.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

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Yeah, you're right Haven, no point in arguing this topic.

I was trying to convey my newly confirmed understandings (without dogedly attempting to convert), my change of heart.

I understand it is difficult to teach some new found belief (which came about through experience and reflection) when those being spoken to have not had similar or perceived experiences.

I do convey that one can learn through direct experience and the subsequent reflection.

It is rather hard to convey to someone already entrenched and firm in their belief structure(s).

Peace and Hope, sincerely good wishes to all, -cloudkeen (indigo)

Christ, the narrow path, saves those willing

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indigo wrote:

After many journeys I have come to the understanding that Christ saves and protects and is the only path toward the Heavens

Oh Jesus! (Hey, if nothing else, it can certainly be a great cuss word wink )

One thing I've noticed is that there's two types of teachings. The teachings of Christ (regardless of whether he actually was real or not), and then there's the teachings of Christians. Rarely do they seem to bear much relation to each other.

You're spouting Christian drivel indigo. But nothing you've said bears much relation to anything Christ ever said. Not that we can ever know what Christ really said anyway. Because if you think the biblical gospels are an accurate portrayal of the life and teachings of the Jesus then you may as well believe in Santa Claus.

You speak of "Confirmed Understandings" but at the end of the day that means very little. The Matrix can quite easily 'confirm' anything it wants us to believe.

indigo wrote:

It is rather hard to convey to someone already entrenched and firm in their belief structure(s).

The fact that you said "I have come to the understanding that Christ saves and protects and is the only path toward the Heavens" shows that the only person here that's become entrenched in a belief structure is yourself. Don't you see that? Well of course not, because people firmly entrenched in belief structures never think that they are. Strange that.

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Preaching to the converted. Enlighten yourselves and you will raise the vibratory levels of the Universe! Our task is not to enlighten others through our insight, but raise our own awareness and thereby raise the ambiant frequency by that simple fact: we are all connected.

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Another thought.... I don't mean to hijack indigo's thread, but all this is right down the alley of what I learned from symbolic anthropology, especially what one of my proffesors spoke and wrote about. When I have the time, as I mentioned on another post (http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 602#p23602), I would like to type a bit of stuff up on it so we can all think/discuss about this without stepping in personal space.

I do believe the 'myth' of Jesus and many other myths are indeed symbolic, the purpose of which is to integrate into our being (individuation, archetypes; meditations on metaphor, form and vibration; transcendental consciousness, Christ or Buddha Consciousness; etc...). I will discuss one such process of integration later. I would like to state, however, that the symbolic nature of the 'savior myth' does NOT negate the actual existence of the figure. This is a hologram controled by our thoughts and emotions after all....

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Aya, that knife cuts both ways.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.