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FEMA pushing relief donations  Pat Robertsons way.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?f … 1125614863

Robertson was forced to apologise recently for calling for the assasination of Venuezula president Hugo Chevez.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/24/robertson.chavez/

This wicked man (satanic NWO initiate IMO) could be arrested in many countries for his incitement to religous hatred.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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zonabi wrote:

can someone shoot me some links discussing the funding of the levies repairs being cut in order to spend more $$$ in iraq?

thanx

Zonabi -- I found the article today. 

http://www.alternet.org/story/24871/

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What's weird to me is the "head in the clouds" mentality some of these media sources seem to have in regards to the idea of New Orleans making a comeback.   The city is still flooded out, with hundreds / thousands of dead bodies lying around or floating about that have been sitting out for 5 days now, and yet we have this article:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/03/katrin … index.html

discussing future tourism, conventions, and getting "dollars flowing" back into the city.  !!

I'm thinking they need to worry first about gathering up all those dead bodies, getting the live people evacuated out, and pumping the millions of gallons of sewage / garbage / gas and oil / chemical and disease laden water out of the city first before getting concerned about tourism and dollar flowage!

Our culture is just so messed up in so many ways.  In the midst of tragedy, concern lies with money.  It reminds me of watching the second WTC tower collapse on t.v.   While it was going down, I felt a sense of panic inside at all the people who were still in the building.   Inside my mind I screamed out "NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and sat there completely shocked and numb after watching that.  Meanwhile, the newscaster narrator started going off about "I can't imagine the New York skyline WITHOUT the World Trade Centers in it!  These are landmark bulidings, they define the New York skyline and now they're gone!   There will be no more skyline with the World Trade Centers in it..."  That was his first immediate reaction right as the towers were falling.    What the skyline would look like now without these bulidings.  Not the people inside.   And while the New Orleans thing isn't exactly on that level, it's still bizarre in so many ways that there are people voicing their concerns about tourism and money and stuff, when the city has pretty much been destroyed for the most part.  80% of it was under water.   That leaves only 20% as being "salvageable".........maybe.    Maybe.  It's just so head-in-the-clouds I think.   Let's take things one step at a time.  First things first.  There's a line between being optimistic and then having one's head in the sky and not seeing the situation for what it is.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Christine B. wrote:
zonabi wrote:

can someone shoot me some links discussing the funding of the levies repairs being cut in order to spend more $$$ in iraq?

thanx

Zonabi -- I found the article today. 

http://www.alternet.org/story/24871/

a great many thanks! this is the kind of news that can kickstart some brains!

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

110 (edited by Lakme 2005-09-04 05:41:08)

Re: Katrina, New Orleans, Biloxi, etc.

Makow's (www.savethemales.ca) take on what's happening.  I find his observations to be always interesting, and right on target for the most part.

DJ


Henry Makow wrote:

Makow - New Orleans:
The Strategy For
World Government
Devastation, Degradation, Demoralization
By Henry Makow PhD
9-3-5

Three of the worst catastrophes in American history have taken place during George W. Bush's watch. Is this a coincidence?
 
They are Sept. 11, the Iraq War and the devastation of New Orleans.
 
The purpose is to shock, degrade and demoralize Americans so they will accept the loss of national sovereignty.
 
The agent of the Illuminati bankers, the Council on Foreign Relations, is demanding "an economic union" of Canada, Mexico and the United States by 2010. This is but a stage in the Illuminati's long-term plan to impose their dictatorship upon the world.
 
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?ch
annelid=67&contentid=2298&page=2
 
As you know, George W. Bush is a member of one of the Illuminati's oldest chapters in America, the Skull and Bones Society.
 
http://www.savethemales.ca/000166.html
 
Unbeknownst to Americans, the United States belongs to the Illuminati, a satanic secret society directing Freemasonry. Their symbol, the pyramid and "all seeing" eye, is on the U.S. one-dollar bill. So is the year 1776, which refers to May 1, their anniversary, not July 4 as people think. The symbol was put on the dollar by FDR, a 32 degree mason. Most American presidents, cabinet members and congressional leaders are Freemasons and/or members of the CFR.
 
