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Topic: Aspartame it just gets worse

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ASPARTAME DISEASE RAGES, INTERACTS WITH ALL DRUGS, VACCINES AND TOXINS.

When aspartame was news, Dr. H. J. Roberts in a press conference foretold that in 5 or 10 years we would have a global plague. And it was Dr. Roberts who declared Aspartame Disease to be a global plague and published the medical text in 2001, Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic, www.sunsentpress.com or 1 800 827 7991.
His chapter on drug interaction goes into Coumadin, Dilantin, antidepressants and other psychotropic agents, Inderal, Aldomet, hormones and insulin. He says aspartame interacts with all cardiac medication and even discusses drug reactions after the cessation of aspartame.

In his general considerations he discusses that aspartame may either reduce or potentiate drug action by various mechanisms. He lists a few of the possibilities.

* Alteration of the blood proteins to which drugs attach.
* Alteration of drug receptors on cell membranes.
* Changes in the sites at which impulses are transmitted along nerves and to muscle.
* Metabolic abnormalities in the elderly that are known to enhance their vulnerability to drug reactions (Weber l986). This problem increases in the case of persons taking multiple drugs ("polypharmacy") prescribed by several physicians.
* Interference with drug action by amino acids and protein. An example is the erratic therapeutic effects when patients with parkinsonism who were controlled on levodopa began to use aspartame products. The antagonism of levodopa by dietary protein presumably reflects impaired transport from serum across the blood brain barrier by neutral amino acids (Pincus l986).

Dr. Roberts also discusses Lidocaine (Xylocaine) which he says is an important drug used for local anesthesia and the treatment of ventricular arrhythmias in intensive care units. Alterations of its pharmacology by aspartame require study. He says: "Kim et al (l987) reported that the intraperitoneal administration of aspartame significantly reduced the 50% convulsion dose of lidocaine. They indicated that PKU patients and asymptomatic PKU heterozygotes may be more sensitive to the toxic effects of this and related local anesthetics."

Today Dr. Roberts explained: "An interaction should be suspect with virtually every drug if the patient is using aspartame."

This goes along with conversations with Dr. James Bowen who says because aspartame damages the mitocondria of the cell it will interact with all drugs and as a chemical hypersensitization agent will interact with vaccines, unsafe sweeteners like Splenda or sucralose ( chlorinated hydrocarbon) and toxins.

Dr. Bowen wrote about the biochemical interactions between aspartame and other poisons including many pharmaceuticals illustrated in Dr. Roberts medical text and said Dr. Mercola's web site has them as well. Further he wrote: "Because aspartame in the processes of digestion and metabolism, forms about ten other known severe poisonings, and intermediate metabolites, it's potential for drug related interactions is immeasurable. To top that off, the aspartame molecule is so heinously poisonous in different ways that it never passed a single FDA standard toxicity test! So Donald Rumsfeld, CEO of aspartame manufacturer Searle employed political power to get it approved, after the FDA for 16 years refused to allow it on the market because of aspartame toxicity. Then Reagan took direct executive measures to paralyze FDA from further action against aspartame.

From http://rense.com/general63/asp.htm

Approx two thirds of the western world use aspartame, as well as being highly toxic on its own, the interaction with other drugs chemicals and vaccines make it appear to be another ingredient in the war against humanity.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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The pharmeucutical use of  fluorinated drugs is another worry as flouride also interacts/combines with heavy metals and chemicals and helps drive the drug deeper into tissues and  cross the blood brain barrier.
The date rape drug Rohypnol is basically fluorianted valium but the fluorine makes it 10 times more potent than valium.

Prozac is fluorinated benzine product, many of these fluorinated drugs are some of the most toxic out there, many already being pulled of the market.
http://www.prn2.usm.my/mainsite/bulleti … nst34.html

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Good news!
http://www.rense.com/general67/asop.htm

New Mexico Takes
Lead In Banning Aspartame
From Dr. Betty Martini, D.Hum.
Bettym19@mindspring.com
9-7-5

Thank you for your interest in the New Mexico Environmental Improvement Board meeting September 6, regarding a proposed rule change which would ban the neurotoxic sweetener, aspartame, for the state of New Mexico, the first ban of its kind in the USA.

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Well, let's hope that Splenda (TM) isn't worse! 

Good old Donald Rumsfeld.
TPTB must have offered him lots of perks,
like power, comfort and safety during major
calamities, and a steady stream of sex slaves
and eternal youth(s).

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Splenda may be worse.  I understand it is a chlorocarbon (chlorine plus sugar) like DDT.  Mercola.com has a lot of info, although right now it is mostly collected individual horror stories.  Wouldn't be surprised if it interacts with Aspartame too. hmm

Never Give Up!

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Well at least Stevia isn't toxic.  Or so I've heard.

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Tom, great stuff.  Barefoot, brilliant as usual.  When can I get a shot at that "steady stream", and youth stuff.?

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Krazor wrote:

Tom, great stuff.  Barefoot, brilliant as usual.  When can I get a shot at that "steady stream", and youth stuff.?

Ummm, sell your soul to the highest bidder?  If that is what you really want, to act and look like Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush and all.  wink

Never Give Up!

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Hi,

Recently I sent this email to a researcher who is an 'expert' on the subject of aspartame, employed by a major university in Canada:

Visavis wrote:

Hello,

As the owner of a small business, I am also a 'layperson' student of several unrelated subjects out of personal interest.  One such subject is general health, and specifically aspartame and its effects on the human.

