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Topic: Reptillians, Wanderers, Awakening (was Nesara:)

http://nesara.us/pages/home.html

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A woman who claimed to have been a high-priestess of Poseidon, Atlantis in her past life, in charge of protecting and using the Crystal Skull now known as the Mayan Skull, gave me this link.

She says this will lead to first-contact. I told her of what I know and of my concerns. Perhaps she isn't even who she claims she is, but I like giving the benefit of the doubt to people who speak vividly and passionately before calling them nuts. Especially when I know those that speak the truth in a twisted society, usually sound nuts anyway.

So she says first-contact will arise and regardless of my doubts, it will arrive nonetheless. Let's say she's correct..."false prophets" said by Jesus to arrive and that which the Pleideans and the C's state, aren't those warnings referred to such a "first-contact" scenario?

I got a gut feeling that the Reptillians will arrive with cures for illnesses and free-energy technologies that will supposedly save our planet, yet this will be to distract us from the real work necessary by light-workers. It'll be like them asking us to throw in the towel to our efforts because their here now to help us evolve. Yet the C's state we do not need any help to evolve. We have all we need within our cells. I think we all need to keep ourselves kept under the veil of discernment in the next following years.

Comments?

2 (edited by wandering1 2004-05-17 19:45:17)

Re: Reptillians, Wanderers, Awakening (was Nesara:)

If the Reptilians openly arrive in any form I think that people will just go nuts and society will unravel.  I think that the same is true for any obviously alien-looking species.  I think that the Reptilians are able to operate most effectively behind the scenes where it is difficult to know and prove that they exist.

I do resonate with what you say about cures for illnesses and free-energy technologies being offered.  It could be offered through a controlled New World Order system which does not explicitly involve aliens.  I think that the one type of aliens that the public might accept without going bonkers would be the so-called Nordics who look just like humans.

I can imagine induced physical and economic disasters leading to an attempted "lock-down" on society and a perpetual war mentality (at least until Dec 21, 2012).  I think that real and imagined human terrorist threats are more than enough for this and I don't see any need for explicit alien intervention coming from the "dark" side.

If there is an open first contact, I think that it may come from the "light" side.  Still, I am feeling very ready to be presented with deceptive situations - where ever they come from.  By networking, I think that we will be able to see through just about any deception offered to us.

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Everything is worth looking into if you apply discernment, but NESARA is one tangled mess. Their intentions are far from honorable and their followers are far from discerning. It's like zetatalk for the patriot-movement.

From what I have found, NESARA is a disinformation project at worst, a scam at best, and a trap no matter which way you cut it. It works on the illusion that our government is legitimate and would restore itself to an honest constitutional republic if only the right bill were passed. NESARA, which stands for National Economic Security and Reformation Act, does actually exist, but not in the form claimed by the people who run this organization.

They're just taking something legitimate and building an entire hook-you-by-the-gills movement that keeps gullible people on the edge of their seat waiting for NESARA to see the light of day. It sucks money and time from its supporters, and its New Age angle endorses techniques that also extract loosh from them with all the tantalizing buildups and let downs, so that points to who's ultimately behind this.

Every so often they say our day of liberation is almost here, that NESARA will be passed any day now, and to send more money and prayers to ensure this happens. Then nothing happens, people get disillusioned, and the organization goes to work building up hope again until the next round. They're very good at boxing in their believers by making up conspiracies like there being NESARA impostor websites, disinformation agents trying to bring them down, etc... when in fact they themselves are the ones running the scam.  Conspiracies do exist, but not all are genuine and some are designed to distract people, as is the case here.

