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Never thought about it much, but seems to be kinda mechanical in nature, electric like /wave in nature/undulating and compelling.  Seems to incorporate the whole body-not just the hearing part. Hypnotic -like the sound of a quiet washing machine.

BTW (changing it up), what is the significance of these numbers (3,7,127), I have been trying to figure it out!  Can you give us any clues-feels enigmatic, but not sure why...

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

17 (edited by Neomatrix 2004-10-18 20:07:30)

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Everything you guys are describing here sounds to me like the onset of an out-of-body experience, which is nothing to worry about. You aren't being attacked by anything. Paralysis, sudden jolts, seeing images, pops and crackling noises, etc, are all common symptoms described by people well versed in the OBE phenomena. The feeling of electricity flowing through your (paralyzed) body is called the vibrational state, and it is from this point that it is possible to consciously exit the body. What manyeagles describes as a "vivid flying dream" sounds much more like a full-blown out-of-body experience to me.

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

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Hello.  I'm new to this place, and this topic piqued my curiosity, since I have some experiences with it.

My sleep paralysis began when I was around 20 or so, and was triggered by smoking marijuana, more than likely laced with something else.  Occasionally, I used to smoke pot to get out of a rut or something; always for that purpose, never recreational.  Anyway, my brothers and I all had a bad trip that night because of that certain batch of the stuff.  One became really sad, the other really frightened.  My own experience was scary for me.  I felt that my hand wanted to hit someone.  Scared the crap out of me.  I remember trying to run off (we were in the desert at the time), thinking, "It's going to happen, it's finally going to happen."  God knows what that meant.  I don't.

For some time after that, actually, maybe a month or so, I would get that impulse of violence, I suppose you'd call it, whenever I was near someone.  The sleep paralysis also started to occur.  I'd wake up, paralyzed, with the feeling that something was coming down the hall.  I remember thinking all of this was some evil, demonic thing.  I remember  silently begging to be taken to a church, calling out to God.  Or, at least, trying.  During the paralysis, I couldn't say a thing.

It all culminated one night, when I finally faced it and thought, "I accept it.  I'll just let this evil pass through me.  It is a part of me, and I won't fight it."  If that was the right thing to do, I don't know, but it made it stop.  At least, from being so overwhelming.  It stopped for quite awhile, at least.  I thought, in the end, that this was all it was, this bad side in me.

To this day, however, I have anxiety, in small doses.  If I was any more unaware, they would probably turn into panic attacks.  It's been a constant battle, a tiring battle, to slowly learn not to worry, that I am in control when it comes down to it.  Most of the attacks, you see, are really only this anxiety of an impulse, say, of throwing up, fainting, screaming out, whatever.  Just this impulse.  The fear of that, of losing control, which is probably what it is more than anything else, makes it a whole lot worse.  As it is, I don't like the anxiety, but at the same time, I appreciate it because it means I'm tapping into some depth.  I don't know.

These days, I can tell when I'm going to have sleep paralysis.  It's this faint feeling of dread.  It's like knowing that I'm not going to totally fall asleep, and be trapped in this nether-world between sleeping and waking.  I avoid it at all costs, waking myself up every ten minutes or so just so I don't totally fall asleep and wake up paralyzed.  It also means bad dreams.  Recently, I went through a night of this, and just turned on the television.  Light helps, psychologically, I figure.  Sometimes I wait for the dawn, knowing that the light will stop it.

Also, before I forget, I remember one time, being in that semi-awake stage, of hearing something using my restroom, taking a leak.  I thought, "how vulgar."  That particular night was one of those "attack nights".  I had also felt being lifted off my bed, about a foot or so, and looked up, seeing this dark haired girl above me.  I don't think that she's a bad spirit.  I've seen the girl before, to my reckoning, before my daughter was born.  I think perhaps she's a guardian or something.  But what do I know?

These days, I have more bad dreams than ever.  In fact, I don't ever remember having a bad dream when I was younger.  Accompanying this, however, in any dream, is the knowledge that I can fly.  It doesn't matter the dream, I just know I can fly.  It can be a normal dream, until I remember that I can fly.  It's just a given in my dream state.  "Oh, yeah, I can fly," and I fly.  It's not those stumbling around flying dreams, it's pure control.  So, I'm happy about that.

