Topic: Conspiracy Allegations Checklist

There's just so many allegations of conspiracy out there - way to much to keep up with. So I thought I'd make an open thread on conspiracies as a sort of checklist as to whether anyone here can vouch for the validity, or discredit any of them.

Here's one from Rumor Mill News (I love their slogan - 'Politically Incorrect News -- Stranger than Fiction -- Usually True!')

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar … ?read=8572

The last batch, the ones ear marked 20 years,
was to come due in September of this year (1996), in Paris.

The bulk of these bearer bonds were 20 year bonds. It is
possible that an entire section of the forward freight
compartment of TWA 800 was carrying a cargo of phony
bonds. There are no duplicates of these or any of the other
bonds in existence. Untold billions of dollars, gathered from
all over the country, may very well have been the intended
victim of TWA-800. It is only during the last 10 years or so
that commercial airliners carry such freight. We used to
charter cargo transporters to carry such cargo. If our theory
holds any water and the phony paper was on board the TWA
flight, hundreds of billions of dollars of debt would have
been wiped out by downing the plane. In that case it was an
internal operation without regard for any human life on
board.

As a side note, I would like to assert my theory that some elite intelligence force (NSA, etc.) has as least one team of disinformation artists sitting in a 'lab' somewhere for the very purpose of combatting the efforts of real seekers.

I am as is Void.

2 (edited by Xenopope 2005-11-28 16:24:02)

Re: Conspiracy Allegations Checklist

On CNN and other cable news networks today they were running the headline - 'Bush: Border Security Important', and then I read this. It aired on June 9, 2005 - 18:00   ET.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/ … dt.01.html

LOU DOBBS TONIGHT wrote:

DOBBS: Border security is arguably the critical issue in this country's fight against radical Islamist terrorism. But our borders remain porous. So porous that three million illegal aliens entered this country last year, nearly all of them from Mexico.

Now, incredibly, a panel sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations wants the United States to focus not on the defense of our own borders, but rather create what effectively would be a common border that includes Mexico and Canada.

Christine Romans has the report.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On Capitol Hill, testimony calling for Americans to start thinking like citizens of North America and treat the U.S., Mexico and Canada like one big country.

ROBERT PASTOR, IND. TASK FORCE ON NORTH AMERICA: The best way to secure the United States today is not at our two borders with Mexico and Canada, but at the borders of North America as a whole.

ROMANS: That's the view in a report called "Building a North American Community." It envisions a common border around the U.S., Mexico and Canada in just five years, a border pass for residents of the three countries, and a freer flow of goods and people.

Task force member Robert Pastor.

PASTOR: What we hope to accomplish by 2010 is a common external tariff which will mean that goods can move easily across the border. We want a common security perimeter around all of North America, so as to ease the travel of people within North America.

ROMANS: Buried in 49 pages of recommendations from the task force, the brief mention, "We must maintain respect for each other's sovereignty." But security experts say folding Mexico and Canada into the U.S. is a grave breach of that sovereignty.

FRANK GAFFNEY, CENTER FOR SECURITY POLICY: That's what would happen if anybody serious were to embrace this strategy for homogenizing the United States and its sovereignty with the very different systems existing today in Canada and Mexico.

ROMANS: Especially considering Mexico's problems with drug trafficking, human smuggling and poverty. Critics say the country is just too far behind the U.S. and Canada to be included in a so-called common community. But the task force wants military and law enforcement cooperation between all three countries.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Indeed, an exchange of personnel that bring Canadians and Mexicans into the Department of Homeland Security.

ROMANS: And it wants temporary migrant worker programs expanded with full mobility of labor between the three countries in the next five years.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

ROMANS: The idea here is to make North America more like the European Union. Yet, just this week, voters in two major countries in the European Union voted against upgrading -- updating the European constitution. So clearly, this is not the best week to be trying to sell that idea.

DOBBS: Americans must think that our political and academic elites have gone utterly mad at a time when three-and-a-half years, approaching four years after September 11, we still don't have border security. And this group of elites is talking about not defending our borders, finally, but rather creating new ones. It's astonishing.

ROMANS: The theory here is that we are stronger together, three countries in one, rather than alone.

DOBBS: Well, it's a -- it's a mind-boggling concept. Christine Romans, thank you, as always.

My theory is that they just 'probe' the public mind by handing out part of their plans and observing how we react to it. Just like in that Tool song 'The Grudge'  . . " . . calculate what we will . . . and will not tolerate . . "

I am as is Void.

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