Topic: The eyes have it

"The eyes are the window to the soul." -- 16th century proverb

BlackBox wrote:

I've read that the eyes can be divided by 12 to act as basically live-zodiacs/DNA biographies of the individual if the other knows how to read the eyes. Therefore some can truly be able to look into someone's soul if they know how.

BlackBox said this in the 'matrix dimensions' thread and it reminded me that I wanted to bring up this topic in a thread of its own. BlackBox, first off I'm wondering where you read this, and if you could provide anything else you read from the same source?

I have a certain theory about human eye color and how it relates to a person's soul and their frequency resonance. The Cassiopaeans have said that blue and green eyed genetics are of the same origin. More specifically they originate from the humans that came to (or were brought to) Earth from the planet that used to be between Mars and Jupiter. Anyway my theory has come from observing people and I started to notice a pattern of the kind of "vibes" I get from someone depending on their eye color. So I'm wondering: does anyone here have brown eyes?

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Hi seeker,

Yup, I'm a brown eyed girl.    But I have first cousins on my mom's side of the family with eyes that are so blue they look like they're glowing.   So I'm a mix.

I think this forum is one of the few places where such a topic could even be addressed without fear of racial accusations, and emotional knee jerk programmed reactions, because most of us here are familiar to some extent with channelled and / or spiritual material which gets into the topic of off-planetary origins of people.   I think most here will have the understanding that nobody is saying one race is better than the other, or eye color indicates inferior genetics, or anything crazy like that, but rather, is indicative of where one's ancestors originated from, if the off-planetary theory is in fact true. 

Personally, I've noticed via observing people for a long time that those with blue or gray blue eyes are more emotionally detached and colder than those with brown eyes.   They're more "cool headed", level headed, neutral and calm.   Brown eyed people consistantly come off as more emotional, passionate, with warmer friendlier personalities. 

Not to delve too off topic, but David Icke mentioned something in one of his books, I think "The Biggest Secret", about individuals with fair white skin, blue eyes and Rh- blood.   Well, that's my mom's side of the family.  Although my mom has brown eyes, she's VERy white, with freckles, has naturally auburn hair, Rh- blood and all of her siblings' kids, (my cousins) have these almost glowing blue eyes and white skin.   They're all Irish / English / Scottish.   I inherited the bulk of my look from my dad's side of the family.   He's completely different genetics from my mom, with his Italian and Hungarian........so totally different coloring I inherited.  I look nothing like my mom, have a personality that doesn't even resemble hers, and don't get along with her at all.   

As montalk will attest, there's the theory that "Soul marries with genetics."  I definately think there's something to this.   In my family, me and my dad, who have the same coloring and personalities, clicked.   My mom and my brother who always got along better coincidentally also have the same coloring, and the same sociopathic personalities.   I think it's a theory worth considering, if anybody's interested in taking the eye color speculation a step further.

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seeker wrote:

BlackBox, first off I'm wondering where you read this, and if you could provide anything else you read from the same source?

Damn you for making me type this out. Damn you to *&@^. Just kidding, it's my pleasure. big_smile

Earth, Mariniak, pg.201-202 wrote:

Before you agree to enter the physical plane, you go over in great detail the parameters of your most outrageous probabilities. You set up blueprints, and then you wait for the gap, the perfect electromagnetic window into physical reality. This window is a lineup of energies, directed by the heavenly bodies, that allows you to travel a road into your genetic code. One day the reading of astrological charts will reveal a correspondence between the alignment of planets and the arrangement of DNA. Currently, there are twelve houses in the zodiac, and there are twelve strands of DNA. The twelve strands of DNA are eventually going to show themselves in the iris of the eye, and you will be able to read the genetic purpose within the iris. If you divide the iris into twelve houses, like the wheel in a birthchart, each house will correspond to its own place in the body, much as it corresponds to a person's astrological imprinting of planetary and stellar energies at birth. Through a reflection in the eye, the twelve strands of DNA will eventually reveal their genetic codes of purpose and intent as stored in the blood. Many so-called mysteries will be revealed, liberating you from further deceit. It is through the eyes that you peek into the window of the soul, and where the deepest imprinting and exchange occurs among all species.

I'm also brown-eyed. I brought up this subject a while ago...not sure if it was on this forum, but no one ever showed any interest. Might have been casschat actually, but they probably discussed it for years, hence the boredom.