So, what else can I remember?  Street lamps go off when I come near, too, on occasion.  I figured it was just something normal that lights do, but it is odd that it happens as soon as I'm coming near.  Of course, that could just be filtering on my part.  I also remember being half-asleep one day, in that region of uncomfortable half state, and seeing my brothers come into the room.  One, this pot-head, wild, long-haired guy, came into the room sporting antlers!  I figure it's a part of his nature, this animal spirit thingy.  Also, this one time, my friend and I were walking (I used to go for walks ALL the time), at night, when we both heard, in our right ear, this "beam".  You could feel the depression of it in the ear, this quick, solid "beeep".

Well, that's about all I can remember.  There's a whole lot o' things that I've experienced, nothing too out there.  Just wanted to pipe in with this sleep paralysis thing.

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Hi all,
        Yeah, CLASSIC OOBE symptoms here guys, nothing at 2 worry about, just ego bitching at you in the absence of clarity post OOBE, some fascinating stories here people, you are definitely not alone in your experiences!
                                                    AJ

...would the last person to leave please turn out the enlightenment?...

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I have constant sleep paralysis, it's pretty reliable.  Last night, I had another one.  As usual, there's the feeling that something is coming down the hallway.  I can attribute this to feeling vulnerable since you can't move.  Never seen any entities, but am paranoid for at least an hour after.  Also, the way I get out of it is to just totally relax, which is a pretty feat considering that is the last thing you want to do while frightened.  I don't mind this exercise, as it teaches me something.

However, last night I had a new occurance.  It felt like the pressure in my left ear changed, and I could hear music. then it shifted, as if tuning, and I could hear a man talking.  Then it shifted again.  I've heard talking before, and music, upon coming out of sleep, but never the clarity I heard last night.  The pressure in the ear I've had before, but I was fully awake and walking with my friend at the time.  He experienced it, too.  That was in my right ear that time.

Anyone have any clue as to what that is?

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

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I am currently reading a book, "Spiritwalker"-messages from the future by Hank Wesselman.  It is based on a true story of an anthropologist's experience with this topic.  The back cover of the book states "Dr. Wesselman has begun to penetrate the shamanic realms of nonordinary reality and revelation. His dramatic acccounts are well within the range of experiences regularly achieved by contemporary students of shamanism and shamanic journeying."

He describes what many have experienced in regards to sleep paralysis/OBE accounts.  It seems that sleep paralysis is somehow a "pramble" to the shamanic journey/dreamtime phenomenon.  He  mentions kundalini energy/activation of such, in this state as well. (sleep paralysis gearing towards trance state)

I have listened to some aboriginal music that mimics the step by step process involved in OBE.  The combination of certain sounds/tones/music enhances/paves the way for this state to occur.  When combined with the ingestion of certain substances like "mushrom juice smile"  -the likelyhood of "dreamtime journey" is pretty high (no pun intended).

For myself, my body temperature must be very warm, and I must be laying on my back.  Mind "chatter" is completely turned off, and in 15 minutes or so the sleep paralysis starts.  This seems to happen early on or towards the very end of the sleep phase.  If napping in the afternoon, it occurs almost always and seems to be much more vivid. And no, I don't use the "mushroom juice", but it has been used with reverance for a very long time in many cultures for the soul purpose of "journeying".

Haven, the ear pressure isn't something I have with the sleep paralysis, however the tuning sort of thing you describe is.  It's like static noise or an increase in awareness; not unlike the removal of a "grey film" that's usually present our day to day "awake state."

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

22 (edited by Haven 2004-12-22 06:23:27)

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manyeagles wrote:

He  mentions kundalini energy/activation of such, in this state as well. (sleep paralysis gearing towards trance state)

I've pretty much come to the conclusion that it is the kundalini awakening or rising.  I feel this rush of energy constantly throughout the day, it's always hovering outside my awareness, and I can pretty much trigger it consciously.  It can lead to a mild anxiety attack if I don't integrate it.  This is what I think is happening during sleep paralysis, also.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

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I investigated this thread to find out more about sleep paralysis, since my son has been experiencing it a lot lately.  I've had similar experiences in the past, but not for some time, and certainly never as frequently as he is having them now.  The kundalini rising theory makes a lot of sense to me,
and is in sync with this description my son mailed to me a couple of months ago,, don't think he'll mind my sharing it here:

I had a very odd experience last night.

