Topic: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

I know lyra already started a thread about this, but I wanted to say something about the situation in terms of the "big picture" and from a spiritual point of view.

I think the most overwhelming aspect of the Katrina aftermath to me is the state of confusion now gripping the affected areas. I think this situation was totally unexpected by the Powers That Be. You may think otherwise, but the way I see it is that they were toally unprepared for this scenario. Hurricane Katrina was not part of their plans. They may be trying to think up something now to take advantage of the situation, I don't doubt, but right now they're still scrambling to sort it out.

Right now there's absolute chaos in New Orleans. Armed gangs are roaming the remaining dry parts of the city. Anyone outdoors is at risk of being robbed and/or killed. The police were overwhelmed and have pretty much given up. Dozens of New Orleans police officers have quit over the past few days simply because they can't handle it. This morning I've been listening to an internet broadcast of the National Guard radio trasnmissions via a scanner. These people do NOT have the situation under control. There's a lot of confusion going around, a lot of desperation in their voices. Some of these people probably haven't gotten a wink of sleep in days.

The National Guard has NO plan. FEMA has just arrived on the scene, conveniently late, and they have NO plan. The general from the NG in charge at the S(t)uperdome was verbally pissed off at the FEMA director over the radio for their incompetency. I used to consider with some seriousness those conspiracies about how an epidemic would be unleashed upon the populous and FEMA would take control over everyone. Now all I can do is laugh at that idea. FEMA couldn't control a herd of f*cking cows!

Here's the bottom line: Negative forces tend to be successful when their plans are carried out without any unexpected elements getting in the way. The minute something unexpected happens, this weakens their momentum. Chaos and confusion weaken them, because negative forces are based on order and linearity.

If it's true that some storms are representative of hyperdimensional battles between light and dark forces (per the Cassiopaean channel), then Hurricane Katrina was a doozy! My heart goes out to the people in Louisiana and elsewhere who were affected by the storm and its aftermath. I feel for the people who're living in absolute fear right now, with their homes gone, possessions gone, no job and seemingly no future. All they have is themselves. And yet, at the same time, there have been so many lessons to learn for them to learn and to grow from. I always believed that disasters and chaos brought out the best and worst in people. It never fails to show someone's "true colors," in terms of their spiritual inclination toward STS or STO. There are people who are bent upon furthering only their survival even if it means killing their own brothers and sisters of humanity. And then there are others who have nothing but compassion in mind and are risking their own well-being to rescue people and help them out.

My intuition tells me that this situation is sparking something even bigger. A great change is going to sweep the US in particular. People in the south are already very upset and angry with how the government is handling the Katrina aftermath. It's evident that the government is incompetent to handle an event of this magnitude. They can plan a war on the other side of the planet quite confidently but when it comes to a disaster in their own land they're inept. And again it's that element of surpise. This is why any plans for population control and lockdown will ultimately fail. Their are some events and forces within the universe that can never be forseen.

"The best-laid plans of mice and men often go awry."

Re: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

seeker wrote:

I think the most overwhelming aspect of the Katrina aftermath to me is the state of confusion now gripping the affected areas. I think this situation was totally unexpected by the Powers That Be. You may think otherwise, but the way I see it is that they were toally unprepared for this scenario. Hurricane Katrina was not part of their plans. They may be trying to think up something now to take advantage of the situation, I don't doubt, but right now they're still scrambling to sort it out.

Yeah, this is what I'm starting to think also. I don't think this was apart of their plans. I don't doubt they have certain weather controlling capabilities, although how extensive they are I have no idea. But I think if this situation was deliberately created by TPTB then they would have been much better prepared to deal with the aftermath. From what I can see so far, it seems like they were completely unprepared for this disaster, and that might also explain why the media have been very slow to pick up on this outside the United States. Although today the BBC have finally got their act together and realised this a news story that deserves extensive coverage, god knows what took them so long!

