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Aug. 27, 2005. 01:00 AM

All Christians should apologize to Jews
 

WILLIAM BEDFORD
OPINION

Now that the Pope has apologized for the sins committed against Jews in the name of the Catholic Church, and the German Lutheran Church has followed suit, it's
expected that other Christian denominations will also seek forgiveness for their sins of anti-Semitism.

A blanket apology for past wrongs is about all that any group can hope for, since no church, or government for that matter, can be expected to itemize every act of
injustice committed by their predecessors over the centuries.

The Jews, however, are one group that deserves a special apology from all of Christendom for the pain and suffering inflicted on them by Christians ever since
some, long-forgotten, Gentile first called them Christ-killers, two millennia ago.

Peter Gumpel, a German Jesuit priest, recently said in an interview on Canadian TV, "It is a fact that the Jews have killed Christ. This is an undeniable historical
fact." Only assuming that it is true, (and it is not!) what if it is? No thinking person would blame anyone for the "sins" of their parents, let alone the "sins" of their
ancient ancestors. Life is tough enough without that burden. Besides, if the crucifixion of Jesus Christ was part of a divine plan, as Christians believe, what choice did
those ancient Jews have?

Branded by Christians as "God killers," Jews have, at various times, been expelled from Spain, barred from England, and persecuted in Poland, Ukraine and Russia.
In fact, there are few places in all of Christendom where the Jewish people have not been on the pointy end of the Christian bigotry stick.

Ethnic hatred, in one form or another, has always been with us. The ancient Greeks and Romans embraced slavery. The Norman conquerors despised the Saxons
so much they prohibited them from learning French. The Pilgrims who settled the American colonies seeking freedom of worship had no qualms about denying
freedom of conscience to anyone who disagreed with their own narrow version of Christianity.

Throughout history, practically every ethnic and religious group has been subjected to the tyranny of the ruling majority. Things have changed little over the years, as
can be witnessed in such places as Indonesia, and the former Yugoslavia.

Nevertheless, the Jews are a special case because they have been persecuted by Christians for no reason other than their rejection of Jesus, himself a Jew, as their
Saviour.

The refusal by the Western democracies to admit Jewish refugees from Hitler's Germany lent encouragement to the sub-humans who targeted the whole Jewish
people for extermination in what has become known as the Holocaust. Even in these so called enlightened times, anti-Semitism continues through vandalism of
synagogues, and through neo-Nazis who, despite all evidence to the contrary, keep trying to convince the world that the Holocaust never happened.

These revisionists blame the Jews for everything from the bubonic plague to World War I. In Canada, Quebec separatist Yves Michaud even had the temerity to
accuse Canadian Jews of the shocking crime of voting against the break-up of their country, when they voted for national unity.

Richard Nixon, who had no qualms about using the brains of Henry Kissinger to make up for his own shortcomings, agreed with the "Reverend" Billy Graham that
the Jews are a threat to the security of the United States. So, we have still a long way to go.

Apologizing for past wrongs against every people from Australian Aborigines to Scottish Highlanders is the easy part. The hard part, which is the only part that
matters, is to cease and desist from hurtful actions against others just because they happen to differ from us in ethnicity, religion or sex.

If we ever get around to treating others as we would like to be treated ourselves, there will be no need for future leaders to ask forgiveness from, or for, any of us.
 

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William Bedford is a Toronto writer. This column is reprinted from the Canadian Jewish News.



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Here are the links (the second one is a tiny url):

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Conten … alogin=yes

and

http://tinyurl.com/az9ba
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My Yiddish is a little rusty, anyone know Yiddish for "beyond chutzpah"?

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And maybe the Jews can then apologize to the Palestinians.....?

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Stop reading my mind Lyra wink

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This whole thing is just so silly, I don't even know where to begin.  I realize that was the point in posting it though.  There's something to be said about the victim mentality that insists on holding a never ending pity party.   I see what's going on here though, and at one point it would have riled me up, but now I just remove myself from it.  More matrix illusory drama to entrap people in.  More divide and conquer tactics.

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impatiens wrote:

Stop reading my mind Lyra wink

Thought you were joking with the original post smile  ?

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WILLIAM BEDFORD wrote:

Richard Nixon, who had no qualms about using the brains of Henry Kissinger to make up for his own shortcomings, agreed with the "Reverend" Billy Graham that
the Jews are a threat to the security of the United States.

