1 (edited by Barefoot Doc 2005-05-14 10:44:27)

Topic: Fluoride detox

The dangers of fluoride and the monumental cover up will not be anything new to NR members.
How about solutions to trying to eliminate this horror from our bodies.
Basically fluoride is in teflon, pestasides and food and beverages such as wine, beer and soft drinks.
Natural foods and drinks such as tea contain high levels of fluoride however as this is in organic form rather than a waste product from industry such as sodium fluoride it may not be such a problem and we need small amounts in our diet anyway of natural calcium fluoride.
A cup of green tea can contain 7mg. The problem is if this bonds to heavy metals in the body, some say yes others say no.

I have been researching some ways to try to to chelate it out of the body. Most authorities say this is very difficult as it stores in bones and brain.
This includes:
Chlorella
Sea greens such as kelp
Selenium & zinc
Deep breathing
Oxygen therapies.
Calcium and magnesium supplements.
Exercise and sweating.
Heavy metal detox programmes as fluoride bonds to metals easily such as
Magentic clay both taken internally and applied to skin , Homeopathic detox (heavy metal and fluoride in potency)  fasting, barley grass, juice fasting, distilled water, the herb cilantro, vitamin C and MSM, bee pollen.
Colloidal siver is supposed to prevent fluoride poisoning.

Bowel cleansing along with kidney and liver herbs will help these organs to eliminate more toxins.

I have no idea how effective these are but they they are all healthy taken in moderation so nothing to lose.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Thanks a bunch for this info. Barefoot Doc.  smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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lyra wrote:

Thanks a bunch for this info. Barefoot Doc.  smile

Cheers lyra, much of continental Europe and other parts of the world have   either banned flouride from domestic  water supplies or not enforced it, the UK seems to have adopted the myth, now water companies can fluorinate water supplies legally. My local water does so the best protection is either buy a water distiller or a reverse osmosis device for drinking water, these are the only known proven ways to completely remove flouride from water. Filters may only reduce it or not at all depending.
Seems fluoride not only reduces IQ but makes people more apathetic, docile and  suscepatable to NWO brainwasing as well as its devasting  affect on long term health.
A good article here on fluoride:

http://www.doewatch.com/f.html

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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About 2 years ago I gave up fluoride toothpaste, but I did so with shifty nervousness and periodically still check for cavities.  big_smile  I can't help it, the programming of  NO FLUORIDE = CAVITIES  is so ingrained in me.  As a kid in the Northeast they actually administered fluroride mouth "swish" to us in school.  Once a week the school nurse came around with her tray of little paper Dixie cups full of either pink or green fluroride treatment, called "swish", because we swished it around our mouths then spit it back into the cup.   And in school they PUMMELED it into our heads, year after year about fluoride.  I literally believed until several years ago that the only thing preventing people's teeth from rotting out is fluoride.   yikes.   

(but i still nervously check for cavities....i can't help it!!)

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Barefoot Doc,

You mention that fluoride is in wine and beer.  I partake of a little wine
most evenings (no more than a glass or two) and the occasional beer.
Would you recommend I stop?

I've studied nutrition in depth myself.  Two more  items I would add to your excellent list of ways to get fluoride and heavy metals out of our bodies: garlic and brewer's yeast.

Jen

6 (edited by cameron 2005-05-14 21:46:31)

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It's so funny to watch my dentist and teeth-cleaning-people when I tell them that Floride is bad for our brains.  I do almost everytime I visit.

Last week my dentist tried to wow me with his statistics of 500 some county school children that he surveyed over a 2 year period.  The one's that used (Floride) toothpaste had less cavities.

But I asked him, did you really check to see if the other students, the ones with the cavities were also using toothpaste, but rather Floride-free toothpaste?

Well, no.  The comparison in his 'proof' was between kids who brush their teeth and kids who don't.

The point is that I don't remember a time when Floride-free toothpaste was readily available in the market.  As of now, it's more of a specialty item -- Tom's Of Maine or the like -- and costs more than the Colgate special.

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Jen wrote:

Barefoot Doc,

You mention that fluoride is in wine and beer.  I partake of a little wine
most evenings (no more than a glass or two) and the occasional beer.
Would you recommend I stop?

I've studied nutrition in depth myself.  Two more  items I would add to your excellent list of ways to get fluoride and heavy metals out of our bodies: garlic and brewer's yeast.

Jen

Brewer's yeast rocks! I definitely became addicted to it during a stint in outward bound half a lifetime ago. Try it on popcorn.

8 (edited by Barefoot Doc 2005-05-15 01:22:30)

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Jen wrote:

Barefoot Doc,

You mention that fluoride is in wine and beer.  I partake of a little wine
most evenings (no more than a glass or two) and the occasional beer.
Would you recommend I stop?

I've studied nutrition in depth myself.  Two more  items I would add to your excellent list of ways to get fluoride and heavy metals out of our bodies: garlic and brewer's yeast.

Jen

Hi Jen, some of it is due the the pestasides sprayed on grapes and hops  that contain fluoride and things like orange juice made from concentrate and soft drinks where  fluorinated water can be added depending on where the factory sources its water. Organic beer and wine should be ok.

I also enjoy beer and wine in moderation you may find this table helps as it shows consumed fluoride levels in food and beverages. http://www.fluoridealert.org/f-concentrations.data.htm

Apparantly there is enough fluoride in a tube of toothpaste to kill a small child if they consumed it.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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I know what you mean Lyra it took years for me to lose my fears of non vaccination after this was indoctrinated into us.