Foreign bankers sponsor the Illuminati and control us through their monopoly on credit. Our money is created in the form of a debt that the government owes to them, plus interest. Taxpayers are on the hook to the tune of $140,000 for every man, woman and child. Americans are being readied for a debtors' prison i.e. the New World Order.
 
I appreciate that this sounds outlandish to the uninitiated. However history can be understood in terms of an all-powerful clique based in the City of London that actively seeks the degradation and enslavement of humanity through war, "revolution," sickness, starvation, depression, and now "natural" disaster.
 
New Orleans
 
I don't know how the levees were sabotaged but I do know that this fits perfectly into the Illuminati agenda.(Similarly, I didn't know how JFK Jr.'s plane was sabotaged until recently.)
http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/PurgeTheEvil.htm
 
Last weekend, I commented on how an exhibit at the London Zoo encourages people to think of themselves as animals. After the hurricane, the Drudge Report referred to New Orleans' residents Sept 2 with this main headline: "Trapped Like Animals."
 
Everything seems designed to deprive Americans of their sense of entitlement, and their belief in themselves, their country and government.
 
I'm sure you noticed how the media played up comparisons between the aftermath of devastation and "a third world country." These scenes "resemble refugee camps in Somalia or Iraq," reporters kept repeating.
 
In an emergency, speed is of the essence. As you know, help was very slow in coming. Thousands were drowning, stranded, hungry or sick. There were helicopters but remarkably few rescue boats which would have made a difference.
 
Agent provocateurs may have been planted to shoot at rescuers: Coast Guard Lieutenant Commander Cheri Ben-Iesan said, "there are people just taking pot-shots at police and at helicopters, telling them, 'You better come get my family."
 
Why would anyone shoot at potential rescuers? These provocateurs caused rescue efforts to be suspended and provided an excuse to declare martial law.
 
Governor Kathleen Blanco called them "hoodlums" and issued a warning: Hundreds of National Guard troops hardened on the battlefield in Iraq have landed in New Orleans.
 
"They have M-16s and they're locked and loaded," she said. "These troops know how to shoot and kill, and they are more than willing to do so, and I expect they will."
 
Thus a disaster is turned into a proving ground for martial law.
 
My Houston correspondent writes: "Houstonians I've spoken with are only concerned that looting may transfer here and affect them personally. People are locking down their houses even tighter, and I've heard at least one man remark, 'I've got my Smith and Wesson .44 in my truck.' Stupid Americans are primed to demand martial law!"
 
He continues: "My next prediction: burglaries, lootings, shootings, and/or arson incidents will happen in Houston and Atlanta. The media will attribute it to New Orleans refugees, and the "shoot to kill" order will extend to these cities police and special police, if not be accompanied by the arrival of Federal (Storm)Troops."
 
Looting would have been limited by a strong rescue response. Americans rightly expect to be protected in times of emergency. But even some local police were seen looting or simply quit.
 
"They indicated that they had lost everything and didn't feel that it was worth them going back to take fire from looters and losing their lives," Colonel Henry Whitehorn said.
 
Whether it's Iraq, (a gratuitous war America is predestined to lose,) or Sept. 11 or New Orleans, Americans are betrayed by their leaders, abandoned, humiliated and even killed.
 
This is not an accident. It is part of a relentless process of demoralization designed to make them accept world government.
 
Hollywood plays a part of this relentless attack on the American psyche. The scenes in New Orleans resemble those in the film "Day After Tomorrow" where the country freezes over and Americans rush the Mexican borders pleading to be allowed in.
 
CONCLUSION
 
Wars, depressions and "natural" disasters are going to continue as long as foreign bankers control America's finances, and with it her political and cultural institutions.
 
