1 Topic by Ayahuasca (edited by Ayahuasca 2005-08-22 16:01:03)

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Topic: Utah Ravers Treated Like Terrorists

This is crazy. Police beating up kids at a legal rave in Utah!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/22/13030/7546

Apparantly there's video footage of this doing the rounds on the internet, but at least two sites trying to distribute it have gone down today.

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"Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth..

- One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.

- The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That's not all though. Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more footage.

The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the f*ck out of here right now."

Now.. let's get the facts straight here.

This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession.

Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own property!!! "

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Re: Utah Ravers Treated Like Terrorists

Video is currently available here:

http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html

Yep, that's pretty f*cked, altho according to the Sherif's statement, they didn't have the right permit. Still, no excuse to send the police in wearing combat gear and kick the shit out of everyone. What the hell is all that about?

Yep, Big Brother is here alright!

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Wow ... those guys were fully decked-out in military camos and weaponry.    I wonder if they were Sheriff's deputies or actual military ... I can't tell the difference.  Of course that's the important point, though, isn't it?

4 Reply by seeker (edited by seeker 2005-08-22 18:53:10)

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I've been following this story since yesterday, reading different first-hand accounts, and it sounds (and looks) absolutely insane! What kind of world do we live in where people can't even congregate peacefully and have a good time!? There are forces in our world that would rather have fear, violence, and intimidation, instead of music, dancing, and fun. If you think about it, even though they had the permit and everything, the permit is irrelevant. WHY can't people come together, play music, and enjoy themselves in the middle of nature WITHOUT a permit? What kind of sick culture do we have that we NEED PERMITS just to have a party? It sounds like some kind of joke, but it's not.

There are times when things shock me so greatly that I just can't control my emotions and this is one of them. ARRGGHH!

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Another indication that the Nazis won.

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Re: Utah Ravers Treated Like Terrorists

thanks for posting this ayahuasaca.

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Thanks Andy,

Wonder if it had anything to do with Mormon's; being in Utah and all...

Perhaps Woodstock will be one of the great legends spoken about in the far future?

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   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

8 Reply by Auendove (edited by Auendove 2005-08-23 06:57:11)

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Re: Utah Ravers Treated Like Terrorists

manyeagles wrote:

Perhaps Woodstock will be one of the great legends spoken about in the far future?

Yeah, Woodstock will be remembered for this announcement one morning of the festival--

"Good Morning... what we have in mind is breakfast in bed for 400,000."

I heard one young man in the video Aya provided saying--

"I think they're serious. They got guns, man."


Brutal sad .


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There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me
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Chorus:
Think it's time we
STOP! Hey
What's that sound
Everybody look what's going down ...

There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right, if everybody's wrong
People speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance
From behind

Chorus:
Think it's time we
STOP! Hey
What's that sound
Everybody look what's going down ...

Singing songs and carrying signs
Getting so much resistance
From behind

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Everybody look what's going down ...

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
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What's that sound
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Hey! What's that sound
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9 Reply by Marcus (edited by Marcus 2005-08-23 07:37:54)

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Re: Utah Ravers Treated Like Terrorists

All rather demented isn't it.  Guess it's amazing no one was shot.

Here is the "official" line...

utahcountyonline.org/News/DeptNewsDetails.asp?ID=17759&WN_System=SHERIFF

Rave Party 

Utah County Sheriff's Office shuts down Rave Party in Spanish Fork Canyon.
During the summer of 2005 the Utah County Sheriff's Office has seen an increase in the number of large Rave parties that have occurred within Utah County. Approximately four weeks ago the Sheriff's Office became aware of another possible Rave party that was to occur somewhere in Utah County on August 20, 2005.     
      
Tickets were sold through a Salt Lake vendor, Uprock, for $20.00. Tickets could be bought in advance and directions to the exact location of the Rave would be provided on the day of the event.     
      
Utah County mass gathering ordinance prohibits the gathering of two hundred and fifty or more persons without a permit, bond, and Utah County Commission approval.     
      
Research was conducted and no mass gathering permit had been obtained for this incident. However, a health department permit had been obtained and EMS personnel were contracted to be on scene for first aide.     
      
From several previous experiences with Rave parties of this size, a large amount of drug use and underage consumption of alcohol occur. In addition reports of sexual assaults, overdoses, firearm violations, vehicle burglaries, and numerous individuals drive from the party under the influence of alcohol and or drugs.     
      
Utah County Sheriff's Office Detectives interviewed several females that had attended a prior rave party in the Utah county area in the past month that had been sexual assaulted. These females stated that the combination of drugs and alcohol made them fear for their safety due to the groping and sexual assaults that occurred during the Rave party. In the last year alone one near fatal shooting was investigated by Utah County Sheriff's Office at a similar party.     
      
