Re: Flu Pandemic

tiospaye1 wrote:

Right up front, virtually nothing appeared to be effective: colloidal silver, by the quart, zappers, and other electromedical devices, garlic, etc etc. What I finally hit upon, unfortunately toward the end of the cycle with my daughter, the rest of us having suffered through the thing, is a homeopathic prophylaxis of the flu itself.

When the World Health Organization comes up with their flu shot in the fall, various homeopathic companies will produce a homeopathic version of it. Ideally you should take the thing in the fall, as you would the flu shot itself.

Homeopathic remedies including the nosodes you mention have a history of beating chemical drug drug treatments for flu epidemics see
http://www.leaflady.org/coldflu.htm
Sometimes things like colloidal siver, zapers and ozone can cause a healing crisis and so you get the same syptoms as flu ie fever, mucous discharge, aching limbs if too large doses are taken without building up slowly, its just too rapid a detox of pathogens and toxins.

My family all take spirulina and have an ozone generator in the living room and none of us have had a cold or flu in 4 years, though that is anecdotal of course.

I do have colloidal silver and a zapper in my drug cabinet as a safeguard against disease as well as oxygen drops and hydrogen peroxide.
The UK authorities have finally produced a few hydrogen peroxide misters in Hospitals as this is the only thing they have found that will kill the MRSA superbug. Low level ozone generators would do the same job IMO but when it comes to oxygen/ozone therapies the authorities seem a  tad shy.
Anyway glad you found a remedy that worked, i used to work as a Homeopath and the nosode plus the  indicated remedy such as Gelsenium would be my first thought in case of the flu.
As you rightly say if the nosode is taken before the onset of the flu season they can work well as prophalatics and unlike flu jabs won't risk your long term health.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Definitely, the best protection against the flu is a strong immune system.  I do massage therapy and aromatherapy and I have watched people over the years learn how to improve their health.  I agree that herbs, colloidal silver, peroxide, and the like are all good tools for defense.  I advise people to buy a few herbs in oil and routinely apply them to the spine where they can disburse into the body systems.

I use: oregano and thyme (excellent for killing viruses that lay dormant in the spine such as chicken pox or shingles).  I also use: basil, peppermint, cypress, spearmint, marjoram.

These oils strengthen the system, so regular use is very beneficial.  I have customers that come every 3 months for an application.  This does not guarantee that you won't get the flu, but if you do, it will be milder and shorter duration.

I know many of you are interested in the chemtrails and feel that they are a cause of sickness. Jim Phelps is the inventor of the HAARP project and also  has had a lot to do with the chemtrails (a very complicated subject).  I posted the following site on another forum, and it caused a huge arguement - so please don't come back and yell at me if you don't like what it says. 
http://www.gargoylemechanique.com/chama … rview.html

There is so much on that site that we should really give it its own thread.  I'd like to go there to discuss if anyone is so inclined.

Enlightenment happens!  Attachment to the ego-self leads one into delusion; but faith in one's Buddha nature leads one to enlightenment.

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Everyone please give your thoughts on this story. It is circulating around the internet and it could be important info or disinfo, my intuition tells me theres something in this.
Firstly Ive felt for a long time that the whole purpose of chemtrails is to weaken the immune system before the super virus is unleashed and i feel it really is only a matter of time now before this plague is released on the global population. I think it could happen as soon as this year or 2006. 
It fits in too well with the whole illuminati idea of reducing the population down to a managable number BEFORE the global microchipping and NWO comes into effect. So i feel that the agenda is well into the advanced stages of the plan now.

Super Plague Coming, Intuitive Warns

  Says a massively deadly disease that weakens cell linings and flusters T-cells is about to be unleashed by conspiratorial international elite. Carrots said to be effective preemptive deterrent.

by Sterling D. Allan

Ephraim, UT (PRWEB) January 2 2004--An intuitive with demonstrated credibility has issued a warning that conspiratorial elements in the shadow government of the U.S. and other nations are about to unleash a massive plague in their efforts to drastically reduce the population of the earth down to what they consider to be a more "manageable" level.

According to the intuitive, who wishes to remain unnamed, the attack will take the form of a genetically engineered super bug that attacks the membranes of cells, causing them to lose their ability to maintain a proper pH balancing, thus leading to death. It also subverts the T-cell immunity of the body, causing it to go into an auto-destruct mode. The body's hyper reaction is what is deadly.

Seventeen prominent scientists have died in the past year under suspicious circumstances. The intuitive said they were investigating various facets in relation to the technology involved in this coming plague.

The bug is neither a virus nor a bacteria, but a prion, like in Mad Cow disease. The intuitive said it is called a "demiscel," and that the recent Mad Cow outbreak was from earlier tests being done.

The demiscel is passed by direct contact, ingestion, as well as airborne, making its spread versatile and rapid.