They need to destroy, degrade and demoralize us so we will accept their world government. They have to subjugate us because otherwise we will repudiate the debt, money (credit) they created out of nothing. 
 
They weaken us by corrupting us. The stock market keeps millions focused on money while the media bombards us with sex, violence, social engineering and propaganda.
 
America cries out to purge the organized evil that lurks within.
 
What can we do? We must refuse to be demoralized or degraded. Let's make an extra effort to be kind and en-couraging, to treat each other like brothers and sisters. 
 
Nothing aggravates the Illuminati more than Jesus' admonition: "Love thy neighbor."

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Well, I knew this one was coming.........Mayor to force evacuations of last remaining holdouts in New Orleans.


NEW ORLEANS - Soldiers coaxed some of Hurricane Katrina's stubborn holdouts from their homes Wednesday after the mayor ordered all 10,000 or so residents still in this ruined city evacuated - by force, if necessary – because of the risk of fires and disease.

"I haven't left my house in my life. I don't want to leave," said a frail-looking 86-year-old Anthony Charbonnet, shaking his head as he locked his front door and walked slowly backwards down the steps of the house where he had lived since 1955.

Charbonnet left only after a neighbor assured him: "Things will be OK. It'll be like a vacation." Still protesting, Charbonnet stepped into the ambulance in which soldiers from the Army's 82nd Airborne Division would take him to a helicopter.

As floodwaters began to slowly recede with the first of the city's pumps returning to operation, Mayor C. Ray Nagin instructed law enforcement officers and the U.S. military late Tuesday to evacuate all holdouts for their own safety. He warned that the fetid water could spread disease and that natural gas was leaking all over town.

As of midday Wednesday, there were no reports of anyone being removed by force.

"We have thousands of people who want to voluntarily evacuate at this time," Police Chief Eddie Compass said. Once they all are out, he said, "then we'll concentrate our forces on mandatory evacuation."

The stepped-up evacuation came as workers struggled find and count the corpses decaying in the 90-degree heat. Even when cadaver dogs pick up a scent, workers frequently cannot get at the bodies without heavy equipment. The mayor has estimated New Orleans' death toll could reach 10,000.

The enormity of the disaster became ever-clearer: State Rep. Nita Hutter said 30 people died at a flooded-out nursing home in Chalmette, just outside New Orleans. She said the staff left the elderly residents behind in their beds. And more than 100 people died at a dockside warehouse, waiting for rescuers to ferry them to safety, said Rep. Charlie Melancon, whose congressional district includes the area.

Meanwhile, firefighters battled blazes around New Orleans – an emerging threat in a city where the water pressure is too low to fight fires and where many people are using candles because of the lack of electricity. At the same time, workers returning to restart essential services came under sniper fire.

"We have got some information where, some possible shooters have been shooting at some employees trying to get in to the city to actually get it back up and running," police Sgt. Charlie Smith said.

"Well, we found a bunch of abandoned buildings and we are actually going to go ahead and try to retrieve some of these Ak-47s assault rifles that they have been using to shoot at helicopters and some of the people trying to get back into the city to get it back up and running."

Nagin's everyone-out directive – which superseded an earlier, milder order to evacuate made before Hurricane Katrina crashed ashore Aug. 29 – came after rescuers scouring New Orleans found hundreds of people ignoring warnings to get out.

Several residents said they heard Nagin's latest order on portable radios and were reluctantly complying.

Dolores Devron and her husband, Forcell, finally agreed to go. Dolores Devron said she was relieved the couple were allowed to take their dog with them but angry they were ordered out.

"There are dead babies tied to poles and they're dragging us out and leaving the dead babies. That ain't right!" she screamed, waving her arms as she was directed onto a troop carrier truck.

Picola Brown, 47, hobbled slowly down the street on her crutches. She said she had not been able to leave because a truck ran over her left foot shortly before the storm struck, breaking a toe.

"The mayor said everybody's got to go. I got ready. I just don't want them knocking on my door," she said.