The other side of fluoride though is that it can actually make the teeth more brittle as well as bones (osteoporosis)

I find brushing with a couple of drops of hydrogen peroxide and baking soda to be very good.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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As long as we are on the subject of brushing teeth,  I recently found this on the Web when I was looking for natural ways to whiten teeth.  Didn't get the URL, sorry bout dat:

The very best whiteners and cleansers for the teeth are:

1) Peelu Dental Fibers
2) Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide 35%

Peelu, unfortunately, is not that easy to find, even in the health food stores. Sometimes in the health food stores you can find other toothpastes that contain some Peelu in them, but the Peelu fibers themselves are more difficult to find. I am trying to get the Peelu product for my website's shopping section. The Peelu fibers are a powder. You put a little of the Peelu powder into the palm of your hand. You wet your toothbrush, then dip it into the fibers - then put 2 or 3 drops of Hydrogen Peroxide 35% onto the toothbrush as well. Then brush. That's what I use now and it works extremely well for me. The Peelu Dental Fibers product claims to whiten teeth on its own and then when added with the Hydrogen Peroxide it has even more whitening power. I've heard, but not confirmed, that the tooth whitening gels that are sold on TV have Hydrogen Peroxide in them. In order to use HP in drops, put some into a "plastic" dropper bottle (don't use a dropper bottle that has rubber on the top.)

The Peelu Dental Fibers are a very different experience in brushing your teeth. It took me a while to get used to it, but now I'm completely adapted. One 2.5 oz. container of Peelu will also last a very long time - months in fact, so it is very economical. 35% Hydrogen Peroxide is also very economical. A caution about Hydrogen Peroxide 35%. If you get some on your skin, it will turn the skin white in about 5 minutes and it can also make it sting or tingle. The whiteness and sting go away after a while and are not detrimental. There are many books written about Hydrogen Proxide 35%, which can also be ingested. The rule for ingestion, as I learned it, is 1 drop HP per 1 ounce of water.<<

I found the Peelu fibers and am brushing with them now and my teeth do look better.  Haven't yet located food grade Hydrogen Peroxide.

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GibbleTronic wrote:

Brewer's yeast rocks! I definitely became addicted to it during a stint in outward bound half a lifetime ago. Try it on popcorn.

Gibble, 

There's a difference between brewer's yeast and nutritional yeast.  Yes, I know it's confusing.  Nutritional yeast tastes a lot better and I agree it's awesome on popcorn  Thanks for reminding me, haven't had that in a long time.  It's great on rice too.

Brewer's yeast is NOT tasty but is a real nutritional heavy-hitter--very high in protein, GTF chromium, B complex, minerals etc.  Because of the taste, I take it in tablet form, one or two small handfuls a day.

Jen

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For about 2 years now I've been using toothpaste made from aloe vera, amongst other things. I buy it from a local health food store and although it's nowhere near as cheap as ordinary toothpase it seems to do the job. My teeth appear to be in better condition than they've ever been, although that's probably more to do with the fact I consume very little sugar these days.

Anyway the toothpaste is called AloeDent. You can read about it here : http://www.optimah.com/products/aloedent/dent001.html

Andy

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Ayahuasca wrote:

For about 2 years now I've been using toothpaste made from aloe vera, amongst other things. I buy it from a local health food store and although it's nowhere near as cheap as ordinary toothpase it seems to do the job. My teeth appear to be in better condition than they've ever been, although that's probably more to do with the fact I consume very little sugar these days.

Anyway the toothpaste is called AloeDent. You can read about it here : http://www.optimah.com/products/aloedent/dent001.html

Andy

That looks like decent stuff with the PH control  too.
I always avoid giving the NWO chemical companies my money where possible and buying safer and more effective things which do cost more.

On a different note does anyone use the crystal deoderant stones?
I was skepical at first but they really do work and seem so much better than putting aluminum and chemicals right into the lymph nodes with anti persperants.
One large crystal will last about a year.
see here http://www.danielsrx1.com/thai.html

Mnay naturopaths say how important it is to allow sweating from the arm pits.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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And if you keep your pits clean the bacteria won't build up and so there's no bad odor.  Probably just refreshing with a wet rag during the day would be enough to keep us from stinking.

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Barefoot Doc wrote:

On a different note does anyone use the crystal deoderant stones?
I was skepical at first but they really do work and seem so much better than putting aluminum and chemicals right into the lymph nodes with anti persperants.
One large crystal will last about a year.
see here http://www.danielsrx1.com/thai.html

Yes, I've tried it...no, it doesn't work.  wink  I'm not the only one who agrees it doesn't work though, apparantly others were disappointed in it too.   I don't / won't use anti-perspirant though....even my dad warned me about them back in junior high.   It's not a bright idea to be smearing aluminum into your pits day after day, year after year.   My friend Mike in CA developed round malignant cysts all around his arm pits which had to be surgically removed, and everybody is convinced it was due to anti-perspirant.  He had cancer basically at the age of 25, and it's why he moved back in with his parents in his 20's.   So, it's "all natural" deorderants for me.   Right now I'm using "Alba" brand clear enzyme deoderant stick with Tea Tree oil, baking soda, aloe vera and plant lichens.  It also includes peppermint oil and green tea extract.    It works for the most part.   "For the most part" meaning, unlike anti-perspirants, it won't knock out odor for like, 3 days straight.  It lasts about a full working day, but that's when most people would be showering anyway, so it's all good.  I've gone through pretty much every brand of all natural herbal deoderants and crystal sticks on the market (found at natural stores) in my quest to find The One big_smile and so far, Alba is it, it works the best, (for me).   People have different chemistries though, so different people will find success with different herbs and products.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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