Topic: Being Replaced

So I've written about this friend of mine before on this forum and here is another tidbit.

I have a friend who claims to be an abductee, etc., etc.  He's very guarded about it.  He's really only shared with me in "stories" he's written about alien abduction. 

Another friend of mine he has talked to about it extensively.  Last weekend, on a campout, my friend told me more about this friends' experiences.  Mind you, any information is difficult to come by because the "go-between" friend is a total skeptic and disbelieves whatever he's told categorically.

Nonetheless, the information I've gotten (piece by piece) has proven to be very consistent with everything I've read and heard about the phenomenon.

Last weekend the go-between friend told me specifically that our friend believes he was trained/is being trained for a special task in the future by the aliens.  He also believes that he's been...replaced somehow. 

My go-between friend said our friend wrote him a letter to tell him this and told him to never ask him about it because he wouldn't remember anyway.  Apparently, he has moments of lucidity when he is "him," and other moments when he doesn't remember anything about being replaced.

Have any of you heard of a similar situation?  Is it possible that ETs could "screw up" in replicating a person--or whatever they do--and that part of the person's former memory could remain?  Or, perhaps, the person's spirit is still attached to their body, but doesn't have full control while an ET attachment has most of it?

My abductee friend passes through periods of being extremely open to all kinds of spiritual, ET phenomena, and then--strangely--he becomes totally skeptical/"logical" and is a materialist to the nth degree.

You can't change a tiger's stripes,
but you can avoid its teeth.

2 (edited by montalk 2005-06-30 11:13:57)

Re: Being Replaced

There is discussion of this in Karla Turner's works. Different types of replication appear possible, one of which involves sticking the same soul into a newly replicated body.

None other than the Cosmic Awareness material explains why this is necessary - the body is like a recording medium and the soul cannot be programmed much beyond what is already encoded into the body, so if a new body is grown then like a blank disc it will accept whatever data is impressed upon it. Therefore the soul is removed from the old body, severely reprogrammed, and inserted into the new body.

Another method involves letting the majority of the soul/spirit go on through death, but keeping a small portion of it. Like a hologram, even a smaller piece somewhat resembles the whole. This smaller piece is then put into a replicate body to "run it" complete with all the memories and nuances as before, however the core individual has passed on and what remains behind is a programmed shell. Nevertheless my impression is that some level of former consciousness remains, although it is detached and the person is not quite the same on deeper levels.

For source material on this subject, be sure to check out the Human Simulacra document I assembled:

http://montalk.net/matrix/98/human-simulacra

Also, watch out for being led around by the gills. Some people are not in control of themselves and acquire ephemeral and superficial interests, personal histories, etc... that are nothing more than bait on a hook to keep truthseekers on a line. They are not quite right, something is fishy and glib about them, very wishy washy and intuitively you might get the impression they are like sock puppets because they are not all there, though something else can be at times. Lots of promises and intrigue but never answers or delivery, just leading you around and around. Not saying this is necessarily the case with your friend's friend, but I do know such individuals are around and serve as bait for the naive. I got reeled in a few times until I learned, so just passing on the caution.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

Re: Being Replaced

Thanks, montalk.  I will look over the Human Simulacra material.  I've already digested most of it, but I don't remember the sections you brought up.

I will be careful about my friend (friend's friend).  I try to limit my association with both of them actually.  They both have what I think are delusions of grandeur, and I've definitely felt "baited" by one.  Both seem to always produce the impression that they're far more interested in, or open to, spiritual things than they really are.  I end up sharing my thoughts and feelings and experiences usually only to be criticized and sometimes energetically "whacked" (invalidated).  ...Telltale signs of MCS-overshadowing and maybe OPs...

You can't change a tiger's stripes,
but you can avoid its teeth.

Re: Being Replaced

Yeah, I try to keep an open mind and hear what people have to say and let their actions and words speak for themselves. For some it becomes clear pretty soon where they are coming from. It's only when we have false assumptions and lack of awareness that we tend to overlook the little warning signs and irrationally redouble our efforts to find meaning and sincerity where there is nothing of that kind. I know people with strange experiences can be shy in sharing for fear of ridicule, but there's still an intuitive impression of sincerity and vulnerability there versus others who are simply being coy to manipulate.

Here is the excerpt from the Cosmic Awareness material that I mentioned:

CosmicAwareness wrote:

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QUESTIONER:

Okay. “I don’t understand why it is easier for the aliens to kill someone and then force back their soul into the Robotoid body, makes it easier to reprogram them to do things that would have been morally repugnant to them in their previous body.�

COSMIC AWARENESS:

This Awareness indicates that this is not what this Awareness has indicated at any time, that aliens were killing them in order to use their soul in some other body, to get them to do something they would not have done otherwise. This is conjecture. This Awareness indicates that It has indicated that the alien’s technology–and this can be used by others besides the aliens themselves–the alien technology as having been used to record the psyche or information or soul qualities of an individual.