"Where do you want to go?" asked a soldier from the 82nd Airborne Division.

She answered, "Wherever it's comfortable."

Patricia Kelly, 41, sat under a tattered, dirty green-and-white-striped patio umbrella in front of an abandoned barber and beauty shop in the devastated Ninth Ward. Her home was flooded; she was not able to get back in, but did not want to leave the neighborhood.

"I'm going to stay as long as the Lord says so," Kelly said. "If they come with a court order, then we'll leave. I hope it doesn't get to the point where we're forced out."..........


http://news.yahoo.com/fc/world/hurrican … cal_storms

Oh, but it will. 

I have mixed feelings about this.  I understand that the government feels it's protecting the people by getting them out of an area that has the potential to explode with disease, as well as the fire hazard and threat from natural gas leaks.  But at the same time, there are people that don't want to go, and shouldn't that be their choice?  Often times they own their homes.   And they know they're putting themselves at risk by staying in their home....but that's their choice. They have made a decision to tough it out, and see what happens.  In a way, they have nothing to lose.  So why not stay, you know?    One guy I was reading about said he had food and water for a month, a working generator, and his dogs.  In his opinion, he had no reason to go to wherever they wanted to take him.   

Which segues to...another issue coming out is that there a lot of people who aren't willing to leave because the shelters that would be taking them in won't accept their pets.   I found that to be pretty admirable, as well as emotional, to read.   I understand that mentality totally.  I made a decision back in Florida that I wouldn't go to a shelter in the event of mandatory evacuation, because they wouldn't take my cat.  "Guess I'll be riding out a storm at home with Kitty!"  I thought.  If the roof blows off and she blows away, at least she'll blow away with me holding on!  big_smile   But yeah, they weren't talking about the pets situation during the first 2 or 3 days after the hurricane struck.  I was wondering what happened to people's pets.   Finally they began talking about it, and it's just a really sad situation.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Word is they're now expelling the press from NO.  That can't be good.

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hopefully some of the press will grow a spirit and PRESS ON to stay and cover these issues. renegade press! im hoping that they see whats going on, feel their hearts sink, and decide to fight. to show us whats going on.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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I haven't seen evidence that the media is being expelled.  Could be they're only allowing the "embedded" reporters.

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Well, there's something they're definitely expelling from New Orleans... they're pumping out all that standing water (toxic?) and dumping it back into the gulf. We've had a real problem in the west coast gulf waters for a few months now, a red tide condition that I've heard has poisoned the coastal gulf floor something like 10 inches deep.

I don't know what else they're supposed to do with all that contaminated water, but I hate to think about the implications, especially given the red tide problem we're already experiencing in this area  sad .

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Soloflecks wrote:

I haven't seen evidence that the media is being expelled.  Could be they're only allowing the "embedded" reporters.

This is how one reporter and his photographer from Toronto's Star newspaper were treated:

http://tinyurl.com/8ps72

Sep. 2, 2005. 02:19 PM
TIM HARPER
WASHINGTON BUREAU

New Orleans on a hair-trigger
Star duo caught in crossfire between police and gunmen
'Stop the car right now,' reporter told. `Back up, or I'll shoot'

NEW ORLEANS - I wheeled the car around and headed back to the scene of the shooting, looking for Toronto Star photographer Lucas Oleniuk, when the officer turned, spotted me and pointed the shotgun right at the windshield.

"Stop the car right now. Back up, or I'll shoot," he screamed.

A couple of others cocked their weapons and trained their guns on the car, purpose in their eyes.

Instinctively, I raised my hands above the wheel and gunned the Pontiac in reverse over fallen tree limbs and debris in the street.

This was our indoctrination into a Big Easy that'll never make a picture postcard.

Minutes earlier, as Oleniuk and I first saw downtown New Orleans looming after a long odyssey to get into the locked-down city, he shouted at me to stop when he spotted armed officers crouched behind a cruiser, training their guns on an apartment block.

