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Re: Reptillians, Wanderers, Awakening (was Nesara:)

Water facilitating informational transference fits into several things:

The ancient symbolism as water for thought, mind and the universe.

The japanese scientist who would take vials of water, write various words on the vials - freeze the water - then look at the formation of the ice crystals under varying words. Chaotic menaing words affected abnormal/chaotic crytaline formations and positive thoughts created more symmetrical and elegent crystal patterns.

Now - remember that the human body is [75]% percent water.... essentially the body is a 'cymatic' thought amplifier which resonates with the thoughts put through it..

If you want to study cymatics - meditate.

Also see HERE

"It's hard to advance freedom in a country that has been strangled by tyranny." - G.W. Bush 04/13/2004

Re: Reptillians, Wanderers, Awakening (was Nesara:)

Black Box,

Here is an experiment for you:

Since you are into drinking a lot of water recently try this: take some containers, fill them with water. Write on them various positive thoughts "Love, Thanks" - Wisdom etc.

Freeze them.

Thaw them.

Drink them.

Try one word for a few days - then another. Then try none... Try putting intent into the word when you write it. Imagine all that Love conjures when you write that word.

"It's hard to advance freedom in a country that has been strangled by tyranny." - G.W. Bush 04/13/2004

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BlackBox wrote:
wandering1 wrote:

For example, is a person either in the Matrix control system or not in the Matrix control system?  Can a person break out gradually?  Or perhaps both are possible and I am being too literal minded.

If a person wishes to escape the Matrix, they are basically expressing that they do not wish to affect our world, but rather choose to escape by ascension or death. Natural or suicide. They would consider themselves "outsiders" to the events occuring.

You need to wake up to the dream (ie. recognizing the illusion) before being able to really wake up from the dream (ie. ascending). Suicide just puts you back in the timeloop.

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Ermolai, do you think ascension is the same thing as developing the light-body?

Or is ascension leaving the earth-plane?

The light-body allows accessing the multi-dimensionalities, while being grounded on earth. Ascension makes me think of escaping the earth-plane via the higher-chakras.

phlux, thanks for the homework (grin). smile Have you tried it yourself? Tasty?

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I personnaly don't see ascension as an escape, more like a transformation of our current reality. From what I've read, this planet will shift to 4D and we have a possibility to accompany/help her in this shift. Thus it seems there will be no need to leave this "earth-plane", as you say. I don't know where wanderers from 5D and 6D will go, maybe go through 4D again? Or maybe go back to their respective dimension...

36 (edited by BlackBox 2004-05-18 15:16:41)

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Well I've always wanted to stay where I am, on Earth. If it involves transmuting Earth to 4th through US, then so be it. But I do not wish to leave prematurely by any means. Or "leave" by any definition.

Perhaps this is because I resist that thought until I find my purpose is being fulfilled. That my time here is not close to nearing end because we haven't even began to really experience the shift.

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I'm pretty sure that the Ra material mentions that once wanderers enter 3rd density, they have to evolve up through 4th, 5th, and 6th density again and they can't simply return to where they were before they incarnated here. I will look for the excerpt if anyone is interested.

As for Nordics, if you search the Cassiopaean transcripts for "Nordic" you'll get quite a few bits of info. The C's have said some of the Nordics are STS, some are STO.  They also defined the Nordics as our "ancestors." What's interesting about the word ancestors is that when asked who created the Cassiopaeans, they answered "your super ancient spiritual ancestors." They equated these "super ancient spiritual ancestors" as transient passengers, and they later equated transient passengers with wanderers. It's all a bit confusing but if I'm to understand correctly, the C's or any other 6th density group may be the wanderers themselves (ie. us "in the future" as the C's told their channelers) communicating with their own incarnations here on earth. Some of you have probably already reached this same conclusion.

It seems though that they way the C's talk about the Nordics is that they are different entities from the 5D and 6D wanderers, and are taking on the form of humans for however long simply to observe what's going on here.

