Mental Health Screening Now Mandated In Schools. (Page 1 of 3)

The Supreme Court just took away property rights too.  Local governments can now confiscate property for "economic development".

This is Orwellian New Speak.   Black is white, up is down, left is right, bad is good, slavery is freedom.........welcome to "1984". 

This is why I stand by my decision to not have children.   I will not be bringing them into this society, thank you.

On a side note Ayla, add to your growing list of police state rules and laws the inevitable ban on nutritional supplements.  They tried it several years back here in the U.S. but it was unsuccesful.   Since it is sucessful in other countries it's only a matter of time before it happens here.  There's talk once again of the bans pushed through.

Also add:   the inevitable draft.  Right now their military database of highschool students sounds like a last ditch emergency effort on their part to grab up somebody, anybody, but we all know what's going to happen eventually.   And it won't just be for males, and it will extend to those in their early 30's.

I thought the UK was bad enough but there is no way concerned  parents here would comply with this, i and many i know would just remove our children from schools home teach and shun all officials.

There was a major outcry here when school nurses were given permission to give underage girls the contraceptive pill without parental concent let alone highly dangerous and experimental mind control drugs that a significant number of parents know the truth about and would never allow their children to have, plus the numerous law suits going on against some of these drug companies for junk science,  cover ups and side effects. Ritalin is a very dirty word to use among the more aware parent which sends shivers down our spines.

It has been proven that  the vast majority of so called "mental problems" with children are down to diet poor diet and and toxins such as lead , aluminum and mercury and vaccinations/drugs.

Welcome to the facist NWO and the real terrorists,  its a double edged sword though as more and more of us are becoming aware of this mass illusion, drugs, death by doctoring, control of our children etc and making our own choices, they are being forced to getting us to comply with big brother by exposing their real intentions for all to see.

Wait until  several million people find that they cannot buy nutritional supplements anymore for a big eye opener.
Its common knowledge that chemical drugs kill masses and the tide is turning against allopathic medicine as droves are rejecting it in favour of more natural and effective treatments.
A confrontation is on its way as our Governments and multi national companies are forcing us to see them for what they truly are.

Yes School Nurses and Doctors are allowed to prescribe contraceptive pills and the morning after pill to underage girls in the UK without the parents knowledge or consent.
It was part of the Governments drive to cut teenage pregnancies.

Well there is no shortage of topics. Ranging from the mental evaluations, zero tolerance, NCLB failures, military databases.... The list goes on.

Which reminds me, I recieved a news letter yesterday from the National Guard. Now granted when I was younger I used to sign up for this crap, but other than a monthly e-mail from the Navy, I've recieved nothing.

Guess that means I'm in that database.

This topic caught my eye as my family is going through something related. In April my 17-year-old son wrote a "release of emotions" as he has been taught to do. You know ... write, paint, play music, yell, pound pillows, the type of things you do to release pent-up shtuff so you don't act out on dissonant emotions. Unfortunately, his pad and pencil of the moment was his AIM profile. He thought since he clicked "Hide" no one could see his profile, and he typed away. Alas, a schoolmate (13-year-old girl) saw it and got concerned. For various reasons, my son had mentioned "if I killed myself" and "if I shoot up the school." Now, these are not things he would do, but because of tensions in the school system lately, he did what normal teenagers do (I think, anyway). Like, "I'm so pissed I could kill the teacher" or "This school is so bogus I could blow it up." Tension release, not threats.

Alas, the girl turned in the info to the dean of students who proceeded to call the county law enforcement agency. My son has never been in trouble with the law or with schools, has no record of any sort, is friendly, kind, teachers all want more like him in their class, etc., etc. But instead of calling me and finding out what might be going on with him because this was so unlike him, the school called the law.

My son was home that day, and about noon I answered the door to find 2 county detectives waving their badges, entering my home, walking into my son's room, getting him out of bed, forcing him to dress in front of them, sitting him down to talk about this (which he didn't remember writing exactly because once he released it, it was gone), and hauling him down to the hospital for a mental health assessment "for his own safety." All without a warrant. To me it's a clear violation of the 4th Amendment, but I've also learned since that there is a juvenile protection code in which, if a juvenile indicates he might injure himself or another, they can take them without a warrant.

Along with this they took our computer. I mentioned to the dics about getting a warrant before they did, and they said they'd get one later if they needed to search the 'puter. When we got the computer back, the warrant was dated for 5 days after they took it, and their claim was "we always do it this way." Illegal search and seizure.