His welcome to the besieged city came the second he left the vehicle when three shots rang out – a quick "pop-pop-pop." Oleniuk stumbled behind a lamppost for protection and began shooting photos.

In seconds, as many as 40 officers sped to the scene, most in marked cars – but one in a Kinko's van – some of whom set up behind Oleniuk, their guns aimed over his left shoulder.

Others, guns drawn, shouted at me to get out of the way.

Realizing he was in the line of fire, Oleniuk raced for cover behind a cruiser and worked alongside a group of police as they fired into the building.

After 15 minutes, the last of more than 350 images shot by Oleniuk depicted officers delivering a fierce beating to the two suspects, an assault so fearsome one of the suspects defecated.

Realizing their frontier justice had been captured for posterity, the police turned on the photographer, one ripping a camera from his neck with such force it broke its shoulder strap.

Another grabbed a second camera and, somewhere in the melee, Oleniuk's press pass was ripped from his neck.

The officers fumbled with the cameras, finally pulling out the memory cards with the photos.

Oleniuk pleaded for the return of his cameras, was rebuffed, then, after retreating about a block, approached them again and asked for his cameras back.

One of the officers who had been hunkered down with Oleniuk during the 15-minute shootout said he could have his cameras, but when he asked again for his pictures, he was gruffly told: "If you don't get your ass out of here, I'm going to break your motherf---ing jaw."

In the chaos that is New Orleans, police menacingly pointed loaded weapons at me four times, and Oleniuk and I watched later when four officers armed with machineguns, after first demanding to know where we were going, turned on an approaching cab and screamed at the Hispanic driver to get his hands off the wheel or they'd open fire. When he wouldn't do so immediately, it appeared for a split second that he would be shot on the spot.

Mercifully, his shaky hands finally appeared above the dash.

Because New Orleans is under martial law, police need no reason to stop and search anyone or pull them off the street. There's no doubt they see journalists as an impediment to their efforts to regain control of their city. But they have also been shot by snipers and looters in the nighttime chaos, and anyone who drives through this city these days knows what it's like to get a little twitchy.

As one navigates ravaged New Orleans from the east, through Kenner and Jefferson Parish, past the airport and toward the French Quarter, driving flooded streets till the filthy water gets too deep, then trying alternate routes, it is the human toll, not the physical toll, which worsens.

First, there is a single barefoot man walking aimlessly along Airline Highway. Then others slogging through the floodwaters of Metairie. Then families trudging dispiritedly along the roads of Kenner. Then, by the time you get to Napoleon and St. Charles in New Orleans, close to 100 sit silently in the middle of debris, watching the strange car navigate among the downed trees in their neighbourhood.

Later, down St. Charles, some try to stop you to ask for rides – "I have a baby ..." – others glare sardonically, while others peer at the car blankly.

Through downtown, toward the French Quarter, the refugees congregate in groups of 10 or 20. Some have guns, some have crowbars or iron bars, and, mindful of carjackings, you dispense with the hurricane etiquette of treating darkened intersections as four-way stops.

When you park on Canal St. to get a sense of the enormity of the refugee flow as people come down the Interstate overpass, many pushing shopping carts or luggage racks, you sense the desperation. You park close to where others are parked and you regret that you can't pack them all in your backseat and get them out of there.

And you wonder where the relief workers are.

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Oh..........my....................God.   !   Check out this 2004 National Geographic article which predicted to a T the future catastrophe of New Orleans getting hit by a hurricane.   I can't get over the details.  I suppose a lot of it's common sense, but the fact that they nailed everything down to the littlest detail is just absolutely eery and incredible.

Eery Creepy Prophetic Article wrote:

It was a broiling August afternoon in New Orleans, Louisiana, the Big Easy, the City That Care Forgot. Those who ventured outside moved as if they were swimming in tupelo honey. Those inside paid silent homage to the man who invented air-conditioning as they watched TV "storm teams" warn of a hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico. Nothing surprising there: Hurricanes in August are as much a part of life in this town as hangovers on Ash Wednesday.