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Lyra wrote:

Personally, I've noticed via observing people for a long time that those with blue or gray blue eyes are more emotionally detached and colder than those with brown eyes.     They're more "cool headed", level headed, neutral and calm.     Brown eyed people consistantly come off as more emotional, passionate, with warmer friendlier personalities.

Lyra, this took me by surprise.  I was expecting you to say the opposite.  I have blue/green eyes and although I'm working on being emotionally detached, that is hardly the case.  Plus, all my life I've been admonished for being way too emotional and passionate.  As for warm and friendly...well, I think so.  (BB might disagree <grin>)

My sister is brown eyed.  She is one of the warmest people I know, so I can agree here...but she is also one of the most level headed people.  She's always been.  Very clear thinker.

I wouldn't say though that she is passionate or emotional.

So...at least in my family things seem to be mixed about.  Now, my mother was brown eyed and probably one of the least friendly people.  She tended to be very much a snob and quite cold.  I think it was an act on her part because actually she was very shy. Now my dad, who had the most incredibly piercing blue eyes, was charming, funny and warm.  And hardly emotionally detached. 

Perhaps the entire family came from a different universe entirely <grin>.  But come to think of it, as I scan through my friends mentally, I think you have observed things quite well.  Except for the anamoly of my family -

My ex, has very blue eyes and is indeed emotionally detached and colder.  My youngest step daughter has piercing blue eyes and is very clear headed, usually calm and although can wax enthursiastic is basically not very passionate about things.  While my step son, has deep brown eyes, almost black, is extremely warm, very emotional. 

Interesting thread indeed.

Thanks Lyra.  This will be fun to start watching for, to see if it pans out.

Christine

edited for typos, clarity.

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Errr...we can't attach labels like that to just eye-colour. Eye-colour is due to different strands of human-genetics, or due to mutation/adaptation of genetics (Darwin's Finches).

Emotional/Passionate characteristics are too complicated to discern from. Adamics generate emotional frequencies that are self-sustaining, legitimate, and sincere, while OP's emulate these characteristics from residual vibrations they simply mimic. Yet OP's can be brown-eyed, blue-eyed, etc. Let's at least keep the eye-colour discernment to where it belongs, which is a nice little pandora box we can unleash for later when we have more information. wink

And don't suddenly get presumptious on how I think of you Christine. big_smile

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Because eyecolor only depends on a few genes, there are numerous other genes that could be of a more recent off-planet lineage but which won't be evident by eye color alone. Nevertheless, blue and green eyes being a recessive trait means that those who have them are more likely to have those off-planet genetics in purer ratios. But it also means that since brown is dominant,  someone can have many "kantek genes" in their DNA but be born with brown eyes.

Regarding OPs and non-OPs - the body itself is just a vehicle, and its genetic code dictates among other things its inherent biases and abilities. So the residing animating energy, be it an individualized soul or group soul extension, makes use of these potentials and biases in accordance with its choice or nature. Genetics provide the toolbox, and the soul chooses how to use the tools. Thanks to selective incarnation, a craftsman is given tools appropriate to his expertise - and so we are born into bodies that match what we need. OPs are wildcards.

Nevertheless, I've noticed a weak trend among eyecolor categories as well. All these have a large set of exceptions, but if I had to pick a trend with each color, I'd say Browns tend to be earthy, blues more reserved, greens either really nice or really psycho, hazels on the psychic side, and yellow slit eyes with human-eating behavior. Just kidding about that last one.

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7 (edited by Christine B. 2004-05-21 00:03:38)

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Tom and all,

I hope you'll forgive this seque but I've been very perplexed about something supposedly the C's said about the Semetic gene.  That there is a gene which is found amongst, not all, Semetics which is why the Controllers are trying to suppress the Jews and Arabs because it is that gene which opens during "the wave" and helps those with it, transcend and perhaps those even in the proximity of them.

Your mention above about recessive genes (with eye color) being more likely to have those off-planet genetics in purer ratios got me thinking about this Semetic gene thing.

Specifically, if one had a distant relative (great grandfather) who was 1/2 Jewish, does this make the Jewish gene (of the type the C's mentioned) recessive? 

Or am I mixing apples and oranges? 

Thanks.

Christine B.