Around noon on Saturday, August 20th, the Sheriff's office learned that the Rave Party was to take place in the Diamond Fork area located in Spanish Fork canyon at the Child's ranch. At that point it was again verified that the Utah County Commissioner's office had no knowledge of this nor had a permit been obtained.     
      
Utah County Major Crimes was contacted to assist with undercover surveillance. Both local and state SWAT teams were called in to control the crowds ( Utah County Metro SWAT, Utah Department of Corrections out of Salt Lake and Gunnison, Department of Public Safety and their helicopter and Provo SWAT) approximately 90 law enforcement personnel combined.     
      
At 9 pm the Rave party began and by 10 pm Major Crimes observed numerous illegal activities. Which included illegal use of drugs, distribution of drugs, and underage consumption of alcohol.     
      
It was verified that more than 250 individuals were at the party, in violation or county statutes and by 11:30 pm law enforcement personnel moved in to curtail and disburse the party. During this process at least 60 arrests were made for weapons offenses, DUI, illegal underage consumption of alcohol, possession of marijuana, possession of cocaine, possession of methamphetamine, possession of ecstasy, distribution of ecstasy, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer, and disorderly conduct.     
      
A safety sweep was conducted after the crowd was ordered to disburse and numerous narcotic items were located scattered on the ground which included: cocaine, ecstasy, marijuana, mushrooms, alcohol and large amounts of drug paraphernalia.     
      
A 17 year old female from West Jordan, found by officers, had overdosed on ecstasy. She was treated and released to her parents.     
      
Several local teenagers from Spanish Fork, Springville, Provo, and Payson were identified at the party by officers. As well as, numerous individuals out of the Salt Lake and Davis County area.     
      
Parents need to be aware of the type of illegal activities that occurs at these type of gathering. Sexual assaults, rapes, overdoses, drugs, alcohol abuse, thefts, and firearms violations. The sale of drugs at these parties is so prevalent that at this particular Rave party drugs were offered to a local off duty emergency medical service personnel who were contracted to be there. In addition two security personnel hired by the promoter were arrested for possession of cocaine and ecstasy.

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Re: Utah Ravers Treated Like Terrorists

I couldn't even read the whole thing.  Enough said.

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It seems that the majority of the "crimes" that the police were busting people up about concerned drugs and alcohol.

I think a big part of the problem then, in this story and others, is the fact that maybe drugs and alcohol shouldn't be illegal, although really I guess it's another topic in itself.   Had alcohol and drugs been legal when this happened, and were the legal drinking age 18 instead of 21, then pretty much MOST of this story could have been avoided.  The cops wouldn't have had much to do, save for making up stuff about permits and there being too many people.  Can't bust kneecaps over permits, really.

On a sidenote, society really needs to get some consistancy going when it comes to drugs and alcohol.

Boys can go off to war and die at 18, but they can't have a beer.

Alcohol is legal, "underage" drinking is not however. 

People can buy over the counter cough syrup to hallucinate on, but they can't buy/sell/take E, LSD.

You can smoke the tobacco plant, but not the marijuana plant.

And for some reason, the "AUTHORITIES" feel they have the right to tell us what we can and can not smoke, drink or injest into OUR bodies that belong to US, not THEM.

I'm not annoyed though.

Nope, not me.  wink

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I still remember flying home from Europe years ago and getting carded for cigarettes in New York.   This after having spent several weeks around 16-year-olds drinking huge glasses of beer -- legally -- in bars all over Germany, then hanging out on a houseboat in Amsterdam with other kids from New Zealand, Norway, South Africa, etc all chilling together passing bongs around.   BIG difference to come home to America after that ...

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This comment from Mike Rivero of WhatREallyHappened.com:

"WRH: I find myself agreeing with those who suggest that it wasn't what the Ravers were doing, but merely where they were (near where than truck blew up a week ago) that was the cause for the forcible ouster. "

Remember Spanish Fork Canyon is the place where that tractor-trailer hauling tons of explosives blew up recently:



Breaking: Explosion closes Spanish Fork Canyon, injures at least six
By Lisa Rosetta and Michael Westley
The Salt Lake Tribune 

A 6-foot R&R Co. trailer truck hauling 35,000 pounds of caste booster explosives rolled and exploded between the mouth of Spanish Fork Canyon and the intersection of Highway 89, pealing off railroad tracks, triggering a massive dirt slide and ...

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_2931194


Another take on this story?

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We're just so free here in America! We're overflowing with freedom! We've got so much of it, friendly police officers are giving it away at raves! We're even bringing it to other countries and portioning it out. Hey Afghanistan, have some freedom! Here, Iraq--suck on our freedom!

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I must add a thanks for this post as I used it for my research paper against censorship. Police confiscatin evidence to hide behind their illegal actions make me sick. An interesting note: Police State in the index of a history book lists it on page 665-666 =-P. Thanks again noblerealms for feeding my need for knowledge.
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