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Ok, After all that has been said. What Does the true creator think about all of this. Isn't there spiritual laws that tell all creations what they can or can't do with each other?
Ok, After all that has been said. What Does the true creator think about all of this.
Good question, what does the true creator think about all this?
Isn't there spiritual laws that tell all creations what they can or can't do with each other?
From my understanding of karma, it's not so much that a person can't do certain things, but that if you do certain things, for better or for worse, there will sooner or later be consequences.
These consequences can be seen as learning opportunities.
In my opinion there is a difference between what I call "natural karma" and "enforced karma".
When a being makes a certain choice and takes a certain action, that usually has an impact on the surroundings. When that same being then later exists somewhere in those surroundings again, wether in the same form or a new one, it is confronted by those surroundings and thus also by its own changes to it. If the being has done "bad" things and made the surroundings "worse", it will have to exist in those "worse" surroundings, et vice versa. "Surroundings" can mean any size and is not limited by the planetary border. Effects will not instantly change the entire surroundings, but instead will move like a ripple from their point of origin, speed depending on the kind of change that was made. This is what I would call "natural karma": sooner or later a being will encounter their own choices and actions again, and will have to live with the effects. This sounds like a fair system to me.
However, if a being makes a certain choice and takes a certain action that has been defined in some control system to be "bad" and if that control system then proceeds to "punish" the being for that choice/action, I would call that "enforced karma". A system employing enforced karma will generally masquerade as natural karma, and will claim being a fair system, and beings might fall for that trick and thus accept the system.
MysticQueen wrote:Isn't there spiritual laws that tell all creations what they can or can't do with each other?
From my understanding of karma, it's not so much that a person can't do certain things, but that if you do certain things, for better or for worse, there will sooner or later be consequences.
These consequences can be seen as learning opportunities.
Wow ! That's a very short but very powerful statement, I think.
Yes, I think also in these terms, it's the challenge to find out when a case
is to be seen as an opportunity, and when it's a case of simple learning.
There is something also be said that when a certain lesson is learnt, the karma
is gone, despite the activated cause or "wrong" act.
I wish, I was much more able to know how these mechanics can be monitored.
I've come across different conceptions of karma.
There are some traditions that view karma as an almost deific force -- in some forms of hinduism, for example, it is tied very close to conceptions of "duty" or "dharma". to do your duty is to bestow on oneself good karma and so forth.
Other traditions view karma as a more mechanistic force, similar to what wandering1 said. There are actions, then there will be counter-actions.
Still others think that karma is a force that teaches people what they need to know by placing them in certain situations over and over until they learn the "lesson" they are supposed to and spiritually progress.
As for your original question MysticQueen, I do not know if there is a univeral law that applies to all creations, nor do I no if it attaches to karma, but I would be interested to hear what you think!
SSE
My understanding is that at the highest levels, there are no rules. Except, perhaps, the idea that All is One, which is less like a law or rule and more just... the way it is in truth.
The concept of free will is basically the allowance to go against "the highest good of all", and there is no judgment or preference by Creator. Of course, the consequences are also perfectly acceptable to the Creator, but the acting consciousness must then deal with them... at some point.
Then there is "general rule", so to speak... my sense on that score is that there are those who create a universe from a conception to fruition. They have a certain "parentship" and can guide the consciousness invested in said Creation/paradigm... or not. But since All Is One, should they choose not to guide it, they too are then burdened by the resulting karmic fallout or consequences of all that results from consciousness investment in their Creation/paradigm.
When parentship wants to evolve, say because they feel all has been learned from the paradigm design and it's evolution, they can insert a Plan, and coordinate all to follow it. The Plan entails regaining full awareness of truth that was forgotten in order for the paradigm to work as a learning model. Once it's revealed in full consciousness... there's no more need for the school. At least... for those who choose to follow the plan and awaken.
And since they are the conceivors, all attracted to their Creation for participation are also reflections of them, part of them... themselves... (again, all is one) so there is no real "force" in adherence to the Plan. Of course, individuated consciousness that refuses to awaken has every right to, and contingencies are made for them, ever supporting the free will edict from the highest levels.
Or so I seem to understand from where I sit, if that made any sense. 
There is a level that is beyond our understanding where the One is in focus. There is no other. No action is external, only manifestations of what acts you'd accept done to yourself at different times and places.
Karma is the manifestation of energy that is created and stored for the purpose of identifying truth. Outside of the constraints of time, it is the best way to identify that which is and that which is not.
One way to look at it is through a song I heard a long time ago. The theme is the planet Earth talking to a man: "Come, you may stand upon my back and face your distant destiny, but seek no haven in my shadow, for I will give you no hiding place down here."
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