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Anybody notice 3 school bus accidents in 3 different states and the 2 girls murdered in Illinois? Where was mercury in retrograde over? I think 2 of the school bus accidents were in the midwest as were the murders? Hmmm something to ponder.

Peace,
Teddy

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T-ren wrote:

Anybody notice 3 school bus accidents in 3 different states.... ?

Yes T-ren, I did. It was one after the other on the news.

I also thought it odd... but as well, in my area there have off and on been one after the other mishaps where children are getting run down after just having gotten off the bus... I never really took notice if they happened during a particular moon phase though.

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T-Ren wrote:

Anybody notice 3 school bus accidents in 3 different states and the 2 girls murdered in Illinois? Where was mercury in retrograde over? I think 2 of the school bus accidents were in the midwest as were the murders? Hmmm something to ponder.

Mercury went out of retrograde awhile ago, probably back in March I think.   I only mentioned it as a sidenote, didn't mean to imply that this was a recent occurance, or add confusion to things.

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You didn't add to the confusion(at least not for me and not any more than I already am smile ). The accidents and such may be a mere coincidence, but since our local news hasn't reported any and none from out of state(that I am aware of) to have three and all on the same day seemed pretty odd to say the least. Could be I'm reaching for something not really there.

Peace,
Teddy

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I always take the astrologer's advice to avoid making major decisions during Mercury Retrogrades, etc. Lyra, I've got a clearer picture of "Life at the Hotel." Glad that you're doing so well there now! I just thought of
the possiblility of you being manipulated, kind of mixed some ideas together... do that sometimes. But no doubt even if they were messing with you in additional ways, you'd handle it with flying colors! I enjoy reading about the hotel so much, that I get a little carried away. The descriptions of people's shenanigans, how they are infuenced and don't even know it...it really resonates with me!

Bye the bye, my moon is in Scorpio, although I'm a Libra. So I understand you Scorpios. Uh...I think.

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SednaSphere wrote:

But no doubt even if they were messing with you in additional ways, you'd handle it with flying colors!

ahh....probably not actually.   big_smile   I still have my stuff to work on, but thanks for having so much confidence in me!   big_smile   

SednaSphere wrote:

I enjoy reading about the hotel so much, that I get a little carried away. The descriptions of people's shenanigans, how they are infuenced and don't even know it...it really resonates with me!

I should update that thread then with anecdotal stories of stuff that happens.  It's a riot sometimes, seriously.  Could be like my "hotel blog" or smoething.  haha   (i imagine about 50 people just read that and rolled their eyes and thought 'oh please lyra, sit down and be quiet!'  wink  haha)



SednaSphere wrote:

Bye the bye, my moon is in Scorpio, although I'm a Libra. So I understand you Scorpios. Uh...I think.

There's things you can not undersatnd about the Scorpio condition....things you shouldn't understand.....things you wouldn't want to understand.........!   big_smile  j/k  Actually, with a Scorpio moon that makes you just as much Scorpio as those with a Scorpio sun I think.

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Uh, yeah! There's things I know that I wish I didn't know, and the Scorpio moon is probably "to blame!"  There was a show called
"Faulty Towers" on the tube, with John Cleese and this wonderful
comedic actor as his wife (name?) which was all about the hilarious
snafus which occured in the hotel they ran. Somehow this comes to
mind.

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The chart for June:

http://www.montalk.net/images/21.jpg

red = full moon | blue = apogee (moon farthest) | gray = new moon | green = perigee (moon closest)

I'm noticing more and more that for those susceptible to moon energies, new moons tend to induce oversensitivity and full moons overreactivity. For instance, a new moon may heighten the potential for dissatisfaction, depression, getting offended, etc... while a full moon heightens the pressure for explosive releases of anger.

So new moon influences tend to act internally, and full moons externally. Perhaps this is due to the particular alignment of the moon, sun, earth and the mixing of their archetypal energies.

During a new moon, the moon is between sun and earth. So the sun's energies are intercepted, blocked by the moon...archetypally this would be our inner light being eclipsed, leading to depression and feelings of internal compression, suffocation, dissatisfaction, sensitivity as the internal source of hope, energy, clarity is momentarily overshadowed.

During a full moon, the earth is between moon and sun.  So the sun's energies are in full flow, though mixed with the moon energies opposite the earth. This corresponds with strong energies being flavored with the lunar matrix-feeding energy, or the outburst of energy along less-than-productive lines of action.

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interesting interpretations!

montalk, can u explain, if u havent already, the purpose or significance of the shaded "M-curve" area attached to the new and full moon ?

thanks
z

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Yeah, the M curve signifies that the strongest influences of the new and full moons happen not on those days, but 1-3 days before and after. I'm not sure exactly why. During Mercury retrograde I have only noticed the glitches and plan changes happening the week leading up to it. Perhaps it's the shift in energies that cause things to move, like when you're rounding a corner in a car you only really slide around when you first enter the curve and then come out of it.

