Re: From Jazzpen to Shanjuran vis Eagle Red
zonabi, forgive me.
Its just that I'm trying to sensitize everyone to the reality
of our human predicament.
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zonabi, forgive me.
Its just that I'm trying to sensitize everyone to the reality
of our human predicament.
Ok, what you're saying seems to come through with a more harmonious tone at this point.
Maybe you were feeling overwhelmed with the prospect of a doomsday scenario.
Out of all the Mayans from the previous period, in your opinion, are you the only one here? Do you think that there might be other people here who are Mayans as well?
Freeme, hi
... I can see that you are a genuinely tuned-in human. May everyone come to have eyes as open as yours. Peace.
Jazzpen,
I don't know about that
. I certainly am trying. Personally, though, I would be REALLY careful about uninvited Lizzie guests.
What I do fail to see, is how insulting people is going to sensitize anyone to humanity's predicaments. There are other ways to get a positive point across, correct? We are all just learning here.
Kathy
In return, the Maya were brought to Earth by the Pleiadians and were allowed to live in peace for a long period until the Maya came to see that they were living in a world of illusion. They came to see that all the human races were actually being controlled, deceived and manipulated, and for the most horrendous of reasons.
Interesting to explore how the mayan blood sacrifice fits into this.
It is no coincidence that almost all of the ancient civilizations 'worshipped' the sun. What else did they have? What other hope was there for them once they had learnt the terrible truth of their lives.
Ancient civilisations also worhipped the earth and seemed to have knowledge that is was the suns interaction with the earth that made life possible. What else did they have? a spirit and a soul and an creater perhaps.
The sun. The Maya approach to the sun was simply to extend their hearts out to it. It wasn't hard to see that the sun had forever been the true benefactor of human kind. Maybe in their hour of greatest need the sun would save them.
They atuned their heart-beat vibrations to the rays of the sun and allowed their deepest desirs and fears to travel back into the heart of the sun itself.
This is one theme that runs throughout all religion and belief models that we are encouraged to connect to external sources rather than our higher self and god within.
Nothing will survive upon Earth. By the time the Predators have 'cleaned up', Earth will be as barren and ugly as Pluto and will have been pushed away from the sun to make way for incoming Venus. Earth will take up orbit somewhere in the dead wastes of outer space.
I suspect another armagedon/doomsday seed planted into humanity so the fear can be milked by archons/STS/demonic beings.
If we live in fear and contiue buying into the illusion the more chance of a self fullfilling prophecy along these lines.
I say it once again: The sun is the only true friend we have.
Don't you believe you have a soul and spirit and higher selves, we are all one, IMO that connection felt in your heart is the key.
All the Maya, through me, are here to help you. Trust us. We mean you no harm. We too are humans. We might exist on another dimension to you but we have not forgotten you at this time of your greatest need.
Feel outward with you hearts, you will feel our presense there with you. Fear not for we are all united in courage. Our own courage is also yours.
Again this reminds me of connecting to external sources who we have no real knowlege of and rings alarm bells. As we know negative entities can pretend to be divine light beings or saviours of mankind through challening and other means.
We are always encouraged to look for anwsers and saving from outside of ourselves throughout history rather than saving ourselves and purifying our souls from within.
This whole concept feels wrong to me and i suspect archon/STS/demonic/matrix influence here to create fear and externalise our search for spiritual truth. Same old story just wearing a new hat, do what we say and you will be "saved"
These are just my opinions and thoughts which can always change and do. I hope i dont sound harsh but this thread was presented as a preach rather than a sharing of ideas and thought.
All the Maya, through me, are here to help you.
You've got a very serious Messianic Complex there Jazzpen. Messianic Complexes are very deadly usually. You might want to have a think about that.
This whole concept feels wrong to me and i suspect archon/STS/demonic/matrix influence here to create fear and externalise our search for spiritual truth. Same old story just wearing a new hat, do what we say and you will be "saved".
Agree completely!!
Andy
wandering1,
There are only two of us here. The remainder exist in the World of Maya. The Maya live and speak as one, therefore we all speak through me here on Earth. When you speak to me you speak to all the Maya.
Barefoot Doc,
You can only take it as you can see it, we realise this, and we don't fool ourselves that everyone will accept our help.