But the next day the storm gathered steam and drew a bead on the city. As the whirling maelstrom approached the coast, more than a million people evacuated to higher ground. Some 200,000 remained, however–the car-less, the homeless, the aged and infirm, and those die-hard New Orleanians who look for any excuse to throw a party.

The storm hit Breton Sound with the fury of a nuclear warhead, pushing a deadly storm surge into Lake Pontchartrain. The water crept to the top of the massive berm that holds back the lake and then spilled over. Nearly 80 percent of New Orleans lies below sea level–more than eight feet below in places–so the water poured in. A liquid brown wall washed over the brick ranch homes of Gentilly, over the clapboard houses of the Ninth Ward, over the white-columned porches of the Garden District, until it raced through the bars and strip joints on Bourbon Street like the pale rider of the Apocalypse. As it reached 25 feet (eight meters) over parts of the city, people climbed onto roofs to escape it.

Thousands drowned in the murky brew that was soon contaminated by sewage and industrial waste. Thousands more who survived the flood later perished from dehydration and disease as they waited to be rescued. It took two months to pump the city dry, and by then the Big Easy was buried under a blanket of putrid sediment, a million people were homeless, and 50,000 were dead. It was the worst natural disaster in the history of the United States.

When did this calamity happen? It hasn't–yet. But the doomsday scenario is not far-fetched. The Federal Emergency Management Agency lists a hurricane strike on New Orleans as one of the most dire threats to the nation, up there with a large earthquake in California or a terrorist attack on New York City. Even the Red Cross no longer opens hurricane shelters in the city, claiming the risk to its workers is too great.

"The killer for Louisiana is a Category Three storm at 72 hours before landfall that becomes a Category Four at 48 hours and a Category Five at 24 hours–coming from the worst direction," says Joe Suhayda, a retired coastal engineer at Louisiana State University who has spent 30 years studying the coast. Suhayda is sitting in a lakefront restaurant on an actual August afternoon sipping lemonade and talking about the chinks in the city's hurricane armor. "I don't think people realize how precarious we are," Suhayda says, watching sailboats glide by. "Our technology is great when it works. But when it fails, it's going to make things much worse."

The chances of such a storm hitting New Orleans in any given year are slight, but the danger is growing.  Climatologists predict that powerful storms may occur more frequently this century, while rising sea level from global warming is putting low-lying coasts at greater risk. "It's not if it will happen," says University of New Orleans geologist Shea Penland. "It's when."........

Read the rest here:
http://www3.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0410/feature5/


Okay, tell me THAT ain't creepy....................................

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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118 (edited by lyra 2005-09-10 14:49:41)

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....................and on a further note, adding more articles I just came across............

Earlier in this thread I was talking about having a survivalist mentality, and that you have to do whatever you can do in a situation like Katrina to get yourself out and away from a "troubled area", to put it nicely.  I was scratching my head wondering why so many of the people of New Orleans didn't seem to be doing that, and from our perspective, were "content" to just camp out on the highways and mill about the shattered city.  I was like, DAMN!  If that were me, I'd begin hiking it out of that city, on foot, hitching rides, doing whatever it took to get out.

Now it's being revealed that the people of New Orleans WEREN'T ALLOWED OUT.   They were deliberately held, often times at GUN POINT, by the military and cops of New Orleans.   Those pictures I posted earlier in this thread of all the people herded onto the 10 freeway, under the overpass?   They were led their through lies..........they were promised, with a cop swearing and giving his word..........that if they went there, there would be busses waiting to ferry them out of the city.   When they got there though, there was NOTHING.   And other cops laughed at them and told them that the cop lied to get them to move and get out of the way.

The cops / military also confiscated their water and food, and threatened them at gunpoint, firing up into the air, to move it along.   And helicopters hovered over their make-shift camp, so the force of the wind would blow away all their plastic tarps they had set up.