It is possible for these entities to extract a recording, an electronic recording of one’s memories, psyche and vibrations, including the personality, and to put these into a synthetic replica of the entity. This Awareness indicates that the actions have been done for numerous years as have been described in the Dr. Beter tapes; that it does not even require the first entity be killed in order to extract this recording or this information and to transplant the recording to the personality, etc., into a double.

The double can exist along with the original. It is seldom exactly the same, but is usually very much the same. There is always something lost in the transfer. This Awareness indicates that the double can also be altered in terms of its information, so that it can be reprogrammed more easily than the original. This Awareness indicates it is in this way that an entity may be caused to take a position that is different from the position the original held, because the new programming or the collection of vibrations that hold the information of the individual when transplanted to a new body can be altered with new programming because it is not based on direct experience.

The information the original obtained was obtained by direct experience linked with emotions. The information, when it is transferred, does not have that same depth of attachment and therefore, can be altered more easily. This Awareness indicates that this is not necessarily a transfer of the soul; the aliens do have the ability to sever the soul or cause a split in the soul or move the soul of an entity into someone else.

This, of course, as being subject to a definition of what is meant by the soul. There’s a certain aspect of an entity that goes on, and that may be termed the true soul. There is still another aspect of the entity that is the emotional passion associated with the magnetic center of an entity and it may be moved it may be severed from the etheric body and from the physical body and this results in a kind of splitting of the soul.

It is not necessarily the ultimate spirit of the entity, but it can be a great injury to the soul of the entity so that the soul development, if left to progress naturally, would be different from the soul development that is tampered with by alien technology and injured in the process of transfer. It is for this reason that many of those in other areas who have sent some of their best to the earth to assist on the earth are very concerned and are considering pulling them out because they are
receiving them back with warped, twisted, broken souls that cannot easily be repaired.

This Awareness indicates the problem here is language. The term “soul�  in one use is different from what another may mean by “soul� . In speaking of the immortal soul; that part which is indestructible, referring to this as the life of the entity the more permanent part of the entity, this may be but likened unto a denser part of the larger soul in which there are lesser parts that are not so dense that can be severed and can be split off and put into another body. You will retain the same essence of the entity, but without the depth of soul.

This Awareness indicates that this is extremely complicated when attempting to communicate it in words rather than energies. If entities can see behind the words to the energies that make up the soul, and realize that the soul is not just a thing, It is an energy that is accumulating experience and that there are parts of that energy that are denser than others, that are more permanent than others, and that every little incident is added to the overall complex known as the soul, but that many of these incidents can be lost, can be forgotten without the soul itself being destroyed or lost and forgotten, or these incidents can continue to compact and grow and develop into a larger and more compressed soul, so that all of these incidents are part of the soul.

If you can understand what makes up the soul, that it is an accumulation of experience, then it becomes more easy to understand what is meant when one speaks of the severing of the soul. A part can be cut off, whereby one loses experiences, loses memories, loses a part of one’s essence, and is returned, remaining immortal but damaged from the experience of alien severing of one’s soul.

If you can understand that, rather than simply seeing words, then perhaps you can understand what is meant by this concept of transferring a soul or transferring energies or personalities from an original being to its counterpart replica. This Awareness indicates it is a fact that many entitles who have known the original and who then meet the replica will comment. “It looks like him, it claims to be him, but it isn’t the same person I used to know.�

FOLLOW-UP QUESTION:

The terminology is confusing. Can we accurately say then that the Robotoids and the synthetics are artificially created creatures and sometimes imbued with soul-stuff by the aliens, and the walk-ins are living humans that have abandoned their body; their soul has either abandoned it, or been pushed out and taken over by an alien soul?

COSMIC AWARENESS:

This is in the affirmative. The personality that has been imbedded on the brain (this in reference to the walk-ins) in terms of its recording of events and memories, remains with the body. The brain serves in the same way as a cassette tape recording stays on the tape and has its impression on the tape, whereas the etheric astral or soul energies may also carry these same memories.

An entity entering into a body that is abandoned by a soul will still have access to the entity’s memory of events. The entity will still be able to recognize friends and associates, certain jobs and skills, and will in general appear to be the same person, but the entity generally knows that he is someone else in this body, and generally those who know the entity closely will recognize a major change; that the entity is like the one before, but is different, appears to be a different person. Sometimes the walk-in is much more enjoyable to be around than the original.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Re: Being Replaced

ughh... Die aliens....