• From: istanbul
  • Registered: 2004-05-13

Topic: observations from "outside"

Hi all,

I couldn't find the chance to write to the forum till now, but it's just time. I'm so glad to find 125 people here with the same "frequency" that I look for so long smile

OK, first I must give you my apologies for possible repetitions in my future messages, because I couldn't find the chance to read all the messages. So some of my topics should possibly be discussed here before.

I was in New York last week (in fact came yesterday and dealing with a jet lag now). I had some observations as an "outsider" ;

- I love NYC, shining, full of action, never sleeping. Very Istanbul-like (if you haven't seen Istanbul, you would never guess what it is like. This city never sleeps and you can find everything here)! But this time I read the immigration form that one have to fill before entering USA. It writes "this form must be completed by every person except returning aliens who resides in US..." Whoa! Nice symbol!

- NYC is very beautiful again, but people are in deep sleep. Are they different than other parts of the world? Exactly not! But NYC is one of the sources, this is one of the cities that illusions are created anyway!

- I observed that aliens, ufos, abductions are very US-concepts. When you come to Turkey you'd see nearly nobody believes these - but wait! We have folk stories and beliefs about Jinns, Shaitans (devil), some celestial religion-based beings. Go a little further to the west and you reach to Balkans. What do we have here? Count Dracula myths? Vampires? Werewolfs?

- Now it's time to make some integration for me: I haven't been to South america or Africa, but I bet they have some very parallel myhts/beliefs and folk stories there too. So, we have some scattered hints and infos all over the world. Not surprisingly, these hints fit together very good.

- I began to read Bringers of the Dawn on the plane (it is 11,5 hours flight from Istanbul to New York!). Unbelieveable! It is already written everything that happened/happens to me in these last years. And maybe the years to come. I'm in the middle of the book and I feel I'll be surprised more in the second half of the book. I guess lots of you already read it. I found some other books from Marciniak on Amazon. In which turn would you suggest to read other books after Bringers..?

Best regards from Istanbul,
Ferit

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson
  • Registered: 2004-04-21

Re: observations from "outside"

Nice to see you, Ferit, and hear about Istanbul and your impressions of New York.  The US has really changed, so please take care.

The nature of reality and our part in it from Native American wisdom:
http://www.miguelruiz.com/agreements.html

  • From: Anywhere
  • Registered: 2004-05-21

Re: observations from "outside"

Absolutely.
I recently went to Miami (to escape the blizzard). It felt like a fairground...Sex fairground in that case. It seems like a small "world" in which people's perceptions are totally at odds with the rest of the world's ("Reality"?) and they seem totally oblivious to that fact. It was odd coming from Canada which is the exact opposite at that time of the year. It was very educating and quite fun to observe!

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4 Reply by wandering1 (edited by wandering1 2004-05-27 00:25:19)

  • Registered: 2004-04-01

Re: observations from "outside"

feritciva,

I really enjoyed reading Bringers of the Dawn.  I also read Earth and Family of Light by Marciniak, and they do contain some interesting information, but I found that Bringers of the Dawn had the biggest impact on me.

If you are asking what to read next, I can suggest  "The Wave Series"
by Laura Knight-Jadczyk.

It's free and can be found on the Internet here:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/waveindex.htm

Parts of the Wave series go into the "Dark" side of reality, so be ready.

Also, sometimes I tend to focus on just the channeled material and skip some of the other stuff.  You can tell which is the channeled material because it is formatted differently than the other material.

Also, Montalk has recommended books listed here: http://www.montalk.net/

I liked God's Gladiators by Stuart Wilde and Allies of Humanity by Marshall Vian Summers.

In addition, another  book which I liked (which is not on that list) is "Nothing in this Book is True, but It's Exactly How Things Are" by Bob Frissel.

If you are interested in Bible prophecy, I think that "The Late Great Planet Earth" by Hal Lindsey is a good primer.

A good way to get a feel for a book that you are thinking about reading is to look at the summaries and reviews on Amazon.com.