In the book The Zelator by Mark Hedsel there's mention of the moon cycle and how (I need to read it again, forgot what I read) an ancient ritual involved sacrificing a pig 2.5 days around a new or full moon. I'll be writing an article about all this soon which will put it all in one place. But to sum up, it's known among occult circles that the new/full moon influences peak a little before and after, hence the M-shaped curve.

Also, those perigee/apogee  marks, if they fall within or near a shaded region then the halfway point between those and the new/full moon marks is when I've consistently experienced the highest probability for lunar-related incidents. For instance, going by the chart above, there's a full moon around the 7th and apogee around 11th, so I myself would seek to be extra centered and positive on the 8th and 9th of this month. Still experimenting and observing...

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Article by American yoga teacher Tim Miller about the reason we do not practice yoga asanas on full or new moon:

Both full and new moon days are observed as yoga holidays in the Ashtanga Yoga tradition. What is the reasoning behind this?

Like all things of a watery nature (human beings are about 70% water), we are affected by the phases of the moon. The phases of the moon are determined by the moon’s relative position to the sun. Full moons occur when they are in opposition and new moons when they are in conjunction. Both sun and moon exert a gravitational pull on the earth. Their relative positions create different energetic experiences that can be compared to the breath cycle. The full moon energy corresponds to the end of inhalation when the force of prana is greatest. This is an expansive, upward moving force that makes us feel energetic and emotional, but not well grounded. The Upanishads state that the main prana lives in the head. During the full moon we tend to be more headstrong.

The new moon energy corresponds to the end of exhalation when the force of apana is greatest. Apana is a contracting, downward moving force that makes us feel calm and grounded, but dense and disinclined towards physical exertion.

The Farmers Almanac recommends planting seeds at the new moon when the rooting force is strongest and transplanting at the full moon when the flowering force is strongest.

Practicing Ashtanga Yoga over time makes us more attuned to natural cycles. Observing moon days is one way to recognize and honor the rhythms of nature so we can live in greater harmony with it.

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montalk wrote:

During a new moon, the moon is between sun and earth. So the sun's energies are intercepted, blocked by the moon...archetypally this would be our inner light being eclipsed, leading to depression and feelings of internal compression, suffocation, dissatisfaction, sensitivity as the internal source of hope, energy, clarity is momentarily overshadowed.

Thanks so much Tom. This helped me a lot during yesterday's new moon to understand what was going on. I really felt as if I was moving in the dark (more than usual, that is). I couldn't get any external confirmation whatsoever and so I had to rely solely on basic principles of justice/truth/etc to continue moving. I only got the confirmation this morning that I had done the right choices.

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Tom ... for the first time the moon chart doesn't come through for me.  Only one of those frustrating squares with a question mark in the middle ... signifying ... not available.

Do I need to reconfigure things since the new server?  I'm on a MAC.

Thanks.  These moon charts are terrific and I hate losing one.
Christine B.

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Well, the entire chart for 2005 is always available from http://www.montalk.net/moon2005.jpg  so try downloading that if the individual charts don't show up for you.

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I've been hearing from several people today how crappy/icky/irritable they felt. One was in NY (not even aware of the moon theory) and another was way closer so it wasn't the weather, perhaps it was the moon since after all the 8-9th was the peak of the June new moon influence. It shows that although we are responsible for our own actions, we can still have certain influences biasing our tempers. So far this new moon has been a prettry strong one.

Today I felt fine. My "bad" day was last week, 2.5 days before the new moon, and then the three days after when I got stressed out scrambling to fix an internet problem that ended being a fault with my ISP. Can't believe I let myself get so worked up over an electronics issue. When the waves rock the boat it's hard to maintain balance.

So different people seemingly experiencing lunar influences at different times -- I'm not sure whether there is definite timing specific to each individual, like whether different people have different timing depending on their natal astrological or some other configuration, or whether lunar-related periods of distress simply happen when opportunity arises anywhere within a lunar window.

Today I was forced to delete someone's post who got oversensitive and absolutely blew his top. Haven't had to do something like this since...well...the last moon period, haha. Under any other circumstance I would have banned him but knowing that today people can be out of character I advised a cool-off period instead. If it is a genuine issue worth getting enraged over, then I think it will be just as inflaming in the days to come...otherwise it will fade away. And if it fades away, then banning would have been the wrong thing to do. So whether the moon theory is legitimate or not, I sense that so far it's done a good job of helping people make wiser decisions and insights. But that other sources like Gurdjieff and the Zelator talk about moon cycles like it's old news gives credence to the theory.

One idea that's come to me lately is that if the moon cycles are part of a natural loosh-harvesting mechanism, then just like milking a cow it would try to get as much "product" with the least amount of long-term damage. One thing I've noticed so far is that the types of trouble that come up during lunar windows tend to be those that cause the greatest amount of emotional anguish or release with the least amount of permanent damage. In other words, by the time the moon period is over, the emotional distress factor evaporates as quickly as it set in.

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