Andy

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Re: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

I am thinking along similar lines also. At first I thought what wonderful timing this storm has(weather control) to shift our focus off the war and other misdeeds. But then it was like, hey gas prices are going to go up and people are already pissed about what it is now. And heating fuel and of course transporting goods ect. They really can't be that dumb. And you are right it is a real cluster-F getting things going, if they had a hand in it surely the wouldn't step in the shit.  Maybe TPTB are giving people a chance to open their eyes.

4 (edited by lyra 2005-09-01 08:39:37)

Re: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

seeker wrote:

I think the most overwhelming aspect of the Katrina aftermath to me is the state of confusion now gripping the affected areas. I think this situation was totally unexpected by the Powers That Be. You may think otherwise, but the way I see it is that they were toally unprepared for this scenario. Hurricane Katrina was not part of their plans. They may be trying to think up something now to take advantage of the situation, I don't doubt, but right now they're still scrambling to sort it out.

After reading your post you make a good case.  I don't think I ever fully believed it was a man made storm - my gut said global warming / climate change is sparking larger, more frequent hurricanes.  I think maybe at best, somebody somewhere could have tweaked it, but as far as being completely created by them...I don't know.  Unless it was a black ops faction of the government, doing their own thing with their own agenda.  In that case, FEMA, the National Guard, and all the rest would sincerely be out of the loop and unprepared, and therefore would explain their confusion and ineptitude.   


seeker wrote:

The police were overwhelmed and have pretty much given up. Dozens of New Orleans police officers have quit over the past few days simply because they can't handle it. This morning I've been listening to an internet broadcast of the National Guard radio trasnmissions via a scanner. These people do NOT have the situation under control. There's a lot of confusion going around, a lot of desperation in their voices. Some of these people probably haven't gotten a wink of sleep in days.

The National Guard has NO plan. FEMA has just arrived on the scene, conveniently late, and they have NO plan. The general from the NG in charge at the S(t)uperdome was verbally pissed off at the FEMA director over the radio for their incompetency. I used to consider with some seriousness those conspiracies about how an epidemic would be unleashed upon the populous and FEMA would take control over everyone. Now all I can do is laugh at that idea. FEMA couldn't control a herd of f*cking cows!

This was what I enjoyed most about my brother's police scanners...getting the inside scoop on what's really going on.   I'm glad you have access to this, because it can finally put to rest once and for all what the true situation is behind the scenes.   Now we know what they're really feeling and thinking, which helps piece together what the real story may be.   

Especially interesting is your conclusion about FEMA....I think more people need to read what you've written, especially the conspiracy theorists who are convinced that FEMA is the devil.  I've read SO much stuff about the insidiousness of FEMA; they've been portrayed as a force to be reckoned with in the event stuff hits the fan...when the truth is apparantly the exact opposite!   And as somebody mentioned on the other Katrina thread (Xenopope I think...) FEMA is actually currently in the process of merging with the Homeland Security department.  So there won't even be a FEMA anymore very soon.




seeker wrote:

It's evident that the government is incompetent to handle an event of this magnitude. They can plan a war on the other side of the planet quite confidently but when it comes to a disaster in their own land they're inept. And again it's that element of surpise. This is why any plans for population control and lockdown will ultimately fail. Their are some events and forces within the universe that can never be forseen.

That's what I'm hoping.  Stuart Wilde has been saying this for so long, that the dark stuff thinks its winning, but the joke's on them.  They will fail in the end.   The "Tall Boys" and "Tall Girls" showed up, with other beings, and it's over for them whether they realize it or not.   So, let's hope so.....

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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5 (edited by Marcus 2005-09-01 08:29:21)

Re: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

seeker wrote:

My intuition tells me that this situation is sparking something even bigger. A great change is going to sweep the US in particular. People in the south are already very upset and angry with how the government is handling the Katrina aftermath. It's evident that the government is incompetent to handle an event of this magnitude. They can plan a war on the other side of the planet quite confidently but when it comes to a disaster in their own land they're inept. And again it's that element of surpise. This is why any plans for population control and lockdown will ultimately fail. Their are some events and forces within the universe that can never be forseen.