5 Reply by aaronfirebrand

  • aaronfirebrand
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Re: observations from "outside"

Wandering1, I must strongly object to Hal Lindsey's work being recommended to anyone interested in Bible prophecy, since much of his writing is contrary to scripture. Ditto for Tim LaHaye (the Left Behind garbage), or most popular "christian" writers. Get a copy of Wendy Wallace's 'Four Horsemen' (a color-coded key to the cryptocracy) if you can find one. She has some online articles at paranoiamagazine.com. Henry Makow (savethemales.ca) has some interesting insights. I also think Texe Marrs has some good stuff. I happen to view 1984 by Orwell to be a very good study of things to come. Be very careful what you believe. When he was asked by his disciples what the signs of his return would be, Jesus' reply included three warnings to not be deceived.

  • From: istanbul
  • Registered: 2004-05-13

Re: observations from "outside"

Wandering1,

Thank you for your suggestions.

I already found wave series & began to read it. I'm around 12th part of the material. It has some very interesting info in it. I wrote this to Tom recently, I've found great info on quantum philosophy once (back in 95-96) from a web site and sent messages to the founder of the site. He answered me back and gave me some more info on quantum physics. And when I began to read Wave material I realized that he is husband of Laura K.Jadczyk! Good "coincidence" here!


I found God's Gladiators in a book store in NYC and it get my attention. I also read some messages about Stuart Wilde here on the forum. I'm familiar with David Icke but I didn't hear Wilde before. Can anyone tell me his background and work?

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson
  • Registered: 2004-04-01

Re: observations from "outside"

Perhaps other people will have more to say on Stuart Wilde's background.  From my perspective, I see him as a seeker of truth.  I personally think that he is getting somewhere.  He has definitely had some interesting experiences.

I do not agree with everything that he says, however.  In particular, he seems to think that the Mayans are an extinct group.  From my research, there are quite a few Mayans left.  Certainly in the thousands and by some accounts quite a few more.  I think he is exposing his ignorance when he writes about them.  But in many other areas, I find his perspective interesting.  He also seems to be a polarizing individual- people tend to  either like him or really not like him.

8 Reply by BlackBox

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Re: observations from "outside"

wandering1 wrote:

I do not agree with everything that he says, however.  In particular, he seems to think that the Mayans are an extinct group.  From my research, there are quite a few Mayans left.

Pleidieans call the Mayans the "Keepers of Time".

I agree with you not concuring with SW. It is ridiculous to think they are "extinct" when time parallels in quantum mechanics cannot be ignored.

For instance: In another parallel world, Atlantis NEVER destroyed itself. The cosmic attacks faded also. In this parallel world, Atlantis self-observed itself and its power-hungry search to oblivion, and STOPPED. So in theory, 2004 Atlantis exists, even though I doubt it is 2004, but rather another time-chart that has existed since then, or probably even before. Or so the Pleidieans say. In the upcoming shift, however, all realms/realities merge in one way or another.

So if SW only looks straight at one reality, then he's making some errors in perspective/discernment. Or maybe I'm just a fool, because I think parallel realities have strong effects on each other. Nothing is separate. Perhaps storms, hurricanes, and other natural or cosmic events are triggered by parallel realities.

"Where da hell did dat tornado come from, Pah?"

  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: observations from "outside"

Wull yungin', 't came frm that bunch o' Mayun Injuns ovr' thr, r' sumpn!


                                                                                          Pa


P.S. I reckon' th' ol' Ranger wuz wrong 'bout havn' kill'd  'm all off.

10 Reply by wandering1 (edited by wandering1 2004-05-27 17:20:08)

  • Registered: 2004-04-01

Re: observations from "outside"

SednaSphere- Well done!

BlackBox - I think that it is entirely possible that there are Mayans who are able to move at will between time, space, dimensions, and worlds.

I was actually referring to something much more mundane and literal, namely that there flesh and blood people alive today who are Mayans.  Some sites, such as this one: http://www.nativeamericans.com/Mayan.htm
say that there are more than 4 million of them.  They live near the area where they lived previously - in the Southern Mexico, Guatemala, Belize region.