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ermolai wrote:

I personnaly don't see ascension as an escape, more like a transformation of our current reality.

Right, there's a difference between rejecting and transcending the Matrix. By rejecting, you simply leave the gameboard. By transcending, you become unrestricted by the rules of the gameboard. Neo transcended the Matrix at the end of the first movie - rejection would have meant unplugging the first time and staying out, or else remaining in the Matrix as a dejected bum who lives in the ghetto because he rejected the rules without being able to overcome the consequences.

And think about it - if you incarnated into the Matrix for a reason, it's not to leave again as soon as possible. A paratrooper lands in enemy territory to carry out a mission, not to scuttle right back to base.

seeker wrote:

The C's have said some of the Nordics are STS, some are STO.  They also defined the Nordics as our "ancestors." What's interesting about the word ancestors is that when asked who created the Cassiopaeans, they answered "your super ancient spiritual ancestors."

Yeah, this fits with another thing they said:

C's wrote:

A: Here comes a shocker for you... one day, in 4th density, it will be your descendants mission to carry on the tradition and
assignment of seeding the 3rd density universe, once you have
the adequate knowledge!!!

This function is indeed different from 5D and 6D Wanderers because Wanderers incarnate into 3D with all the handicaps, while these STO Nordics are actively involved in 3D matters from their home density. This is because fourth density contains 3D as a subset, and is the last density to be somewhat physical.

BB wrote:

Well I've always wanted to stay where I am, on Earth. If it involves transmuting Earth to 4th through US, then so be it. But I do not wish to leave prematurely by any means. Or "leave" by any definition.

Even after a 3D to 4D transition, there's still loads of work to do. It's not like one transitions to 4D and is then home free...rather, that's when the real fun begins.

C's wrote:

When "Earth" becomes a 4th density
realm, all the forces, both STS and STO shall be in direct
contact with one another... It will be a "level playing field,"
thus, balanced.

Q: (L) Well, you once said something about the transition to
4th density creating a 'level playing field.' Then, the people will
wake up and there will be a battle between the humans and
aliens...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And if it is a more level playing field, then the situation
would not quite be the same as the Conquistadores against
the Aztecs and the Native Americans against the Europeans
and...
A: Wrong, all in that drama were at 3rd density. The rabbits,
rats, dogs, etc. are not on a level playing field with you!

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Hey Seeker,

seeker wrote:

I'm pretty sure that the Ra material mentions that once wanderers enter 3rd density, they have to evolve up through 4th, 5th, and 6th density again and they can't simply return to where they were before they incarnated here.

I'm sure that's no problem since time doesn't exist in those densities. smile At the same instant that they evolve to 4th, they'll have finished 5th, 6th, and poof, Big bang! smile Must be a hell of a ride.

When the C's state, or actually when any channel states ancestors or labels anything, it always gets confusing. The simple truth is, everything stems from ONE thought. That one thought divides into two thoughts, and so on. In no "time" at all, the web becomes very tangled.

Then everything gets even more confusing by the imposition of Time. What is time? Pleideans say that time was created to separate and divide the Universe. Like the way our movies play. Frame by frame. Transmuting existence of continuous and instantaneous principles into frame-by-frame existence. Separating everything by the borders of time for those under 4th Density perspective.

Then cycles imbed themselves within time. That's when life becomes glued to time's characteristics.

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Montalk wrote:

And think about it - if you incarnated into the Matrix for a reason, it's not to leave again as soon as possible. A paratrooper lands in enemy territory to carry out a mission, not to scuttle right back to base.

A dream I had a few days ago just fully clicked in after reading this. Well I guess I had a few hunches leading to this but it never really clarified until now.

I was in a space-fight with a small fleet of comrades battling some other types of ships. We warped in or came through a portal.

Our fleet was pushing forward, so I believe the other side was defending their territory, or at least in defensive-formations. I was tailing an enemy ship and damaging it heavily. Obviously the other ships came to defend it and fired at my ship until it had sustained critical damage. I was at the point that if I got shot at anymore, I would have been destroyed so I turned back away from my fleet and went right back through the portal. I think my comrades were covering me at this point because I shouldn't have been able to make it back through.

The dream then flashed into hours later where I was sitting in a space-station, feeling guilty for having to retreat and abandon my fleet. My "friends" were sitting across from me, as it seems they were ashamed of my actions. I suppose they thought I acted cowardly. What's funny is that they were played out by the actual cast of the T.V. show "Friends". I remember Joey giving me the look. smile

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Anyways. This dream makes me think that instead of continuing to transcend and attempt to gain my light-body, I have doubts in my mind of pushing forward with the rest of the light-workers. It may be symbolic of the conflict of my 3D self VS my potential multidimensional awakening.

Feels nice to express a dream to others though.

41 (edited by matt_d82 2007-01-30 23:23:12)

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Instead of posting an entirely new thread, I thought I would just ask this question in this one (which is now nearly 3 years since its last post).

The question I have is about reptilians here on earth. Is it possible, that there are people who exist in our world, who are reptilian, yet are unaware of their origins?

This can be likened to the idea of wanderers - and how some of them may be unaware of who they really are.

Could it be possible that there are reptilians who are also unaware, yet possess some of the similar STS qualities? I'm not sure if it's a prerequisite to be 4th density, but say wanderers from 4th,5th or 6th D, here they are confined to 3rd. Can the same also happen for reptilians? i.e. 3rd density incarnates unaware of who they are.

The reason I ask, is that in the past few weeks I have noticed some people - either friends of friends, or who I have met otherwise, who give off the vibe of being dominant or power hungry - yet in a very subtle way, which may not even be obvious to anyone else unless they were looking for it specifically or had a similar intuition. These people also appear (the may not actually HAVE more), but appear to have lots and lots of teeth - like a crocodile. That's kind of an over-the-top comparison, and perhaps trivial also, but they just LOOK like they have more teeth than the average person. Other traits they posses, are being friendly but in a manipulative way. I noticed this, because I saw others being manipulated right before my eyes.

Anyway, if anyone could enlighten me, I would be very grateful.

Vincit omnia Veritas: Truth conquers all.

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I think it's entirely possible that there are reptilians incarnated as humans who have no idea who or what they are.  They would have those traits and not know where they came from, but sadly would probably propel them to the top of the ladder, jobwise.

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** Raises hand gently, not wanting to become a downer within this nice thread.**

In my experience, the Nordics have been EXTREMELY BAD NEWS.

And when I say Nordic, I am referring to beings who appear to be of slightly less physical density than us but who are extremely Luciferian in energy.  Their physicality is an extremely pale white skin verging on albino with cold, evil eyes, and the eyes are always of a pale ice blue verging on grey. The hair is a pale straw blond, almost a milky blond.

They use a lot of really nasty technology, do tons of really invasive abductions, and also seem to be very tied into the negative reptilians.  They may even be the HUMAN holographic projection for many of the negative reptilians, based on some of my encounters with them. I know at least several dozen people beside myself who have had similar experiences with these beings.

Never have known or encountered a nice Nordic.  But they are very good at pretending to be gods.

Just wanted to throw that in there.  Use caution around "calling these critters up."

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

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Yeah I don't like them either LipstickMystic. There can be 'nice' beings of any type but you only know what you've run into. In my experience anyone trying to be 'good' is going against programming whether they be human or alien.

45 (edited by lyra 2007-02-06 05:30:49)

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belljar wrote:

In my experience anyone trying to be 'good' is going against programming whether they be human or alien.

Well that's certainly an interesting sentiment.   Maybe I'm not understanding what you mean by this, because it seems to contradict the statement "there can be nice beings of any type."  So are you saying that we don't inherantly have good in us, only (nasty) programming that we can override and go against?  Sounds extremely pessimistic.  If that's what you do mean.  Maybe you could elaborate?

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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