I noticed (on the university website) that this is a focused area of your studies, and thought to contact you as one seeking expert opinion.  I understand your mandate is probably not to deal with members of the public looking for more information, but would be very appreciative of your opinion.

Question: which side of the aspartame debate is generally more correct - that it is benign, or that it is harmful to the human body?  If it is harmful, in what ways is it so?  Is there any specific sources (online or books), that you may refer me to, for greater understanding?

Thank you for your time!  I hope you can help point me in the right direction.

And his expert response:

a university scholar and expert on aspartme wrote:

Thank you for your interest in my research. 

My position on aspartame, based on the academic research (including my own as I have published two multi-experiment papers on it), is that aspartame is relatively benign.  Though any product may be aversive in large enough amounts or for a select group of individuals (even mother's milk is harmful to some), research indicates that aspartame is relatively safe.  This product has been VERY intensively studied.  Aspartame may not contribute to weight loss  (weight gain is more than caloric intake and caloric expenditure) though it will not cause tooth decay either.

A comprehensive evaluation of aspartame is:

The Clinical Assessment of a Food Additive: Assessment of Aspartame, edited by Tschanz, Buthcko, Stargel & Kotsonis, CRC Press, 1996.

Though this review is supported by the NutraSweet Company,  it is fair and accurate.  The information on the internet is often unreliable and not substantiated.

I hope this helps.

best,

He admits the major study on the subject is commissioned by NutraSweet...!  And apparently this is acceptable practice.  Secondarily, the strong implication is that all contrary info you'll find on the internet is conspiratorial bunk. 

Some people just make me shake my head.  I guess it's the system.  As a university scholar, he's employed and financed by massive cartels that want to dumb down the people.

I know this has been covered, but any other 'expert' opinions on the subject, or suggestions for response, would be appreciated in this forum.  If anyone wants to take a crack at this guy, let me know.

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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I knew a girl who managed to swear off the addiction of Diet Soda and it changed her life.
I have told kinfolk and others its dangerous and it does not register with them.
Sad.
God how do people tolerate the taste of that poison???
I mean it tastes bad.
I just don't get it.
Programming.
I'm convinced artifice in sweetners is also creating diabetics and myriad other maladies.

StarCat

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StarCat, interesting point about the taste.  While I definately agree with you, I've come across a few people in my life that swear that they actually prefer the TASTE of diet drinks compared to their sugary counterparts.  Makes ya wonder.  Personally even the thought of consuming chemicals like aspartame and flouride makes me sick, and if I chew gum or brush my teeth I can't help but feel bad for doing so, and feel the need to apologize to my physical body. 

I've noticed that it's almost impossible to buy gum that doesn't have aspartame now.  While I don't want to be paranoid, it seems to be that there is almost a conspiracy to convert as many products to contain aspartame as possible.  I remember a time when you could buy the conventional big brand gums and they hadn't yet been affected by this trend. Ahh the glory days of relatively safe gum chewing!

I have a bit of a weakness towards Dr. Pepper as it is just so damned tasty.  I noticed something a while back, up here in Canada, not sure how it is in the US, they started marketing and selling Cherry Vanilla Dr. Pepper, but only in Diet form!  Almost like they are putting something out with "specialty" flavours to make you interested, but only release it in diet form so rots your brain alongside your gut. 

I'd say that I would stick to water only, but even that is fluorinated, can't escape this pernicious chemical force feeding it seems....

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Buy reverse osmosis water (takes out the fluoride) and make your own tea and sweeten it
with stevia or xylitol.  Use empty water bottles to take your tea with you.

You have to go to a health food store to find non-aspartame gum and toothpaste without
fluoride.  Or you can just use baking soda and water to brush your teeth.

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When researchers need obese rats for studies, they inject baby mice with MSG, another excitotoxin related to Aspartame.  The mice grow up obese, without increased food intake.

Some vaccines today contain MSG or aspartame.  We have an epidemic of childhood obesity.

Not a coincidence.

Aspartame is a deadly poison, no doubt about it.  It's somewhat addictive, too.  It took me several months to wean myself off of the diet drinks.

Once I was off the stuff, I lost a lot of weight very easily and joint pains which I thought were arthritis cleared up also.

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great and would suffice.  ~Robert Frost

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I rarely, I mean rarely, ever consume aspartame, but the other day I tried a mini microwave low-cal popcorn bag because it was the only thing I had left in my food drawer at work.  I was mildly hungry when I ate it, and I did not care for the taste, as it was loaded with aspartame (on popcorn? yuck!) but I needed something to eat so I finished it.  About five minutes later I had sharp hunger pangs.  The popcorn made me hungrier!!!  That's doubly bad given what Aquarius posted about it causing obesity even without increased food intake.

I don't trust any artificial sweeteners.  They taste bad and even if they weren't harmful in and of themselves (which I believe they are), I believe their use helps train people into wanting everything unnaturally sweet. 


I agree it's difficult to get people to stop aspartame.  I'm not sure why -- maybe because more mainstream health advice is to replace sugar with aspartame (as if one MUST have sweetener).  I don't watch TV, so I don't know what kind of persuasion is occurring there.

Congratulations Aquarius on your improved health!

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Thanks, Seventh.

Yeah, I'm certain that aspartame increases hunger... it's similar to MSG in that way.  You know, the old joke about eating Chinese food and being hungry an hour later.

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great and would suffice.  ~Robert Frost