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Topic: Insomnia??

I've been having really bad insomnia lately, ever since flying back to NY after spending some time in California.  I will be totally exhausted, my eyes ready to shut down completely, but I'll spend two or three hours tossing and turning before finally going to sleep!  once asleep I can stay asleep, but I have never had such trouble being able to get to sleep before.  The last couple days I'm sorry to say I've actually taken a shot of nyquil (which is probably the worst thing for your body) but it does help put me out. 

What might be causing this insomnia?  My feelings tell me that my AC might have something to do with it (I used to sleep well, even though it was very hot in my room, before putting the AC in), but could it really have such a big effect?  I don't think I'm under any tremendous stress, and when I'm trying to get to sleep my thoughts are very jumpy, they don't stay with any one topic.

What would you guys suggest I do?  Could you recommend anything that might help me get to sleep?

thanks!

SSE

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  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: Insomnia??

HI SSE

Try Kava-Kava ... get it at a health food store.  Find the one with the largest % of the active ingredient.  Has worked great for me in the past.

Christine

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Re: Insomnia??

Try a couple high dosing days of Melatonin to help reset your internal clock.
Kava-Kava is good, so is L-Tryptophan and/or 5-HTP.

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"Chew some valerian root and get some exercise." - Fight Club

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  • From: City of Angels
  • Registered: 2005-06-25

Re: Insomnia??

thanks guys for the input...i'll def try the kava-kava.

yea i've been running a lot but even the days i tire myself out it's still difficult.  dunno, maybe it's just this city that is driving me nuts, lol.

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Re: Insomnia??

Siete azahares herbal tea-preferably the "chunky" mixture-lotsa bark looking stuff.  Most hispanic stores carry this.  Also a tea that is 2 parts hops, 2 parts camomile, 1 part spearmint.  Put a good fistful of the dry tea mixture in about 3-4 cups water in a saucepan, heat just before it is beginning to boil (try and not get to boil stage), let it sit for 5 minutes or so.  Strain and enjoy!  wink

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Re: Insomnia??

Hi, do these things:
Have a nice hot bath before you go to bed.
Drink a glass of milk or some herbal drink before bedtime.

I do another thing...I try to fully relax, wear my nightsuit, and prepare for bed and lie down with the lights off.
I then just try not to think of anything in particular. I mean, you can't try to calculate the next days meeting points or your financial status calculations while lying down, or rehearse something you want to tell somebody:). That way, you will feel wide awake.

Just be relaxed and take a few deep breadths also.Let thoughts come unbidden to your mind, but you dont actively think of something.

Hope this helps!

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Re: Insomnia??

Hello, can someone please suggest a dosage of melotonin, to me, i have had chronic insomnia for about 6 years, i believe ritalin has damaged my pineal gland among many structures of my brain and thus am lacking in melotonin production.

I also can't feel positive emotion and thus don't have positive dreams, i don't have nightmares either, i have very weak yet very unpleasant dreams not involving real fear just negativity that always take me about 2-3 hours to get over in the morning.

I thought i'd provide a warning about melotonin. It is a dead neurohormone and it is exogenous, it is no substitue for the real thing, i have no referance, but i know i read somewhere that exogenous melotonin atrophies the pineal(psychic gland), this gland is a target for the PTB.

Flouride for example which they poison our water supplies with, has been shown to cause dysfunction and atrophy of the pineal gland, anti-depressants like Prozaz, again damage the pineal gland extensively.

Also as a side note, if anyone is familiar with Monoatomic gold, i have come to believe that this substance greatly enahces the pineal gland, before it becomes completely dependant on the substance for function and damages the Pineal gland.

This is why Monoatomic gold is promoted by the PTB, this is why it at first enchances psychic fucntion greatly, then this declines and you're Pineal gland is f*cked. I've read testimoney that when this happens and people stop taking monoaomtic gold they find they can't sleep without it, this is due to a f*ck up the diurnal cycle due to peinal gland dysfucntion.

The Pineal gland is a very important brain structure for phychic fucntion and alround bodiliy function and more.

If melotonin was of benefit to this gland it would not be allowed by the FDA etc.. to be availible legally and certianly would not be allowed to be manufactured by drug companies etc..

Take it from someone who has had their third eye(peinal gland) effectilvely poked out by drugs, don't take responsiblity away from your body of producing neuro hormones like melotnin, take precurosrs to neurotransmitters not neuro transmitters themselves.

Melotonin is synthesised from serotonin, so serotonin precursors likeas suggested above L-Tryptophan and/or 5-HTP are much better options in my opinion. It may not make a massive differance, but it may make all the difference i peronsally wouldn't chance it.