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Christine, it's hard to tell because Judaism is a religion only loosely tied to the semitic people, meaning nonsemitic people can identify themselves as Jews and likewise some semitic people can be unaware of their lineage because their ancestors left Judaism. The majority of Jews today are not semitic by definition, but descended from the khazar people of southern Russia who converted to Judaism in the 700s. Geneticists claim that arabs and jews are both semitic and genetically virtually identical - but being that the khazar jews aren't really semitic, it's ironic that many palestinians are therefore more "jewish" than many jews in Israel.

This goes only to show the high degree of uncertainty when it comes to identifying the "semitic gene" within oneself. Perhaps it's a "wait and see" type of thing. As for dominant and recessive traits, what this means is that if you have conflicting genes in you, the dominant one will be active, while the recessive one stays in inactive within you and can be passed on to your children, some of whom will have it be active if their other parent also has that recessive trait to reinforce it. So you may be brown eyed but carry an inactive blue-eyed gene, for example. I'm not sure whether this applies to the "semitic gene" because theoretically speaking, even if it were dominant, it wouldn't be activated until the wave.

Who knows...the confusion in bloodlines and inactivation until the wave may be a good thing. Perhaps it keeps these people "under cover" and therefore less likely to be discovered before their time. One thing I noticed about "family of light" genetics (to use Marciniak's phrase) is that they are not geographically concentrated like the STS bloodlines are. Whereas STS bloodlines tend to be kept tight together through selective breeding among royal lineages, the "family of light" bloodlines come together synchronistically at the right moment, a lot like a combination lock starts out with different alignments that eventually come together for the right soul to incarnate into the right body at the right time.

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Hi

I belong to the blue eyed grouping.

I wonder what Crystal Gayle was singing about when she sang:

"Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue" :-D

Regards

J

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BlackBox wrote:

  Errr...we can't attach labels like that to just eye-colour.


Nobody here is "attaching labels".   We're discussing personal observations, which most definately have merit in a topic such as this since it helps lead to other ideas and steers the conversation in interesting ways.     


BlackBox wrote:

   Emotional/Passionate characteristics are too complicated to discern from.


Agreed.   But that doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of people I've known or met who were blue or blue-gray eyed were far more emotionally neutral and detached, if not flat out cold, then were the brown eyeds.   In my reality and personal experiences, this is a fact.    Doesn't mean it's an across-the-board judgement on everybody, and it certainly doesn't have to hold true for you and your personal experiences, but it's true in mine.   

BlackBox wrote:

   Adamics generate emotional frequencies that are self-sustaining, legitimate, and sincere, while OP's emulate these characteristics from residual vibrations they simply mimic. Yet OP's can be brown-eyed, blue-eyed, etc.


At the point that you had written your post, nobody was talking about OP's, Adamics, souled versus non-souled, or anything that rash.   I can't speak for others, but I would *NEVER* ever even so much as HINT that eye color is ANY sort of indicator of soul quality.   That's absolute rubbish.  So please don't insinuate that we were going down that road, because we weren't.

BlackBox wrote:

   Let's at least keep the eye-colour discernment to where it belongs, which is a nice little pandora box we can unleash for later when we have more information. wink.

And let's not try to dictate how this thread should / will go, alrighty?  wink  Not to be all mean and snotty, but honestly, in your post you jumped to an assumption and put words in our mouths about OP's and souled versus non-souled people in relation to eye color, which we hadn't even mentioned!   Then you preceded to admonish us for it, and told us to "keep the discernment where it belongs".

At any rate, back to the topic......................

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Uh, mine are hazel but I'm no psychic.  I am human, and I have a soul where I found my true self, my integrity.  Now, whatever I say or do is based on that integrity and not on what my emotions try to dictate.  So, I'd say my emotions are balanced, and when I feel them I know they are true so I can express them freely.  The emotions I feel strongest and express often are compassion, joy, and love.  The emotions I no longer feel much, such as fear and anger, I don't feel a need to express very often or as dramatically as I once did. 

I don't know how my eye color fits in with it.  I never consider the physical representation of the person which can be deceptive (I mean, tinted contact lenses for pete's sake).  I listen and watch for signs of their integrity.  This is how I take a person's measure.  That's how I know what they're really made of.

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Beeeuuuuarkkk!
Sorry (wiping his lips)

"Brown eyed people consistantly come off as more emotional, passionate, with warmer friendlier personalities."

Erm sorry..Touchy subject...Do they also have good sense of rythm?