   I woke up and the bed was vibrating. This is something that has been happening for a while now, usually if I focus on it, I can make it go away (I think it's in my head) I know that sounds weird, but it isn't the result of cars passing by or anything, because it happens quite frequently, and it vibrates in time with my heartbeat. Usually this happens before I go to sleep, but this time it woke me up, and it was very strong, and my heartbeat was very fast. I also felt a weird electric surge of energy focused in my chest. It was a weird tickly feeling. It kept surging and surging until I had to get out of bed and walk around (in bed I was quivering with it, couldnt stop moving) I stretched and tried to relax, but I felt like I could run 20 miles suddenly (it was 4 in the morning!). I did like 20 pushups, and tensed my muscles trying to release the energy, but I couldn't go back to bed for about 2 hours. Every time I laid back down in bed I felt that weird sensation again, and started to giggle, and the bed would start rocking in time with my heartbeat. I finally was able to get back to sleep, but this morning I was super-energized, and zipped around cleaning and doing dishes (I felt like I was on speed or something). I felt it again after my first class, and could barely stop from giggling/laughing again due to the sheer rush, so I went for a powerwalk back to my apt to drop some stuff off, and zoom back to class as a way to let off some steam.
   I think it's finally dying down, and I'm starting to feel a bit tired (but right now I'm zooming again). I was wondering what could be causing this kinda goofyness (I've been eating less?) but it suprised me. It almost felt like something was passing through my chest, kinda tickling my energy, or something. Anyway, I thought I should write it down before it fades from my memory, because it might be the weirdest thing that has happened to me, ever.<<

He's extremely creative and is currently making quantum leaps as an artist as he peruses his studies at the Academy of Art here in San Francisco.   It strikes me that the kundalini rising/sleep paralysis is connected to this.

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Hi all :-)

I've been reading through all the relative threads on sleep paralysis, trying to get some answers about an experience I had last week. A few have said its just a transition to an OOBE, but I just don't know. Let me explain...

It was 3:27 AM, and I had awoke to this strange noise inside my head, a very loud noise kind of like a machine whirring, its hard to explain what it sounded like with just words. No one else in the house heard it but me, and I could feel this noise inside my head, imagine a wave with the pitch going up and down, and it was painful. It felt like something was stepping on my skull and holding it in postition. When this finally started to subside, I managed to get my head up(I was laying on my back). I could see a dark shadowy figure standing in front of my bed, I's say about 4 feet in height. It was cloaked in dark robes of some sort, I couldn't make out who or what it was. It was then my body was paralysed and I couldn't move an inch. I then sensed another being behind me, I thought this was impossible, since my bed is up against the wall, but it was there. And I couldn't see it but I felt it was another just like the one in front of me. I called out to my wife, but she didn't wake up, nor did my dog who sleeping right next to me.

There were no spoken words throughout this ordeal, but I recall the intent, and that was to take me out of my body for some reason. I remember yelling at these things with a few choice words, although it had little effect when they suceeded in taking me from my body. I remember the we exited the house through the wall and proceeded to go straight up in the air, going out into space. I can recall seeing the planet, a sparkling blue orb in blackness, very peaceful looking. The whole time this was going on, I was demanding to be let go. I finally called on the divine creator and the Christ consciousness, demanding in their name that I be released. I can remember what seemd like a blast of golden light surrounding me and going out in a sphere around me. These beings released me and I was free. I was then guided back to me body, by who I don't know, but I remember feeling peace and relief that it was over. I can remember going back into my body, and opening my physical eyes, but I still couldn't move. It took quite a few minutes to get control back. It was a very terrifying experience and I was totally awake, I will never forget it! And I continually thank the divine creator for the release.

It may seem weird, but I remember reading Stuart Wilde "Gladiatiors" and the fear factor. I decided I need to release my fear, so I put everything in the One's hands. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? It seemed very real to me, but is this just a crazy dream, OOBE, or something else? Thanks!

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Wow, sounds like you woke up in the middle of a soul abduction. All the indicators are there -- the being "behind" you not matching with physical space (because the wall was there, but this is happening slightly out of phase with physical reality), the physical paralysis, and later you not being able to move for a few minutes (soul takes a moment to settle back into the body after a violent episode like this). Thanks for sharing this experience, it shows once again that calling out to the Creator/Christ energy does indeed work. Glad you survived!

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26 (edited by Auendove 2005-05-30 07:12:08)

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bones2112,

When I read this quoted below my stomach turned and I broke out in a sweat. Something much like this has happened to me as well, except I was just going to sleep--

bones2112 wrote:

It was 3:27 AM, and I had awoke to this strange noise inside my head, a very loud noise kind of like a machine whirring, its hard to explain what it sounded like with just words. No one else in the house heard it but me, and I could feel this noise inside my head, imagine a wave with the pitch going up and down, and it was painful. It felt like something was stepping on my skull and holding it in postition. When this finally started to subside...