It gets even crazier when the legal angle of NESARA expands into the New Age and Alien subjects:

This is now “the end of the age“?, the end of our Earth’s last civilization in third dimension and the beginning of the Age of Enlightenment.  The Kingdom of Heaven is now being established on Earth Shan, as our planet raises her frequencies and becomes our Terra Nova (new Earth).  The public announcement of NESARA (National Economic Security And Reformation Act) shall signal our entry into the Age of  Peace, Freedom, and Abundance under Galactic Solar Tribunal Law, the Laws of Creator God  and Creation.  All people shall return to Love and become a member of our new Galactic Terra Nova Society or leave to continue their lifestreams elsewhere.

http://www.fourwinds10.com/phb/PHB-nutshell.html - from fourwinds10.com, the NESARA organization's more New Age website.

BB, if the Nibiruan Council stuff gives you a sick feeling, this stuff should have made you toss your cookies wink What I see going on with NESARA is that it closely apes the truth enough to slip in the lies. This organization is one of the larger nodes in the web of deception that includes numerous other questionable websites.

Check out their links section - you see a majority of good websites in the link categories that are beyond the aims of the disinformation scheme, and about 90% questionable websites in the categories serving that agenda. You can learn a lot about the structure of the disinformation network by examining what other websites and people each of the nodes in that network endorse. Many of those involved aren't aware of their roles.

As always, the hyperdimensional, spiritual, and alien stuff is what these agendas target for subversion because those are what really matter, while current events, legal issues, and the more mundane A-influence stuff they care less about. Rodolfo/IlikeIcke's posts demonstrated this same pattern of clean division between what subject to attack and what to rabidly endorse. So take note of this trend, it shows you what they are worried about being revealed and applied.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

4 (edited by BlackBox 2004-05-17 19:29:15)

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wandering1 wrote:

I think that the one type of aliens that the public might accept without going bonkers would be the so-called Nordics who look just like humans.

I've been resonating with this very much. However I'm starting to believe that the Nordics aren't exactly what we are expecting. I think the Nordics are many of US. I think when the cells awake and our DNA activates, WE become the Nordics. Or rather we remember that we have been them all along. By "we", I mean who ever presumes to be a light-worker. I also think that the prime-number sychronicites, the so-called Master Numbers, are the "call" to those humans who are Nordics. I may be wrong, but if Nordics are the only help we need as the C's state, then this is a BIG CLUE. It points also to help being within the system, and the only way to CHANGE a system, is for those who are within. Humans and none-other.

Montalk wrote:

BB, if the Nibiruan Council stuff gives you a sick feeling, this stuff should have made you toss your cookies.

ooooh, Tom made a joke. (BB takes out the champaigne and strawberries) I hope you know I share your opinions on Nesara, Tom. What I'm refering to is that Nesara is supposedly linked to first-contact by this woman. That's what I want your opinion on Tom, not the mumbo-jumbo that gives both of us a head-ache. smile Nesara is nothing but disinformation and I told her this. But what interests me is that someone who claims to have been a high priestess, a guardian of a crystal skull (which is filled with infinite knowledge??) can believe (1) that Nesara will lead to our greatest wishes to come true, and (2) first contact with a heroic alien race.

She is obviously either being remote-controlled, possessed, or is just too niave this time around. But she also has said her memories haven't really been awakened yet, so maybe she'll come around if this big DNA-activation memory-wake up wave occurs. As you can all tell, I'm becoming a real believer of the whole light-workers in disguise as a human idea... smile

Thanks Tom and Wandering1 for your comments. I'm turning into a fruit lately from all of this focus on love and light, so watch out, you might find me running after you two for a group hug.

Damn, I need a beer or something to snap me out of this...hehe

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BB wrote:

I got a gut feeling that the Reptillians will arrive with cures for illnesses and free-energy technologies that will supposedly save our planet, yet this will be to distract us from the real work necessary by light-workers. It'll be like them asking us to throw in the towel to our efforts because their here now to help us evolve. Yet the C's state we do not need any help to evolve. We have all we need within our cells. I think we all need to keep ourselves kept under the veil of discernment in the next following years.

Like Wandering said, their physical image may not go over well with most people, so they'd be more likely to stay behind the scenes as long as possible.

Regarding the C's statements on this subject, I recall they said that "first contact" would be with human-looking aryan beings fronting for the reptilians. This makes sense, since it's already programmed within nearly every culture on earth to subconsciously see blond white people as superior. Forgot whether the C's said who these blond beings are supposed to be in actuality, whether members of the underground human civilization popping above the surface to say hello, or whether they are Orion STS (the superiors to reptilians). I'm reminded of the movie "V" where the aliens were actually reptilians wearing human masks. Another possibility is that they are alien-human hybrids. I tried searching the transcripts but finding the right keywords is difficult.

Another thing the C's said is that the invasion would happen when programming was complete. I guess that means when earth's population is sufficiently programmed to not go bonkers when first contact is made. Perhaps as Wandering suggested, this first requires the implementation of the NWO, the totalitarian global government to lockdown and stabilize the planet and hand it over to the "dark alien overlords."

As I wrote on another thread, once I had a funny dream about this scenario where such events speculated above were shown to me in carricaturized form. In the dream, after seeing alien ships on news programs, there came the introduction to humanity of blond humans in golden jump suits, who despite being attractive had very cold eyes. They were presented as saviours and the best thing that has happened to mankind since e-z-cheese. I saw propaganda posters trying to make these blond beings look good, and eventually the image of reptilians were incorporated. I saw television cartoons and kid's books containing cute smiling reptilians wearing golden helmets. Maybe I just took too much melatonin, haha...

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Re: Reptillians, Wanderers, Awakening (was Nesara:)

Do you have problems sleeping Tom? I have melatonin, but lately I seem to not have any sleeping problems. Maybe it's the Qigong or the audio-sessions I use.

What do you think about my Nordic = US idea? Obviously I'm the millionth person to think of it (or at least I think many people have put it together already, nothings original).

Or are the Nordics actual foreign aliens, separate from us?

7 (edited by BlackBox 2004-05-17 19:48:03)

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And your thoughts on the blonde Aryans makes me think the KKK and the Neo-Nazi's are going to be thinking they'll be finally getting a lift back home. smile

Oh wait, it blew up...who's going to break the news to them?

Re: Reptillians, Wanderers, Awakening (was Nesara:)

I think the craziness at the NESARA website is contagious...feeling a little kooky myself right now after reading it big_smile  Or maybe it's just the subject matter. I mean, the idea of mankind's open contact with reptilian aliens or their PR crew - the subject is speculative enough that its serious implications can be met with an equal dose of humor.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

9 (edited by wandering1 2004-05-17 20:08:12)

Re: Reptillians, Wanderers, Awakening (was Nesara:)

Ok, let's run with it.  Let's say we (so-called regular humans) are the Nordics (a group of non-human alien beings that look like Northern Europeans). 

I guess it may matter what it means to be human.  How do we define human?

I think that a conventional biological definition of a species is a group of organisms that can interbreed and have viable offspring.

Given the biotechnology that is available or may be available in the near future, the creation of hybrids of various different species may create a need for a more robust definition of a species.

Perhaps species could be defined by DNA signatures.

There is also the idea of shapeshifting.  This appears in many movies such as X-men and was also popularized in the X-files.

Apparently some shamans know how to shapeshift.  Some people say that they have seen shamans change from looking like a person then shifting to a bush and then to a bird and then to a jaguar.

What if the DNA patterns change when this happens, as I would think that they must.

I think that a person who can change forms at will is able to identify with a deeper essence and can change forms like people change clothes.

Perhaps identity can be thought of a resonance patterns, which may be more generalized than a DNA definition.

If a person resonates at a particular frequency, then that frequency characterizes what that person is.  If a person changes frequencies (willingly or not) then maybe that person is actually changing what they are.

So perhaps it really comes down to how one defines human and Nordic.

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Well let's say there are millions of POTENTIAL Nordics among the billions of humans.

These Nordics were sent in, as the Pleideans have said, to come in and change the course of our present reality. The free-will rule-of-thumb must be obeyed under 5th Density, so the only way to change, is to BE.

Now lets say out of the millions of Nordics, "N" number of them wake up while the rest fail to awaken either through death, fear, or whatever.

Nordics could be best described as "Super-Heros". That is why I saw the movie Unbreakable when I did. To point me to this. The "call" of the Super-Hero's AKA Nordics are a set of things bunched together. Number sychronicities (prime numbers), intuition and the effect of networking together via the beautiful internet, to name a few.

Once the call is "accepted" via the actions of the potential Nordics, a set of events occur that were pre-planned and predestined. Reality bends as if the earth itself responds to the "install" program, which then magnetizes/attracts the Holy-Grail challenges of consciousness to awake the cells and activate the DNA.

This is not to say that many humans aren't super-hero-like in their own merit, but that these Nordics are the beings of light, the super-hero's that are present to resist the false prophets and guide the population with their vibrations BOLDLY. Their frequency becoming so strong that fearful average humans can have someone on the side of light to lean to.

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Maybe the number of Nordics are fewer. (this from my email discussion with Tom)

Just putting a nice disclaimer on my possible exageration before he responds. smile Hey, but it makes sense for there to be fewer, hehe, because there can't be a million Super-heros....or can there? DUN DUN Dunnnnnn...

hehe.

Re: Reptillians, Wanderers, Awakening (was Nesara:)

I see.  Very well put!

I see you using Nordic as a general term for someone who is aligned with the "light" or "family of light."

Perhaps 5th or 6th density positive would be another way to say it.

Or one could say 5th or 6th density inclusive (STO) vs. 5th or 6th density exclusive (STS).

I think that everyone has the potential to rise to 4th or 5th or 6th density, its just that it's so much easier to do after you've done it before.  It's like returning home.  Of course, if you have never been there, it will be harder to find.

Weren't the Law of One folks suggesting about 1% for the percentage of higher density inclusive beings?  And that was the early 1980s, so I think that it would be higher now with the increase in "advanced" children and babies who are coming in.

13 (edited by BlackBox 2004-05-17 20:41:57)

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wandering1 wrote:

I see you using Nordic as a general term for someone who is aligned with the "light" or "family of light."

I could be wrong in using it so broadly. But at the same time, I could be right. Only discussion and the future will tell.

And it stirs my energy like vodka on ice to speak of these things... smile

All Nordics are part of the family of light, but all family of light are perhaps not Nordics. Part of the hierarchy I suppose, which is only a hierarchy even in STO because of the densities of awareness.

14 (edited by wandering1 2004-05-17 20:46:48)

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BlackBox wrote:

We have all we need within our cells. I think we all need to keep ourselves kept under the veil of discernment in the next following years.

By "keeping under the veil of discernment" are you suggesting that it is better to work in an "undercover" way?

From looking at tv and the movies, it seems that people are allowed to express truth-like ideas as long as they do not say them too directly.

For example, I see cartoon animation as an indirect medium where shows like the Simpsons and South Park are able to get away with things that they never could with live human actors.

Also, I think of truth-like ideas in The Matrix, Star Wars, V, and X-files and I think that people are able to say quite a lot as long as there is some level of disguise or non-truth.

In fact, between first open contact, conspiracy, 2012 shift, alien implants, channeling, higher level positive and negative beings, etc., there is more than enough for many tv and movie screenplays. 

And after all, it is all so fantastic and out of this world, it is clearly just science fiction, right?

Anybody interesting in putting together some scripts?

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wandering1 wrote:

By "keeping under the veil of discernment" are you suggesting that it is better to work in an "undercover" way?

I think you just explained it pretty well.

wandering1 wrote:

Right now I'm working on improving myself, mentally, physically, etc.

I think part of my purpose in this time is to create movies, so it's funny that you mention it. And games also. I will also imbed sound-wave technology into the works to have maximum resonation.

But, I need the funding first. And to recieve the funding or gain the funding, I must train myself to be exceptional. To stand out above the rest. Then perhaps I can invent something or organize something that will allow myself and others to venture towards some great things.

"Good things happen progressively. Great things happen all at once."