I am only gong to take it because my brain is already f*cked and i need the damage to shock doctors when they see it, plus i have plans to regenerate my mind after my next brain scan, so i'll only be using it until then, as soon as i want my mind to be ehalthy again you cna be guaranteed i would not touch the stuff.

I really cna apreciate how important ddifferent aspects of mentla fucntion are as i've lost massive amounts of all of them.

So what have others found to be an effective dose for sleep?

Thanks,
Miles.

P.s switch to precursors of neurotransmitters, don't take away your bodies reponsilbity for producing these hormones or your bodies ability to function will suffer, the PTB want your pineals f*cked up that is why Melotonin has met no resistance from the FDA etc...

Peace.

9 Reply by montalk (edited by montalk 2007-06-08 20:37:44)

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Melatonin is restricted in UK, Germany, and Australia. You cannot buy it over the counter without a prescription. It is widely available in the US, however the 'medical establishment' says there is no evidence it promotes sleep and the FDA then goes on to promote costly pharmaceutical alternatives instead with worse side-effects.

I wondered why it was available in the US, but not Europe and Australia. Then I remembered that only the US (as far as I know) uses the 60Hz AC electrical systems, which is precisely the frequency (according to research published in one of Val Valerian's Matrix books) that targets the pineal gland the most and reduces its melatonin production.  Meanwhile the UK, Germany, and Australia use the 50Hz system.

So I figured the reason why melatonin was allowed in the US is because the 60Hz system was already doing enough damage that not enough people would use it to make a difference in the big scheme of things. As for dosage, I got groggy hangover in the morning at 3mg and found 1mg the more optimal dose, maybe 1.5 mg (half of a 3mg pill) for good measure.

Yeah there's a possibility it could be dangerous. I wonder about that. So far though, I had taken melatonin regularly for a couple years then stopped for six or seven months and didn't notice any additional insomnia after-effects from stopping. My sleep cycle just went to back to hitting bed at dawn like always. So as far as natural melatonin production is concerned, the supplements didn't reduce my pineal's ability to create it even after three years of regularly taking supplements. If your pineal is already damaged or suppressed and there's nothing you can do to rebuild it, then maybe supplementing with melatonin might be necessary. Had I known about melatonin supplements sooner then high school and college would not have been hell trying to stay awake in class due to my sleep cycle being nearly opposite the majority of people. And no, waking up early day after day does not reset it.

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montalk wrote:

Melatonin is restricted in UK, Germany, and Australia. You cannot buy it over the counter without a prescription. It is widely available in the US, however the 'medical establishment' says there is no evidence it promotes sleep and the FDA then goes on to promote costly pharmaceutical alternatives instead with worse side-effects.

I wondered why it was available in the US, but not Europe and Australia. Then I remembered that only the US (as far as I know) uses the 60Hz AC electrical systems, which is precisely the frequency (according to research published in one of Val Valerian's Matrix books) that targets the pineal gland the most and reduces its melatonin production.  Meanwhile the UK, Germany, and Australia use the 50Hz system.

So I figured the reason why melatonin was allowed in the US is because the 60Hz system was already doing enough damage that not enough people would use it to make a difference in the big scheme of things. As for dosage, I got groggy hangover in the morning at 3mg and found 1mg the more optimal dose, maybe 1.5 mg (half of a 3mg pill) for good measure.

Beats my explaination, i've been on melotonin on prescription before, i'm sad to say 3 mg hans't done anything for me! Not even 6, i've taken as high as 15mg and 18 mg in desperation of sleep.
Yeah there's a possibility it could be dangerous. I wonder about that. So far though, I had taken melatonin regularly for a couple years then stopped for six or seven months and didn't notice any additional insomnia after-effects from stopping. My sleep cycle just went to back to hitting bed at dawn like always. So as far as natural melatonin production is concerned, the supplements didn't reduce my pineal's ability to create it even after three years of regularly taking supplements. If your pineal is already damaged or suppressed and there's nothing you can do to rebuild it, then maybe supplementing with melatonin might be necessary. Had I known about melatonin supplements sooner then high school and college would not have been hell trying to stay awake in class due to my sleep cycle being nearly opposite the majority of people. And no, waking up early day after day does not reset it.

I believe that when the time comes, meaning when i have money lol, for mental regeneration, among other things suplementing with neurotramitter precursors and amino acids, would help, as my mind would have the basic materials it needs to support dopamine, serotnin, melotonin etc... function. I'll probably use L-try and 5-htp, instead of melotonin, until then i'll get back on presciption.