Translation -

Satan, who had no qualms about using the brains of Baphomet to make up for his own shortcomings, agreed with the "Reverend" Lucifer that the Demons are a threat to the security of Hell.

. . . I kid. Really, I do.

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The world is run by Jewish and Gentile Satanists who meet annualy at Bohemia Grove to sacrifice a child to Moloch to relieve themselves of any guilt they may feel. Ordinary Jews and Gentiles have been persecuted by these people for hundreds of years, one day (hopefully) they will pay for thier crimes. One day (hopefully) ordinary Jews and Gentiles will realise it is thier own leaders who are the enemy, and not each other.

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When I go home, people wonder why I shake my head and feel like Canada is a good place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there anymore.

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T-Ren wrote:

When I go home, people wonder why I shake my head and feel like Canada is a good place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there anymore.

I hear you TRen. But, seems to me that it's now pretty much the same all over sad

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Good grief, one Illuminati group demanding an apology from another. Rather humorous. I know there’s a lot of infighting among them as they keep alive their fear-based realities. Sometimes it’s just funny to see the dance being created to support one view or another. Eventually, within a few years, these ones will be so caught up in propping up their reality and dealing with the crises they create that they won’t be concerned about those working under the radar to stop them.

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Monica wrote:

Good grief, one Illuminati group demanding an apology from another. Rather humorous. I know there’s a lot of infighting among them as they keep alive their fear-based realities. Sometimes it’s just funny to see the dance being created to support one view or another. Eventually, within a few years, these ones will be so caught up in propping up their reality and dealing with the crises they create that they won’t be concerned about those working under the radar to stop them.

I agree Mon, soon enuff, they'll all turn on each other. Has it already begun?

See this link:

http://www.jnewswire.com/library/articl … icleid=676

Katrina, the fist of God?

"What America is about to experience is the lifting of God’s hand of
protection; the implementation of His judgment on the nation most
responsible for endangering the land and people of Israel."


America is most responsible for endangering Isreal and its people? Oy vey! I thought that America was Israel's best friend (and vice-versa) and twin "great satan".   wink

Well, that's what the msm would lead one to believe.

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Dammit, impatiens, you beat me to that fist of God link!  Ain't that a hoot!

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impatiens wrote:

Aug. 27, 2005. 01:00 AM

All Christians should apologize to Jews
 

WILLIAM BEDFORD
OPINION

The Jews, however, are one group that deserves a special apology from all of Christendom for the pain and suffering inflicted on them by Christians ever since
some, long-forgotten, Gentile first called them Christ-killers, two millennia ago.

Hi Impatiens!

I believe your heart is in the right place but there is a flaw in the conclusion.  Going as far back as one or two millenia allows you to select a point in time when the jews were being persecuted and labeled Christ-Killers.  If one is going to go back in time then all History must be taken into consideration.  When the jews came to Canaan there were other groups already farming and raising animals in the land.  Under the instructions of Yahweh the jews were told to take the land from the sinners/idolaters and make it theirs.  This was accomplished by force and the killing of thousands of people that already had claim of the land.  So as you can see if one selects a different time frame the conclussion would be different.  Human history is tale of one race taking advantage of another.  If restitution or apologies are required them most races would be guilty of the crime and should obliged.   The jews killed the Phillistines, the japanese the chinese, the white people the indians, the indians from one tribe the indians from another tribe, the catholics the protestants (and viceversa), the christians the moslems (and viceversa) and so on and so on...............  Nasty little world we live in!

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whywhywhy wrote:

Hi Impatiens!

I believe your heart is in the right place but there is a flaw in the conclusion.  ...........  Nasty little world we live in!

www,

I didn't write that article, merely posted it here for others to read. I actually think it's preposterous. No, make that mind boggling stoopid!

Personally, I'd like to learn from history, not live in (dwell upon) the past as some prefer to do. The expression "get a life!" so comes to mind. wink

Must agree with you on that this is a "nasty little world we live in". So utterly sad...

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impatiens wrote:

Must agree with you on that this is a "nasty little world we live in". So utterly sad...

Ummn, it's not the world that's nasty, it's the people that are living in it that cause all the damned problems. We take everything to the extreme, and it's just absolutely f*cking ridiculous. This is why I'm fast running out of patience with my species as a whole. I'm tired of all the stupid, childish pointing of fingers, and the endlessly interminable goddamned bickering over problems that should have been sorted out decades - or even centuries - ago. So f*ck the Jews, and f*ck the Christians, okay? Anyone want to ask *me* for an apology?

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe