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Topic: Interesting new UFO footage

http://www.rense.com/ufo6/ufotheatre.mpg

"We taped quite possibly the clearest and most amazing sequence of strange lights in the skies above Arizona on Sunday night at 10pm...  We were going to the local Walmart (blarg) to do some browsing of Chinese goods and to the right in the sky above the mountain appeared a huge formation of lights... So we decided to stop and try to get them on video.. just as we though we were too late the large light reappeared and soon others started appead `46 it ... then something amazing happened ... other lights started flying down from the sky and joining the formation of lights ... it was simply amazing to witness and even more amazing is that this has finally been caught on video ... the video was jawdropping and the objects are so clearly taped that its just a miracle that it was caught ... the camera was on the tripod during the first few seconds of taping and it caught the lights appearing and flying down perfectly.. I decided to turn on the higher zoom on the camera so I removed it from the tripod and changed settings and began taping again ... this time I was zoomed closer to the objects and they started flying back up in the sky and disappearing.... it was all caught on tape and this time NOBODY can ever say that flares are all that are flying up around here in phoenix Arizona.. - Brian/Ufotheatre.com"

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2 Reply by zonabi (edited by zonabi 2005-06-09 09:20:45)

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Re: Interesting new UFO footage

gosh, i wish they would give me a heads up , that way i can see all these cool ufo lights in phoenix.

this place is a hotspot!

dayum... thats the clearest shots ive seen of ufo / lights

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looks like a mothership with smaller ships connecting/ departing

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3 Reply by lyra (edited by lyra 2005-06-09 11:50:41)

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We watched this, and something seems a little off about it.  Be careful not to get sucked into another hoax.  Specifically what's off about the footage is:

- The UFO's themselves are too clear;  they look computer generated.  (Conversly, they're simultaneously nice and "fuzzy", as if to emphasize atmospheric haze.)
- The shaky camera movement looks too deliberate, too herky jerky, as if to over emphasive the "amateur", spur of the moment, homemade quality of it all.   "Look what I just happened to find hovering over where I live!  Then I grabbed my camcorder and breathlessly tried to film it!"

It just doesn't intuitively feel right to me.  The UFO enthusiasts will be all over this because they're always looking for fresh new material to keep the mystery going.   Gotta have something to break up the monotony of every day life.

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  • From: zerone
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Re: Interesting new UFO footage

yea, u know what else was strange, is that the camera was on a tripod at first... steady and perfectly filming it.. then they grabbed the camera or something and it turned to "amatuer" style like lyra said...
and the story explains it ... but u never know

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  • From: Zion
  • Registered: 2004-09-28

Re: Interesting new UFO footage

I've watched the film several times now. I actually don't have a problem with the way it appears at all. The UFOs look exactly how bright lights should look when captured on film. The only reason I have any kind of negative, it-ain't-right, knee jerk reaction to it is because I'm a crusty old cynic who doesn't like being fooled. If that video were genuine, it'd be about the best footage I've ever seen, which is the only reason I'm skeptical about it. But, I'll admit, if this is a hoax it's a damned good one.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

6 Reply by lyra (edited by lyra 2005-06-09 13:34:18)

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zonabi wrote:

yea, u know what else was strange, is that the camera was on a tripod at first... steady and perfectly filming it.. then they grabbed the camera or something and it turned to "amatuer" style like lyra said...
and the story explains it ... but u never know

Well, I would feel bad if it turned out to be real, and here I am trying to be skeptical.  So I don't mean to sound like a spoilsport, because I've always been interested in all things weird and paranormal.   But I don't know....you just have to be careful nowadays, because technology has advanced enough that the average person now has access to computer software that can EASILY create something very real looking.  In the 50's people had to string up plates and saucers from a backyard tree then take a fuzzy picture of it if they wanted to fake a UFO picture.   Nowadays....just turn on your computer and launch some really good software programs.   Also factor in how many people out there love tricking people and totally get off on that sort of thing, and the attention and ego boost that it brings amongst their fellow hoaxers.....I don't know.  Just call me skeptical and pessimistic I guess.

I don't know why, but the whole UFO thing feels so tired to me.   I've been researching it since I was 9, and after all these years, all those hopes and dreams I had wink ....and I think that I *may* have *possibly* seen a real UFO once, in Portland.   That's it!   After all that skywatching!   And all that yelling at the sky, "WHERE ARE YOU!?!?   COME AND GET ME!!!!!"    Once!!!   One time!!!!   And I can't even be 100% sure that they were UFO's!!!   grrrrrrrrrrrr!    big_smile    (the ones I saw were hovering near Portland International Airport, and moved left to right and up and down at 90 degree angles...an impossibility for standard human aircraft that would be coming and going from an airport.  They spent a lot of time hovering, and changed colors rapidly, red, gold, green, white, blue, etc.   They look like sparkling illuminated jewels in a way.   They also seemed to grow smaller then bigger again.  Couldn't really tell what the hell they were doing, but it went on for about 15 minutes.   Who knows though.)

See????  I'm just another UFO folklore tale, in a sea of thousands of tales.   It gets tired I guess after awhile.   I think it would all seem less tired and played out if we could all stop treating this phenomenon as a "woooooo!!   mysterious!" phenomenon that's always in doubt.   Just admit, "Yeah, UFO's are real, WHAT!"   Get it over with.   Stop going in circles about it, chasing our own tales.  "Yeah, they're real!  And??   Next!"   Doesn't it just feel so tiresome that here we are, coming up on almost **60 years** since the 1947 Roswell incident, and 1948 Kenneth Arnold, state of Washington UFO sighting which launched the modern UFO era, and we have still yet to confirm once and for all that YES!!  UFO's ARE REAL DAMMIT!   Would be nice.   Even if we confirm it only for ourselves.  Forget always looking to the government to finally "give us permission" to be able to stop going in circles, and be able to talk about it freely in mixed company, out in the open, without fear of ridicule.

Alright, enough of my rant..... smile

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7 Reply by Neomatrix (edited by Neomatrix 2005-06-09 17:53:14)

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Re: Interesting new UFO footage

lyra wrote:

I think it would all seem less tired and played out if we could all stop treating this phenomenon as a "woooooo!!   mysterious!" phenomenon that's always in doubt.   Just admit, "Yeah, UFO's are real, WHAT!"   Get it over with.   Stop going in circles about it, chasing our own tales.

Well, here's where I'm going with this. I've read on various web sites that there has been a dramatic increase in world UFO sightings lately, so I'm wondering what this is all leading up to. And yes, I'm sure that there are UFOs; whether it's the ones piloted by non-human beings or the ones piloted by human beings is largely irrelevant to me. So, it isn't proof of their existence that I'm looking for here, but rather just questioning the validity of the video in light of its timing with an apparent increase in global UFO activity.

I remember reading on several conspiracy sites about the alien "wild card" that the powers that be are waiting to play on us, trying to convince us all that some alien power is invading as a final push to the creation of a global government. With recent events in Europe, they certainly won't be getting their United States of Europe created anytime soon as the French and Dutch have already rejected the proposed constitution. So that, in turn, kinda puts a stall on the creation of their beloved One World Government, which I had thought they wanted to have firmly in place by the year 2010. If that's gonna happen now, then they really need to play a hell of a doozie on the human race. But can they really be this desperate? :-/

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Neomatrix wrote:

Well, here's where I'm going with this. I've read on various web sites that there has been a dramatic increase in world UFO sightings lately, so I'm wondering what this is all leading up to. And yes, I'm sure that there are UFOs; whether it's the ones piloted by non-human beings or the ones piloted by human beings is largely irrelevant to me. So, it isn't proof of their existence that I'm looking for here, but rather just questioning the validity of the video in light of its timing with an apparent increase in global UFO activity.

I remember reading on several conspiracy sites about the alien "wild card" that the powers that be are waiting to play on us, trying to convince us all that some alien power is invading as a final push to the creation of a global government.

I hear ya.....didn't mean to imply that you were seeking proof by posting this.   I think it's interesting too, because week after week on Rense.com they have UFO footage.  Either the internet now makes posting footage possible, so for that reason we see it more often then we would have in years past; or, there are simply more sightings occuring.  Seems it's probably the latter.   Which leads to the question "Why?" which you addressed.   


Neomatrix wrote:

With recent events in Europe, they certainly won't be getting their United States of Europe created anytime soon as the French and Dutch have already rejected the proposed constitution. So that, in turn, kinda puts a stall on the creation of their beloved One World Government, which I had thought they wanted to have firmly in place by the year 2010. If that's gonna happen now, then they really need to play a hell of a doozie on the human race. But can they really be this desperate? :-/

Oooh...I found this whole fiasco so incredibly intriguing!!   When I was reading the interenet headlines about all of this my first thought was to wonder if someway, somehow, the Powers That Be would finagle it in anyway in the end.   You know how they are.   "So the people said no.   Who cares!  We'll get our way in the end!!  mmmmmwaaaahahahahahahaha!"  Not that this has to do with the UFO's thing, but this is the only place so far on NR where the topic has come up yet, so I wanted to address it.  About two years ago I was musing outloud at work to a coworker who was into conspiracies "I wonder how long it'll take before the US converts to the Euro?"  It's amazing how many people don't see this one coming.   Country after country is dropping the Dollar to switch to the Euro, the dollar's value is dropping left and right, which means it's only a matter of time.   

ANYway, I'm just as curious as anybody to see where all this UFO stuff is going.  Between Hollywood and the increase in UFO sightings and footage over the past few years you have to wonder.

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Interesting update

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Bulgarian UFO video

This is great video if it's real.

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Nice. You can see the thing spinning!! LOL! I wonder why it would spin . . . (?)

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the second video (the one with the spinning) was from abum.com a humor site so i don't think it's real

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Spartan2402 wrote:

the second video (the one with the spinning) was from abum.com a humor site so i don't think it's real

I'm not sure whether it's real or not, but websites often put their name & URL on video files that they make available, in order to attract visitors to their site.  It doesn't mean they produced or had anything to do with the video itself.