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Re: Psychoactive parasites

czyx wrote:

It struck me then that it was important to reflect on the generosity of the planet every time you eat. It got me thinking of the ritual of praying aloud before you eat, how it is a corrupted outward display of this meditative act. It's as though some nosy person thousands of years ago noticed a saint who had the habit of pausing to silently reflect on the intelligence and beneficence of the universe for providing his meals. After asking the saint what he was doing, this nosy man went home to berate his good-for-nothing children. Afterwards he forced them to pray aloud, (so he could make sure they weren't cheating) in hopes that by imitating the saint they could persuade the intelligence of the universe to enchant their food. The eating of this food imbued with the goodness of God would make them good--and worthy of some share of the reverent treatment the saint received from the people. And thus another empty tradition was born!

Here is another reason why that is such good advise.

http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight … _emoto.htm

Some amazing pictures including a very demonic looking face in water exposed to the name Adolph Hitler overnight on a label.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Water. H2O, the H is 13.5 billion yrs old. First particle, from the abode of God as it were. Hydogen sings the Hydrogen song. It's not alive so to speak but rather it is the eyes, the ears, the touch of the deity. It transmits the vision from your eyes. It's great on a hot day too! Water carries you. It cleans you. Everything is more fun with water. Parasites are best killed by desiccation. In all fairness to the Goddess, water is improved with Gatorade. bye.

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Parasites are best killed by dessication! Yes sir they are!
That includes the astral ones too! 
Don't give them anything to eat and they either
leave or die.
TP

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Here are some interesting items I came across recently:

Karmapolis.be interviewed by metahistory.org on mental parasites from a Gnostic point of view

Mind Parasites, Energy Parasites and Vampires - By Jonathan Zap

Do Parasites Rule the World? - By Carl Zimmer

--Justin
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Whoa czyx!  Mama Mia!  I just read the Karmapolis.be thing.
This is some really heavy duty stuff.  Thank you!  I'll check out the other
links when I can.  Thanks again!
TP
PS:  As I was reading about the Archons I heard several explosions outside my window!
My neighbor' air conditioner exploded sounding like a bunch of ammunition going off
and smoke was rising from it.
Now tell me that was a coincidence...!
TP

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The notion that tiny creatures we've largely taken for granted are such a dominant force is immensely disturbing. Even after Copernicus took Earth out of the center of the universe and Darwin took humans out of the center of the living world, we still go through life pretending that we are exalted above other animals. Yet we know that we, too, are collections of cells that work together, kept harmonized by chemical signals. If an organism can control those signals--an organism like a parasite--then it can control us. And therein lies the peculiar and precise horror of parasites.

Ha ha - tell that to the aliens in War of the Worlds.  They were possibly days away from totally exterminating the world of humans - then - voila, the parasites, germs and such did them in.  It makes me feel good to think that the littlest can bring down the biggest.  Sort of like David and Goliath doncha think?   I think there is more simbiosis going on than control.

Enlightenment happens!  Attachment to the ego-self leads one into delusion; but faith in one's Buddha nature leads one to enlightenment.
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Sheesh..... Way to ruin the movie for those of us who did not see it.

I'd Give my Right Arm to be Ambidextrous
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Geez I'm so sorry.  That movie is decades old, I just assumed that everyone already knew how it ends.  You must be VERY young.   So sorry.

Enlightenment happens!  Attachment to the ego-self leads one into delusion; but faith in one's Buddha nature leads one to enlightenment.
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Sorry twizttid 1, but H.G. Wells wrote the book back before 1933 when Orson Wells put
on a national radio play which caused panic in the U.S. because people thought it was for real.
I mean, people jumped out of buildings thinking it was the end of the world.  Then, in
1955 or so I saw the movie and it scared the bejeezus out of me. 
I guess it's hard for some of us boomers to realize that some of you younguns just
got on this merry go round.
TP

25 Reply by twizttid1 (edited by twizttid1 2005-07-07 12:11:07)

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No no, no need to apologize, I know it's been around for decades and I'm aware of all the insanity it caused way back when it was being read on the radio..... and I'm sure many of us know how the story ends....BUT, for those of us who reads the post will have the entire story in a nutshell!  Even though it's not REALLY about the aliens, it's about what a man needs to do in order to ensure he and his kids survive.

I'm not REALLY young.... I'm 26
but thankfully I saw the movie 2 nights ago!