And no subsiding for me, I must've passed out. I wrote a little about this here--

http://noblerealms.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=542

post #14 wrote:

The next incidence is so bothersome I still don't know what to think about it, but again there could be no other explanation aside of manipulation. I've only told one other person about this until now, it wigged me so. Early last week I laid down to go to sleep and my right ear started with the thrumming, and then moved into my whole head, and then moved into EVERYTHING. It's like all that there was was this overwhelming noise. As dramatic as this may sound it is not without provocation--I thought I was a goner, I wanted to scream out "What the <bleep> is happening to me!", but I couldn't. I wanted to get up and get my mate to help me, but I couldn't. I couldn't move. It was like being in a horrific scene in the scariest movie. This was one of the most singularly helpless moments of my adult life. And then I woke up the next morning. What happened? Even more to the point, why did this happen?

You remembered what happened, I don't...at least not consciously, yet right now for revisiting this there is some part of me that remembers something threatening happened because my heart is beating rapidly and my hands are shaking, my poor body is going into panic mode. Time for a little recon work.

(I took a little break smile )

I'm one rarely to leave any "stone unturned".... but this time I will. It's enough just to know it's worse than awful.

As well as did montalk I found myself joyed to read on your calling on the Creator and Christed energies and the awesome results... these such moments are precious. I myself just shared my "break" with Christed spirit wink .

One other thing--

Earlier I was thinking about sleep paralysis, and awake paralysis for that matter. I was thinking it might be what it's like to experience all the elements of suffocation, save for being able to breath... a suffocation of all else except the one thing needed to maintain the body suspended inanimate for a short period of time. Air's all our bodies need, and given the right conditions, the rest may come up for "grabs".

GACK! Sheesh! What a creepy morning this has turned out to be.... hmm

Live and learn...

cool

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(((((Auendove)))))
This makes me think of something my four-year-old has said.  Sometimes he is afraid to go to sleep at night, because the "machine noise" will come.  It seems that this only happened at our former residence, and nothing we have here now makes the "machine noise".  "No, that's not the "machine noise".  That's the heater."  I haven't found anything that seems to duplicate this noise for him, but it seems to have affected him deeply.  If my son experienced anything like what you guys are describing, I can see why.
Kathy

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Thanks montalk, now I know that I am not completely nuts! Now to figure who it is and why there are doing this to people smile

Auendove,
Your quote of post #14 sure summed it up better than I could have, right on the money!! It is a terrifying experience that I would wish on no one. I was going to post earlier, but decided to take a drive and think on it for a bit. Ever since this happened I haven't been really able to sleep at that particuar time in the morning, its like an alarm clock going off, I am up at 3:00 whether I want to be or not. I think I have decided that I will try and find a positive aspect to this little episode, there has to be a nugget of good in it somewhere. And if it does happen again, hopefully I will be a little more prepared for it.  If you ever need to drop a line, email me at bones2112@gmail.com. As you say, live and learn! big_smile

freeme,
I hope your son doesn't have any more visits. But let him know that there is help available to him when he needs it, just call on the Divine Creator and the Christ Consciousness! smile

29 (edited by Auendove 2005-05-31 08:09:02)

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bones2112 wrote:

A few have said its just a transition to an OOBE, but I just don't know.

I've just revisited your first post, and I don't know who you're talking to, but all I can say to those few you've mentioned is: think again. And if it is indeed a transition to an OBE then it's one that goes against one's freewill (that's for freaking sure), and therefore transpires violently.

bones, I've had plenty of OBE's, ones I've breathed for, others spontaneously occurring, and NEVER EVER once have they manifested in this fashion.

bones2112 wrote:

If you ever need to drop a line, email me at bones2112@gmail.com.

This is very kind and generous of you wink , the same to you. I'm okay though lovey (and you too freeme), those were just some moments where the body remembered the fear and confusion I felt at the time the incident happened. Unpleasant as it may've been, that was then, this is now, and as I sit here today I tell you--S'all good!

Better by far to know I was holding onto that discourse, than not... yes? And now it's processed... s'all good dude smile .

And 3 AM? It's a rare thing for me, for over 10 years now, not to be awake at that time. It used to frustrate the she-ite outta me, but now I read or do energy work on myself. I've often wondered if the being awake at 3AM is a symptom of PTSD, the trauma part due to abduction issues.

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

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I was having a lot of anxiety during the 3 O'clock hour AM for awhile several months back, though I've been better lately.   

I'm currently in the middle of reading "Masquerade of Angels," and the abductee discussed in that book also had constant anxiety between 3-4 AM every morning.