When the demiscel is unleashed, it will result in a deadly plague of proportions not seen in recent memory, analogous to the influenza epidemic of the early 1900s that killed some 70 million people worldwide.

The intuitive said at first people might confuse it with other syndromes such as SARS. The first symptoms are flue-like.

According to the intuitive, the elitists who are behind this scheme to unleash this apocalyptic plague have an immunization that they have disbursed to those who they deem fit to survive this plague.

The intuitive said that chemtrails have been used to weaken people's immune systems so that when they are exposed to this demiscel they will succumb. Chemtrails are created from nozzles installed on jet liners that emit chemicals while in flight. In 2001, in house resolution HR 2977 IH, Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio listed "chemtrails" as an "exotic weapons system" that should be eliminated.

The intuitive also said that the emaciation of nutrients in the food chain has also been done with the design of weakening people' immune systems and ability to survive this pending attack.

The intuitive said that carrots contain a combination of substances that naturally block the propagation of this demiscel, but that they need to be in a person's system before exposure, not after, when it will tend to be too late. A carrot a day is adequate to bolster a person's immune function to enable them to survive the demiscel. "They will get sick, but it will not be lethal."

Carrots are rich in antioxidants Beta Carotene and Glutathione, and vitamins A, B1, B2, C, and E, which are also considered antioxidants, which help fight free radicals. Glutathione helps the body recycle vitamin E, as well as replenish white blood cells. It also helps to strengthen cell membranes as well as T-cells.

The effect of the carrots is cumulative, so the longer a person has been eating them regularly, the better off they will be when exposed to this demiscel.

The intuitive said the conspirators would disburse the demiscel by breaking vials of the substance on floors in the airports of large cities, and other human thoroughfares such as subways and bus stations, to speed the spread of the disease. Chicago, Salt Lake City, Spokane, Dallas and New York were among the cities seen where this would be disbursed.

Just prior to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attack on America, this intuitive saw the Lord and wondered why he was so sad. He said he could not say. Then after the attack, the intuitive asked the Lord if that is why he had been so sad, and he confirmed this to be the case.

Recently, the intuitive again saw him with a similar demeanor, and she asked if something awful is about to happen again, and he said it was. The intuitive asked permission to go through the veil and visit with the Lord about this. Permission was granted, and she was educated about what is about to transpire.

She was told that she should propagate this information, especially about the carrots.

She said that infected cells resemble Swiss cheese. The demiscel infection itself is not what kills a person, but that the body's response to the infection is lethal. The body releases a watery, gelatinous, pink substance that is acidic in nature, and eats the body alive.

She said that if a healthy person has the right amino acids in their body, their body won't over compensate.

The demiscels attack the T-cells and the lymph system first. The demiscel resembles a potato with the filamentous ears protruding. She said the demiscel is able to adapt and mimic a cell's biology and gain entrance as if it was non-foreign.

She said the demiscel would mutate and that the protrusions would be barbed, increasing their ability to attack a cell.

If the intuitive is correct, one has to wonder what such conspirators would stand to gain by eliminating the weak from society. Those who are stronger are harder to control, not easier.

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REFERENCES

Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio mentioned Chemtrails as an exotic weapons system in HR 2977 IH: "Space Preservation Act of 2001"
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?c107:chemtrails

Scientists' deaths are under the microscope
http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/ubb/For … 00623.html

Search Google.com: Carrots+Health or Nutrition+Value+Carrots
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s01u8.html
http://www.betterjuice.com/features/carrots.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2000/sept/17/car … idants.htm

Search Google.com: Microbiologists+Dead

Search Google.com: Chemtrails

A copy of the above press release is located here:
http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Demiscel/pr040101.htm

Re: Flu Pandemic

From what i understand about the Spanish flu, it hit the strong and healthy worst for some reason.  My intuition of late is that this will be mitigated somehow, but I am trying to keep an eye on it.

Never Give Up!

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Bio warfare is what we're talking about here. Consider: February 2001, Australian scientists made a weaponized mousepox, similar to smallpox, as part of a mouse control project. They inserted into the viurus the gene that controls the production of mouse interlukin-4. The goal was to get pregnant mice to reject their own eggs. The result was a surplus of I-4. It killed 100% of the test mice. When the intuitive felt this wave, this recoil from the future, the intuitive was describing the weaponized form of smallpox.  There are no vaccines for these kind of germs.  ta

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Right, well about that bird flu, which Tom also mentions in http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=1793 so not sure where I should post but seems comfy right here.

I just saw an ad for 60 minutes or 20/20 some shite that that bird flu virus 'is only one mutation away from becoming a pandemic'.

I did'nt have time to see which country the story came from, may have been US, may have been NZ.
Perhaps it's just another failed attempt to introduce a super-bug, or perhaps it's a sleeper-bug.

I would be interested to hear what you guys think.