Great post seeker!  You have managed to put into context a lot of thoughts I have also been having myself that I have had difficulty putting into any context.

The part of your post that I quoted in particular I have had the same thoughts.  Today especially I have been having a very strong feeling that these events are going to be the beginning of a chain that leads to a lot of change...whether or not that will immediately be for the good or bad I don't know.  Long term I am sure it will all be good though.

Thinking about this now - the incompetence of all the Government agencies would also attribute to the lack of media coverage.  More often than not the media all around the world really on press releases from the Government...and like so much else over the past few days, this just hasn't really been very forthcoming.  I can see the media drones now thinking "Well the Government hasn't really reacted to this in a major way so it can't be a major story."  Of course once they start using their own eyes and brains it all starts kicking into gear.

And yes whilst I agree that this has come upon them very unexpectedly - it still doesn't, for me at least - explain the totally ineptitude of the Government.  Either they are doing some of this deliberately, or something else is going on.

Or yes - maybe the US Government really is that inept.  And if this truly is the case there really will be a backlash.

From the spiritual perspective that this thread opened with...this whole situation is exposing the STS / STO spiritual nature of not just those caught in New Orleans - but indeed many of the on lookers.  And part of me can't but help think that this spiritual "exposure" is just a minor version of what is to come.

6 (edited by SS Elephant 2005-09-01 08:40:06)

Re: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

I agree and disagree.  I agree that the gov't had little or no plan for an event of this magnitute.  And the people in charge -- Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, and whoever/whatever else is behind the scenes -- were probably busy making plans for the Middle East prior to all of this.  A hurricane of this destructive power was not foreseen.

However, if these people are smart (and they are quite intelligent -- one must give the devil his due), the chaos and havoc that has resulted from Katrina can be integrated into their plans to militarize and monitor society.  The disorder and violence that has resulted from a lack of planning could be used as a pretext to show that we need to cede more power to the gov't over our individual lives so as to "continue our way of life".   

We all need energy, especially from oil -- maybe Cheney et al are now planning something where they call a "national emergency" based on our lack of energy supplies, something that will require martial law?  a suspension of most administrative law?   Bush has just recently admitted that the Iraq war is over oil: http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/st … 074c.html.  These  shifty manipulators are now becoming more brazen with their plans.

So, I guess in summary -- you are right seeker, these people were not prepared.  But they can and probably will take advantage of the chaos.  We should not underestimate the power that is wielded by these people, or their lust for their own selfish and corrupt ends.

Your focus determines your reality -- Qui Gon Jinn

Re: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

interesting points, i tend to agree with this point of view.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

8 (edited by Monica 2005-09-01 09:30:39)

Re: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

Seeker wrote:
If it's true that some storms are representative of hyperdimensional battles between light and dark forces (per the Cassiopaean channel), then Hurricane Katrina was a doozy!

There were some very serious upstairs battles in December into February that essentially took out the top hierarchy of the forces of fear. Their minions continue with the quest, but it is essentially over.

Lyra wrote:
Unless it was a black ops faction of the government, doing their own thing with their own agenda.  In that case, FEMA, the National Guard, and all the rest would sincerely be out of the loop and unprepared, and therefore would explain their confusion and ineptitude.

The Black Ops work more closely with the upstairs forces of fear than FEMA, the Guard, etc., and could indeed be a part of the MD reality that the battle continues in all dimensions, including 3D. I tend to see it this way, that somebody in 3D knew this was coming and indeed could have planned and/or assisted and that the lack of preparation could be a part of these ones' plan. But as I mentioned elsewhere, it's all part of the larger picture and what is needed to create this shift.

Lyra wrote:
Stuart Wilde has been saying this for so long, that the dark stuff thinks its winning, but the joke's on them.  They will fail in the end.   The "Tall Boys" and "Tall Girls" showed up, with other beings, and it's over for them whether they realize it or not.   So, let's hope so.....

