[ Closed ] From Jazzpen to Shanjuran vis Eagle Red (Page 9 of 20)

wandering1,
                   I do appreciate it when you put some energetic thought into your posts. I am evasive, as you say, because whatever I say about myself is merely more for my critics to feast on and meanwhile the message itself is sidelined, but, as you keep insisting I'll try to speak for myself.

My life has been an unusual one to say the least. It has been a series of challenges set, I now know, to wake me up. This is not so unusual, I know, and anyone who faces their challenges in life and overcomes them does achieve a degree of enlightment. I think where it went beyond what might be considered the norm was due to a very deep belief, or faith, that each of us carries something very precious inside us. I mean apart from the soul, inner light, love, truth, whatever....What I'm trying to say is, there is this precious gift beyond value that is given to each of us and if we search for it all our lives, through all the challenges and no matter how dim the light of hope becomes or how dispirited we become at times, and we refuse to compromise when it is offered and we show that we are prepared to die rather than surrender it then one day this precious gift reveals itself to us.

I like to think that my writing, albiet much open to critism, reflects a sincere attempt on my part to be truful. I am a self-controlled being, it is difficult therefore to picture myself as being perceived to  being manipulated, or under the sway of the subjects mentioned some of my posts. To me the idea is absurd but, okay, I see maybe some of you are going to have doubts. I can only assure you I am free from any negative forces but how can I prove that to your satisfaction? I don't see how that is possible. At some point you yourself have to go on your intuition and if your intuition tells you that I am the pawn of some devious plot to fool you then you must stop reading my work and speaking with with me. I know I haven't addressed all your concerns here, I'm not trying to be evasive but my time is limited. Later, and thanks for persevering where other's have dropped off.

Jen,
      I think that connecting to Nature and spending time outdoors in the sun etc goes without saying. It is certainly my own 'natural' habitat. It would be rather difficult to re-establish contact with the sun any other way.

montalk,
              I guess it comes down to a matter of choice. To imagine that the external is not valid in the great scheme of things is somewhat naive to may own way of  seeing things.
         I am not talking about externalizing, that is your erroneous interpretation. I have said more than once I believe, that it is a matter of realignment. This is something that Barefoot Doc can't grasp either. We are human beings. Maybe in the course of evolution (if we are ever allowed that opportunity) we will come to the point where we do contain everything within but are you seriously suggesting that we are at that point now? Reach out and you will touch something. That is where we are now. Or maybe I'm just making excuses.

It's always wise to look at an issue from all angles. Anything less would be foolish. So that's what we are doing here, analyzing your message to see what holds water and what does not. Truth always survives critical analysis, so if your message has truth you have nothing to worry about. Some things only time can reveal, other things we can resolve through discussion.

Onward....

To say that the sun is "your one certain contact" implies other contacts are less certain, that an internal source of guidance is inferior to the external one. That is externalizing, placing the spiritual in subservience to the physical.

I would advocate both internal spiritual and external physical resources, prioritized in that order. What you have stated so far either reverse the order or omits the internal spiritual component.  Reach out and touch Jesus, reach out and touch Gaia, reach out and touch the Solar Logos -- that's great and all, but what's so hard about also finding your inner center, your Real I, your Higher Self?

Also, contrary to your "logic" it is not necessary to contain everything within to have a source of guidance that exceeds in verity and certainty another source in question. It is only  necessary that a source at one level (internal spirit) is more reliable than a source at another level (external intelligence).

The proof of this is as follows: how many people have gotten "burned" hitching their faith on an external source of salvation? How many people have gotten burned following their hearts?

Please forgive me, but I don't understand.  What is the "purpose" of focusing on the Sun?  I think I've missed this point.

We are all spiritual beings seeking to rediscover our true nature - that hidden, spiritual part in each of us that we call soul. Soul is the all-powerful and all-present part of our being that never dies. It is our primary and most basic unit of awareness; it knows no boundaries of time or space. Throught his divine faculty we communicate with God, and the splendor of the Creator's essence is revealed to us.  At least, that's how I've seen it.

Perhaps Jazzpen, you could elucidate on your subject that I might see your view more clearly.

On reading this entire post, I see it deteriorating into anger.  Let us remember that the word maya has another meaning, which is "illusion".  It's like smoke and mirrors.  I remember how I felt when I first read the Cassiopaen works with all its complexity.  I was confused, skeptical, and even angry that parts of it was written on a level that I could not yet understand.  Some of us here sound angry that we are not getting the answers we want from Jazzpen.  Perhaps that's not the best approach. 

Let us try to see this from soul's perception which allows us to see everything in life nonjudgmentally; Soul is fully aware that nothing in the lower worlds escapes the law of cause and effect.  Soul perceives situations as they truly are and has no need to respond positively or negatively.  From that point of view - what is OUR response. 

We all have innate qualities and capabilities.  Human consciousness represents attachment to positive and negative thoughts and emotions, and bondage to the Earth.  We must be aware of the difference between thought coming from soul, and thoughts coming from human awareness. Most of us here can distinguish this.

Let us remember that only the ego gets sustenance and nourishment from what has been or what is to come; it loves nostalgia, the comfort of the past, and has grave concern for its survival in the future.  Let compassion guide our thoughts, words, and deeds.

There is a lesson here for all of us.