Our loving help is offered to everyone who wants it. We are simply offering you that choice. Your words reveal to us your choice because your words predetermine your actions.
freeme,
I too am learning and I feel bad about the way I have been bungling my way through this. I have no experience of acting out the stern, serious, dire, type but how else am I going to rattle people awake. Being nice and polite, and calmly outling our human plight logically and 'sensibly' is not going to cut it. This is a matter for the human heart not the mind. People who are mind-controlled will not be able to accept what I have been saying, and even less will they be able to accept the solution that I, the Maya, offer. But that doesn't matter. Our way is to penetrate straight through them to the people who do matter. Peace, freeme.
Jazzpen wrote:All the Maya, through me, are here to help you.
You've got a very serious Messianic Complex there Jazzpen. Messianic Complexes are very deadly usually. You might want to have a think about that.
Barefoot Doc wrote:This whole concept feels wrong to me and i suspect archon/STS/demonic/matrix influence here to create fear and externalise our search for spiritual truth. Same old story just wearing a new hat, do what we say and you will be "saved".
Agree completely!!
Andy
Agree with both points.
I think that one of the tricks used by STS entities is to encourage wild evangelical movements, which can be easily manipulated and/or subverted for STS purposes. I experienced these sorts of compulsions (spread the good news!) in the aftermath of my enlightenment experience, and it was quite compelling. Only in hindsight have I come to understand that this is an STS trick because it was perfectly designed to stimulate a sense of priviledged awareness in me, which leads directly to arrogance, false pride, and hubris. What brought me back to sanity was an awareness that the STO plan that I witnessed was not only initiated a LONG time ago, but I was made intimately aware of it's absolute perfection and application, and I am now content with both the plan itself, how it works, and my purpose within it. Very ego-smashing stuff, but even then I was forced to concede that there was no way that I could "know it all" so I then had to consider that I was being manipulated by those entities which might be opposed to this plan.
When words and actions are in conflict, believe actions. The common theme I see in these visions is an insistence that we must blindly trust an entity that directly employs the STS tools of fear and mystery, and that it's messenger seems to knowingly partake in the same methods. Check written, deposited, and cashiered.
Jazzpen, how do you know what you know? Since when did you know that you are part of the Mayans? What experiences drove you to this conclusion?
When you speak of the Matrix, I assume you mean the actual energy system we are trapped in and not the PTB's agenda???
It would be interested to hear your experiences of how the Matrix tries to trap you....one experience I have been having has been of a repetitive nature.
Week after week, I have been meeting - through various synchronicities - happy, middle-aged men who are married, compassionate, worldly, gentle, people.....three recently on separate occasions: people who were charity or freedom workers, who have actually physically improved lives in third-world countries. They were all units of 'love' and unity rather than dogma/separation. Question is, what are they teaching me?
I am not sure whether meeting these men is/was a lesson glaring me in the face, or whether it is the Matrix (expert synchronist!) trying to convince me that I am not to abandon my former beliefs about the planet and reason to be (i.e. my 'saviour' instinct, which had almost diminished since discovering the Matrix itself). Lately, you see, I have had enough of this reality and just want to opt out. Was the Matrix trying to seduce me back by using my Achilles' Heel?
(My AH being: I adore soft, gentle, socially-conscientious men who have made a difference). Needless to say, I'm in no need for a new partner so there is 0 sexual to do with any of this. The Matrix uses sex, usually, very cleverly to dupe us humans, wouldn't you agree?
Any other examples?
Divinity
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Geezus H, where have I heard this before? Follow me, only me, and you'll be "saved"? Ignore me at your peril? Puhleese! This tune is so hackneyed it would be hilarious were it not so utterly offensive.
I have never been and will never be "won over" nor "taken in" by fear mongers. Fear tends to depress or paralyze and is antithecal to living, loving, feeling, and creating. Same old predictable tactics used for eons by countless wannabe "saviours".
The only one who's going to "save" me is myself. It's all in how I live and love, for myself and for others. Figured that one out decades ago, and it still rings true.
Also I just read Stuart Wilde's article on "Claridad" only yesterday. I consider that short, simple piece to be an excellent take/description on the Messianic Complex. And especially timely to me!
The only one who's going to "save" me is myself. It's all in how I live and love, for myself and for others. Figured that one out decades ago, and it still rings true.
I agree 100%
What is it about our own inner discovery and saving ourselves that eons of religions and false gurus whether driven by ego or manipulated by negative forces, seem to fear the most?
JP never answered any questions about our own inner light, spirit or connection to ultimate source, i can see why now, thats the last thing these people want us doing for very good reason.
I get the impression they posted a few previous interesting threads to make out how "wise" they were and try to impress then dropped the big one in which was planned all along.
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