I am black + white with a touch of native blood floating in there within the white and amazingly beautiful pale hazel eyes. No I am not trying to find a date and NO they are not yellow Mr Montalk!  ;-)

Stereotypes must be destroyed. I do not think there was some racist views in there however ALL stereotypes must be destroyed. So do ignorance, bigotism, controlling behaviour, lies, cultural elitism, injustice and fixed realities.

I thought of writting down a list of stereotypes which some still perceive as being valid but I've changed my mind. I am sure you know some very bad ones yourselves.

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Watch out Rota, lyra bites!

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We could all remember that our appearance can change, does change.  We get older for one thing.  Then there's always the possibility that the face and body you once knew can be changed by disease or accident.  Sometimes people become almost unrecognizable.  Sometimes people have strokes and can't express their emotions the same as us.  We don't know what people we meet are going through, we don't know anything about them, so how can we judge their behavior?  It's the judging thing in us that's got to go!

Don't you love the variety humans represent?  That we don't all look the same like St. Bernards or moose or tuna?  I just could never accept that I shouldn't associate with people of another race, culture, religion, or social status, and that's the kind of home I grew up in; just knew in my heart that wasn't true and that no one would ever keep me from appreciating what everyone has to share.   Going with my heart instead of what I was being "taught" was me clinging to my inner true self, my integrity.  If I had listened to the white adults around me, my world would be cold and small like theirs, and I wouldn't know 90% of what I know now from interacting and appreciating everyone just for themselves and not from my expectations of them.  I don't have "the judge" in there telling me who's "worthy" of my attention.  I can enjoy the natural outgoingness that I was born with; that we are all born with.  It's the beliefs imposed on us by parents, school, church, and all that suppress this as we grow up.

And we get to know and appreciate people we meet in cyberspace where we may never see them at all.  So, how can what we look like matter here?  Why should it matter wherever we are?  It's what's inside that counts, and we should learned that from our experiences on line.

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Torarota wrote:

Stereotypes must be destroyed. I do not think there was some racist views in there however ALL stereotypes must be destroyed. So do ignorance, bigotism, controlling behaviour, lies, cultural elitism, injustice and fixed realities.

Sterotypes are statistical trends that become used in prejudist ways. What are we talking about here? Being prejudist against people because of their eyecolor? Of course not. When you say "stereotypes must be destroyed", I totally agree with that. When this potentially implies "statistical trends must be thrown out because they are prejudist" then I disagree - it depends on how universal you claim them to be, and toward what end you use this as justification.

As Lyra wrote regarding BB saying "emotional/passionate characteristics being too complicated to discern from":

Agreed. But that doesn't change the fact that the overwhelming majority of people I've known or met who were blue or blue-gray eyed were far more emotionally neutral and detached, if not flat out cold, then were the brown eyeds.   In my reality and personal experiences, this is a fact.    Doesn't mean it's an across-the-board judgement on everybody, and it certainly doesn't have to hold true for you and your personal experiences, but it's true in mine.

So you see that 1) this is merely a personal observation of personal trends, and 2) this does not imply an across the board judgment (which would be prejudice), 3) this doesn't have to hold true for anyone else's experiences.

As long as we don't enter the territory of stereotypes, then there's nothing to worry about here, but the trick is in properly understanding what a "sterotype" is - which as you wrote, Torarota, is associated with everything from bigotry to racism and to elitism. That is, anything leading to pre-judgment. As for discernment, that is a type of "post judgment" once the facts are in, once actions have spoken for themselves. To use bad consequences of the first (pre-judgment) to rebuke the second (post-judgment) leads to inapplication of discernment and all the trouble that follows. Well, that's my opinion anyway..

I think political correctness can be just as damaging as prejudice when it hushes otherwise interesting exploration of theories - for example, blue-green eyes being tied to more recent off planetary genetics, or perhaps DNA activation causing changes in iridological patterns, etc...

Soloflecks wrote:

And we get to know and appreciate people we meet in cyberspace where we may never see them at all.  So, how can what we look like matter here?  Why should it matter wherever we are?  It's what's inside that counts, and we should learned that from our experiences on line.

Right on! Actions and intentions are what matter, which stem from what resides at the core rather than the shell of those we interact with. No one disputes that. Notices that the discussion so far on this thread haven't gone against this common sense advice, but has rather explored some of its more radical implications.

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