At the hospital the crisis nurse assessed him as no threat to himself or anybody else and signed off to let him go home. But the county stepped in, hauled him downtown, interrogated him, charged him with making a terroristic threat, and drove him to a juvenile center 65 miles away shackled and handcuffed in the back of a squad car. We were shocked, to say the least, terrorized and violated. I found out later the 3 dics (one had been in the backyard) at my home were utilized by non-3D entities in this crazy armageddon to set a grid of terror around our home ... all in the mentality of "for my son's safety and the safety of the community." Everybody was safe now, from this kid who gets a towel to catch a bat in the house and let it go while everybody else is swinging at it with a broom.

Long story to get to the mental health part. My son had to undergo many psychological tests and discussions with a psychologist to discern his mental health and assess if he was a threat. This for both the legal system and the school system. Bottomline, he's not a threat and is OK except for some minor coping, anxiety, and boundary things ... which, to most people I talk to, aren't abnormal for a 17-year-old boy.

We're in the legal process. After some unprofessional mess-ups by the county, he is going to trial in August. I can't imagine this will go very far, but then I couldn't imagine it happening in the first place, nor how inept and "nazi-like" the whole situation has been. I don't have the words to explain, but living in a police state comes to mind and governing by fear and hysteria. I also read in another post about the elderly man moving back to Germany because of what's happening here, and I highly concur with his assessment.

This is an experience of living in the machine, The Matrix. The woman who called the law is named Steinkamp and is called Steinkampf by the students for her ways. The students don't want anything to do with this dean of students, as she is inept at her job and finds her power by making others look bad. So, in this case, she feeds the fear and hysteria to the school community while looking like a savior; the law enforcement agency feeds these to the greater community while strutting that they've done their jobs; the mental health community feeds itself by deciding this normal kid needs adjusting and sending him to counseling (so he can become what they think he "should" be instead of allowing him to be his unconventional self); and the legal system, which could have dropped the charges based on lack of evidence (no guns, no computer plans, no kids confirming he discusses violence, he didn't intend to make this public, his intent was not to threaten, etc., etc.), instead feeds itself by dragging out the process and sending him to trial. Self-perpetuating madness in the name of keeping the community safe. What's wrong with this picture?

Thanks for listening.

Peace,
Monica

Not to rub salt in the wound, as it's a little late and after the fact, but I'll mention it anyway for the benefit of everybody else who is reading this.   But being that this is 2005, 6 years after Columbine, you have to understand that there are certain things that you just don't do anymore.   And getting on the public internet and writing "if I would shoot up the school" is one of them.

I read your account with interest and I'll be honest, I was left feeling like I wanted to slap everybody involved, both sides.   Both sides made mistakes.  The cops were acting as Nazi Gestapo agents, and your son did something very stupid by writing that sort of thing on the public internet in this post-Columbine age.  Public access AIM profiles are no place for "tension release", whatever that's supposed to be, hide or no hide options.   It's Murphy's Law that when you write something that has the potential for public viewing that something will inevitably go wrong to make it viewable to all, no matter what precautionary measures you take.   Call it a glitch in the Matrix if you will. 

This reality is a game.  And one has to navigate around within the parameters of the game.   Ideally we should have "freedom of speech" and all that jazz, but the reality is, we don't.   We exist in a post-Columbine, post-9/11 America that's turning into a Problem-Reaction-Solution police state as a result.   We need to understand that.   Those are the parameters we are operating in.   And until things change.....and they very well may not......we need to understand the rules of the game.   So forget "freedom of speech", forget "but my rights as a citizen are..."   There are things you do, and things you don't.   You don't knowingly put yourself in a red flag raising situation that attracts the attention of the cops.   Our goal should be to stay out of their way.   

I've talked about this before on another messageboard about 2 years ago;  talked about how first off, one needs to be aware and vigilant of their surroundings  -- don't put yourself in a stupid situation.   If you do, and you find yourself dealing with the fuzz, then the next important step is to size up your situation.   Recognize when you have some leverage on your side and when you don't.   And if you don't have any leverage, because it's a precarious situation, then you need to do some serious ass kissing and cow towing and head nodding and cooperating.   Pride often gets in the way of this, and the whole "But it's not FAIR!" and "Freedom of speech!"  thing too, but it doesn't matter.   The most important thing at that point is slipping through the cracks. 

Again, I don't say this to rub salt in the wound, and these pointers are not directed at you personally, per se, because your situation has already happened.  This is just a general commentary for everybody's future benefit, because you're not the only one who either has, or will, find themselves in a situation like this.    There will be loads more like this, no doubt about it.    So I'm glad you posted your account, as it brings this issue to light.