Peace  ")

"Would it help if I got out and pushed?"

"It might..."

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Free download here on how to beat the bird flu virus http://www.truthpublishing.com/survivinginfluenza.html
I think this is worth checking out as you can easily get the
herbs yourself and making a combination of all them seems to add a punch (whole is greater than the sum of the parts)

2 things which i know to be effective against flu as well as the Homeopathic nosode are Sambucol (elderberry extract) and hydrogen peroxide.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Say Barefoot, do you know of any things that cause the immulogic systems to go faster, quick response sort of thing.? I've done some reading on this, but from what I can see, it's the time from when you first infected  to the knowledge of such is when the game is lost. One has something like 72 hours from contact, amplification, then bloom. Your really sick by then. Is there something that would speed ones resources to cut into that 72 hours, give abody a little edge?

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Re: Flu Pandemic

Krazor wrote:

Say Barefoot, do you know of any things that cause the immulogic systems to go faster, quick response sort of thing.? I've done some reading on this, but from what I can see, it's the time from when you first infected  to the knowledge of such is when the game is lost. One has something like 72 hours from contact, amplification, then bloom. Your really sick by then. Is there something that would speed ones resources to cut into that 72 hours, give abody a little edge?

Certain herbs and supplements may well speed up the bodies immune response, see link on my above post and http://www.holistic.com/holistic/learni … enDocument
http://www.nutraingredients.com/product … ucan-shown

Also Kombucha tea seems to be a potent immune booster and  works as a prophylactic too.

Obviousley eating well and exercise and that stuff.

Homeopathic Prophylactics seem to be the best bet if you know something is going round see http://thinktwice.com/nosodes.htm also consider  daily zapping, colloidal silver, antiviral herbs and oxygen/ozone, grapefruit seed extract, black seed oil.

I know some people have aborted the flu for example with hydrogen peroxide (ear insulflation and orally) after the symptoms have begun, so all may not be lost, the important thing is treat as soon as there are symptoms.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Thankyou very much Doc.. Barefoot. MD. I've downloaded and printed, and it is now time to study. Much appreciated.  ta

Re: Flu Pandemic

This is something that I wasn't sure about posting, but it may be significant.  I believe that I met a group of Aboriginal Shamans during a meditation last week when I was attempting to disrupt the flu virus.  They were doing the same thing using sound.  Somehow they were copying the vibrations of healing herbs (I had a vision of a tree--tea tree maybe?) and using them to disrupt the viruses.  They also indicated that they have been doing this for the last several years. 

Not sure about all of this, but maybe it could give people some new ideas.

Never Give Up!

Re: Flu Pandemic

lyra wrote:
freeme wrote:

Garlic may be key to fighting the flu, in my opinion.

Kathy

What makes it work is the sulfur I think.  There's some dude out there touting the wonders of sulfur, he has ads in Nexus magazine and sells sulfur capsules or something you can injest.  I remembered reading his stuff, then when I researched garlic and saw that it's high in sulfur I made the connection.....it must be the sulfur.

Check this analysis on garlic:

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s01vy.html

The thing that caught my eye is the quality of proteins and aminoacids necessary for cell performance and growth.

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whywhywhy wrote:
lyra wrote:
freeme wrote:

Garlic may be key to fighting the flu, in my opinion.

Kathy

What makes it work is the sulfur I think.  There's some dude out there touting the wonders of sulfur, he has ads in Nexus magazine and sells sulfur capsules or something you can injest.  I remembered reading his stuff, then when I researched garlic and saw that it's high in sulfur I made the connection.....it must be the sulfur.

Check this analysis on garlic:

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s01vy.html

The thing that caught my eye is the quality of proteins and aminoacids necessary for cell performance and growth.

I am guessing thats MSM  a processed form of organic sulfur you're reffering to and it is claimed that MSM is an antiviral amongst other benefits.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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The best virus fighters I have found are Zicam nasal gel and Samucol (black elderbery extract). Colloidal silver I have no faith in. The zapper doesn't kill virus, although it does help raise the pH of the blood somehow. I have tested my morning urine for pH after sleeping with the zapper on, it is neutral to alkaline. I use a champion juicer for carrots, parsley, and whatever else I can find for a reasonable price. I always feel better for a day or two after the juice. Carrots supposedly contain monoatomic iridium which is a healing agent. Marcia Schafer mentions in her book "Confessions of a Galactic Anthropologist" about info channelled to her from aliens about iridium's healing properties. With the slew of dead microbiologists, it's clear that some sort of biowarfare or population reduction program is coming soon.

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There may be some good supplements out there that our good at fighting the flu virus , but how can we be sure that these are effective.

Its important not to forget the basics ,taking about 3000-5000 mg of vitamin c and vitamin e will help fight the virus tremendously.  Also i heard on the alex jones radio show tonight that the trace mineral selenium is very effective at fighting the virus.