I'd Give my Right Arm to be Ambidextrous

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The War of the Worlds (1898), a novel of an invasion of Martians. The story appeared at a time when Schiaparell's discovery of Martian "canals" Percival Lowell's book Mars (1895) arose speculations that there could be life on the Red Planet. The narrator is an unnamed "philosophical writer" who tells about events that happened six years earlier. Martian cylinders land on earth outside London and the invaders, who have a "roundish bulk with tentacles" start to vaporize humans. The Martians build walking tripods which ruin towns. Panic spreads, London is evacuated. Martians release poisonous black smoke. However, Martians are slain "by the humblest things that God, in his wisdom, has put on this earth."

http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/hgwells.htm

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Krazor wrote:

There could be a connection between parasites and human or animal CNS systems. As parasites shrug off their cuticle a residue of metabolic waste becomes accumulated in the host. A condition known as verminous intoxication occurs. Taking a header on a freeway starts getting attractive. My feeling is that there are thresholds that must be met by a minimun number of parasites before they can be connected electrically through spikules and proboscus. Many species have crude teeth and would be able to bite onto a neuron.

An article at New Scientist recently came out that may explain how these parasites interface with the host's nervous system:

New Scientist wrote:

A parasitic worm that makes the grasshopper it invades jump into water and commit suicide does so by chemically influencing its brain, a study of the insects’ proteins reveal.
...
Biron and colleagues found that the adult worms – those ready to prime their hosts for a watery death – altered the central nervous system function of their hapless hosts by producing certain molecules mimicking the grasshoppers’ own proteins.
...
And grasshoppers housing the parasitic worm expressed different proteins in their brains than uninfected grasshoppers. Some of these proteins were linked to neurotransmitter activities. Others included those linked to geotactic behaviour – the oriented movement of an organism in response to gravity.

--Justin

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To really scare yourself silly about parasites one must get a grip of the magnitude. There are something of the order of 56 varities of hookworm. A nasty beast. Each one can change to fit in with its host unnoticed. Here's the part that causes me to get hyper-viligent, they can spread throughout the human population by food, water, dust, penetration of the foot, and it's an excellent STD. Some are rated as superior bio-weapons. Physical contact through any method can cause transference of these critters. Many strains are unknown, some cannot be cured. All can influence your decision making capacity. Be careful Czyx. You already know too much. There are 945 million cases of hookworm currently going. Wear shoes.  ta.

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Hi czyx,

Funny you should mention Heinlein in this regards.

To me the most terrifying parasite is something I call the an "ego slug".  I envision our "upbringing", our "education" and our (so called) "culture" as being processes that generate these little nasties in our psychi.  When enough have formed, the slugs swarm.  Keep in mind that a swam acts as one unified creature.  This swarm, we call an ego.

Perhaps I should say "I" call the ego.

The tie to Heinlein is that I took the phrase "slug" from his book "Puppet Masters", in which he envisioned a parasite that took control of the human host and controlled that hose for their own purposes,  submerging the consciousness (the Self) to the back seat.

We spend much of our lives trying to find that Self.

Well, at least some of us do.  Well, OK, very, very few of us do.  LOL.

Anyhow, it's kinda silly, I know.  But it helps me to visualize... which is an important step.  It also helps to have named the "enemy".  Naming is an important step. 

As I self observe, I will try to individualize my behaviors, feelings, actions... and mentally try extract the source... the slug.  A process kind of like seperating  an it from the swarm.

And I'll keep that bastard in my consiousness and beat the hell out of it.

At least I got one of the bastards!

Makes me feel good, it does.  And ready to look for more.

I know this is a bit off topic, from the intent of your initial post.  But, hey, this is my first real post.... so I had to start somewhere.

One question, if I may.  Have you (or anyone) ever read the book "Sanctuary"?  It posits that the physical parasites (the ones you DO mean to be discussing) are actually manifestations of vibration within the our life force. 

... so perhaps my post is not that far off topic.

Anyhow, it would be interesting if any of the realmers have read that book, to hear their views.

Regards,
Flinter

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Hi Flinter,
Your post is definitely ON topic, because after you've cleaned out your body,
you have to clean out your mind.  I think your example is a very good analogy
of what really goes on in our psyche's.  And it gives us a good visualization tool
in order to even think about such things.  We may all have these attachments
that we've been carrying around unconsciously.  When you think of who the
real you is, whom do you choose?
I never read Heinlein's book The Mind Parasites.  Didn't have to.  The title says
it all.  Once you become aware of the 3D creatures that try to hitch a ride on/in
us what about those that we can't see with a microscope? 
Regards,
Tom Paine