It's over. It all must play out including in 3D till the farce fizzles, but victory has been achieved upstairs even if not all the minions realize it yet.

What's TPTB?

Re: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

TPTB = the powers that be

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Re: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

Thanks. Does this mean 3d powers that be? Or does it depend on the topic of the moment?

Re: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

During natural disasters and the resultant chaos, the National Guard is historically called upon to help -- halt looting, maintain order etc.  The National Guard is sorely lacking during this disaster because they are ... IN IRAQ.

The levees failed because the long term maintenance and upgrading was halted in 2003.  Because the money was stopped as it went to IRAQ.

Louisiana is an extremely poor state -- many of the wards (districts) in New Orleans are well below the poverty line.  Those with ANY means, left the city.  Some left the state.  Others went a few miles up the road (about an hours drive) to Baton Rouge.  A friend of mine lives in Baton Rouge and the population has doubled!! since the hurricane.  Hotels are packed etc.

Perhaps the only good thing that will come of this is that the gas prices are going to sky rocket and with that Bush's popularity will continue to plummet!  Stuart Wilde wrote an article several months ago that Bush is going to flip out -- as in ... bring the men with the white coats.

To me, New Orleans is an example of how things will be as the infrastructure of the country begins to unravel.  We've discussed this bunches on this board.  What to do, how to survive?

New Orleans -- as above, so below.  The hyperdimensional wars are raging ... SW covers it.

These types of events, to me, will start to further illustrate/divide the "good guys/bad guys" ... will you start looting because you can?  or will you find food because you must?  And will you share that food because you want to?

As for the government/TPTB of course they will use the chaos to enact more regulations, eliminate more freedoms.  Don't forget though that there are already 100s of existing Executive Orders which can be used in times of national emergency.  It's all part, I guess, of the overall "big plan" to take away our freedoms.

Yet, I am still hopeful -- the tall boys and girls will become more and more a reality as we open up to the possibility ...

And continue to care.

Christine

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Monica wrote:

Thanks. Does this mean 3d powers that be? Or does it depend on the topic of the moment?

I tend to view TPTB as multi-contextual and refering to what ever power would be controlling or attempting to control any given event.  So in the case of the current events it would be 3d and other "higher" or "lower" powers, 4d, 5d and other trandimensional beings / energies.

I view it as a more general label rather than a specific label...therefore it would fit in with most peoples views of reality...

13 (edited by phlux 2005-09-01 14:02:30)

Re: My take on Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath

I agree more with SS Elephant and this comment could use an alternate perspective:

don't doubt they have certain weather controlling capabilities, although how extensive they are I have no idea. But I think if this situation was deliberately created by TPTB then they would have been much better prepared to deal with the aftermath.

One of the things to consider is that the Aftermath that we are seeing now is playing directly into the goals of the Administration and its high level backers. The interest is not in being able to squash chaos when it arrises in a quick and efficient manner (like lowering loss of life, saving financial damages etc) - but rather to know when to let the chaos reign until it can be used to your benefit.

In this case, as SS-E mentions, this is a situation will be used and Loosh-ed to its fullest, when the proper play for turning this to the Admins advantage is recognized, it will be seized upon.

"It's hard to advance freedom in a country that has been strangled by tyranny." - G.W. Bush 04/13/2004

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Case in point is this article:  http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/k … .html#fema
The "gunmen" referred to seemed to be only concerned with thwarting the plans of would-be aid-workers.

Of Earth only Man is great; of Man only mind is great.

15 (edited by SS Elephant 2005-09-01 14:19:48)

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I should add that even though they will find some way to capitalize on it, this should not be a cause for discouragement for those of us who wish to see Bush/Cheney/etc. out of office.  I hope it will inspire us to match their penchant for the dark with our own ability to cultivate light and love. 

I do sense though that the hurricane does not mark an end to whatever spiritual battles are being waged right now, or even a midpoint -- perhaps an end to a beginning that in my mind began with 9/11.  A new phase of some sort?

Your focus determines your reality -- Qui Gon Jinn