There's more, and I could rant for hours, but here are the articles, so you can just read for yourself:

http://www.rense.com/general67/people.htm
http://news.monstersandcritics.com/nort … 047143.php


I said earlier that stuff was going to be revealed over time about what really went on down there, and that it would be best to not get all riled up about it when the truth does come out.  Well, it's easier said then done.  I got PISSED reading these articles, really upset.   And I don't post them to pass that energy along, it's more or less to correct my earlier assumptions about the people not doing enough on their end to get out of the city.   Wrong.........they did everything they could.  The cops wouldn't LET them out.   We need to be aware of this.   In the even that more "stuff" ever happens in the coming years, this is what we can most likely expect.  A LOT of interference and deliberate corraling and herding of the people into one place;  cutting off and outright confiscation of food and water;  cops and military turning their heads and looking the other way and outright refusing to help, and telling the people "That's your problem", as you'll see in one of the articles above.   

There was one bit of uplifting news in the first Rense article, which was the commraderie and community that people demonstrated with helping each other out.   Sharing food and water, and just helping each other along in general, doing whatever they could.  Kind of gives one hope about humanity, that maybe humans aren't as bad as we've been conditioned to believe. 

Knowledge protects........................

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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I think this is one of the best of the recent channeled messages dealing with Katrina.  What it says about the increase in irrationality certainly fits with the weirdness of how the military were acting in New Orleans, as described in Lyra's previous post.

And, no kidding about what the Hathors say re the challenge of staying positive through all of this...

The Hathors through Tom Kenyon "A Path Through These Turbulent Times"

Hathors.9.8.05

As we indicated in December of last year, there will be a continual
rise in the number and intensity of hurricanes. There will also be an
increase in the intensity and the number of typhoons and tornadoes.

From our perspective, we would not consider it wise for those who are
displaced from the Gulf States to return to sea level, and this
recommendation would extend all the way to the Mexican border and
through Florida.

As we have previously indicated it would be good to have extra food
and water on hand, wherever you are located.

We do not see the collective consciousness reaching a place so that
the climatic and Earth changes can be stabilized in the near future.

Many of you are currently experiencing an increase in sleep
disturbances, waves of irrational thought, and volatile emotions. We
do not see these phenomena decreasing in the near future either. As
spiritually aware individuals you must find a path through these
turbulent times. You are just at the beginning of what is to occur,
unless it is mitigated by the elevation of the collective
consciousness. Again, we return to the simplicity of appreciation and
ecstasy as means to ride through the storm.

We have said much about this previously (please see previous
postings), and we will not go into it here, other than to say this: Do
not be seduced by the seeming terror of events. They are certainly
real. However, succumbing to fear and paranoia will not serve you.
Only the higher vibrational fields of emotion and spiritual
realization can help.

The "wave mechanics of consciousness" that we addressed earlier (in
previous postings), especially in regard to interstellar energies, are
on the increase. Indeed, is it as if a bell has been struck and is
being struck repeatedly. There are those who say that this bell is the
harbinger of the end times and that there is nothing that can be done
to stop the purification.

From our perspective there are no certainties, only possibilities and
probabilities. And, yes, if the collective vibration does not rise,
then you can expect ever intense climatic and Earth changes, but these
can be decreased and even averted, even at the 12th hour, for it all
has to do with consciousness. Let us say that it would be wise to
operate in your life as if this elevation of collective consciousness
will not take place. Plan accordingly. And yet even as you plan for
your safety and that of your loved ones, make the paradoxical choice
to live upward in joy, appreciation, and ecstasy, even if those around
you are experiencing horror, sadness, anger and loss. We cannot stress
this enough.

It is an act of spiritual mastery to choose a life that is joyful,
even in the midst of great difficulty. This passageway, through joy,
appreciation, and ecstasy is the only sure way to a higher spiritual
vibration. And in the end, it is your vibration that shall determine
where you will go and what will happen.

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