As I mentioned on the OpTerra page, the post I'm making here is in part a response to monica's post there, but it's addressed to all members--
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 405#p21405
The post is #19 at the above link, and is as follows--
monica wrote:My take from previous experience is that OpTerra is a set-up for STS. Sounds good, looks nice, but is missing love. To me, anybody who continues to draw people in by saying they will be taken to a ship in 3D or even 4D form is running on a fear-based frequency. Ascension is ascending physical form ... raising consciousness to higher form, then releasing old form. Step by step. Not in an instant. Any other information is misleading. No saviors. No leaving before you've dealt with issues. My understanding is that the only way to sovereignty of self and planet is through consciousness ascension that changes physical form.
This message sounds like soul sucking to me. Messages such as these that discuss things don't come to pass in 3D physical as people are led to believe is to build up "loosh" so the ones upstairs can feed. "Reach for us, the light is close, work a little harder, put out a little more energy". So people trust and do as they are told. Then a portal opens or an experience happens or a predicted experience doesn't happen, and people make some sort of shift, unknowingly feeding the ones they are following their build-up of loosh. "I don't know why I'm so tired today. Must be ascension symptoms." Instead, they've been sucked dry.
Sananda was the head honcho of all STS, major false god. Anybody who uses the name Sananda in their work has suspicious contacts to me.
Peace,
Mon
I'm getting a kick out of how perfect this thread is for my post. I'm glad I did a search before starting a new thread
. It's funny, because when I wrote this post (I've only added a short few comments) I was concentrating only on monica's post, I hadn't a thought one of the relevance of the posts on this thread. Ha! There's even a reference to the OT thread concerning ascension! And because I have shared some info that doesn't necessarily coincide with what others are saying (all the while some of it does
), I just want y'all to know it wasn't written with any of your comments in mind. My post is not a challenge, it's not submitted here to convince anyone of anything...I'm just sharing my experiences and thoughts. As well, one of the posters on this page had privately asked me about 4D bleed through a few weeks back, and now that explanation will be taken care of
.
monica wrote:Ascension is ascending physical form ... raising consciousness to higher form, then releasing old form. Step by step.
Yes, it is my experience that "ascension", what I know as and call consciousness raising, is an incremental process that progresses under the influence of not only my own interpersonal issuance and on-world external influences (everything from personal relationships to world politics to channeled material), but as well, events in our solar system and the earth's position therein appear to be also influential. Those ebooks Jen was referring to look interesting. Thanks Jen for the reference.
For example--in the late spring of '03 I had read the HH messages, that late spring and summer there were also a number of astronomic/astrological events, but most importantly I had done my homework and was actually prepared to take an informed course of action at that time of opportunity. ...I'm now reminded of the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink"... in other words, the opportunity could've been there for me, yet if my awareness was less than prepared I wouldn't have known what to do with it, or maybe even that the opportunity existed. I have a number of times before become aware of lost opportunities after the fact.
I had accrued enough awareness about myself/energy field and was prepared to "step" across a particular personal bridge of consciousness that resulted from my reading the HH messages and interacting with the corresponding planetary interactions. Really, it all worked out very well for me
. I'm also very grateful that I didn't fall hook, line, and sinker for the whole she-bang that OpTerra came to be. I'd still be kicking myself in the arse, throwing a big ole nasty profanity ridden stink for putting myself in the position of no return while hyperdimensional beings surgically remove my soul.
monica wrote:Not in an instant. Any other information is misleading.
This is where I differ (and from more than a few I see). "Ascension"/consciousness raising is a process, the shifting of one's consciousness into another density is an event... if it's anything at all.
Even given what I've just written about consciousness raising, that it is a process with a supposed arrival point, there was everything of instantaneousness the two times I did walk in my 4D body. For this reason, I see "ascension" and a full density shift of consciousness as two different things. I see the the first as resultant of the refinement of one's inner-world, and the later as resultant from a refinement of one's relationship within the outer-world/environment... universal processes. Those two moments were most assuredly cases of light-bulb-on, light-bulb-off... all the while not having to go through the motion of flipping a switch.
Ahem.. and my experiences weren't the result of aliens surgically removing my core and showing it to me... I momentarily was my core, completely unfettered by 3D physicality. From the inside out I was what I have described numerous times, since 1998 when this twice happened, as a chromium-like core that shone brilliant light. I don't mean I literally had a chromium body, the word "body" simply doesn't apply as we know it. I mean my be-ing had that quality of near blinding light rays like is produced when the sun shines on an automobile bumper.
So, maybe the "ascension"/consciousness raising is indeed an ongoing 3D process, the interpersonal process of refining one's energy field while in body, yet based on my experience I do fully entertain the idea that the eventual arrival to that ultimate bridge of consciousness, a density border realm, at the most opportune time (what the Cs described as "the wave", and others may describe as an "in/out breath" moment of the Creator), and occurring the transition to another density realm will indeed happen "within the wink of an eye"
. I think the purported occurrence of realm borders shifting will redefine "bah-dah-bing" as we know it
.
I/we may "flicker" back and forth between the two density realms, but I think just as we must refine our energy fields, we'll also need to be able to freaking stabilize ourselves therein (gyroscopes, eh?
)... there may come a time we will be calling on ourselves to stand resolute, at a still-point, without personal "gravity", while everything else around us simply falls away... If I hadn't momentarily seen this happening with my own two eyes, looking at what was supposed to be my hand, then I surely would never be able to even guess here and now that it could be possible. I understand any skepticism that any one of you may chomping on right now
.
Actually, the first time it happened I was dumbfounded and wondered quietly to myself about it. It didn't hurt. I wasn't scared. It was just unprecedented.... for any of many OBE experiences I'd had to that point, nothing was like this was. It then happened again a few months later, under completely different circumstances, and I began to rethink my dumbfoundeness and worry. A few years later I had the opportunity to ask the Cs about it at a session, I think I've posted this, or part of this, somewhere else on the board, but I don't remember where (there is one Q period where there's a few people speaking almost at the same time, lot of brainstorming and conjecture about what was going on, but hang through it... it all worked out in the end, and some of that conjecture is interesting in itself) --
Cassiopaean transcript 2-23-02 wrote:Q: .....(V) I'll ask something unless someone else was ready to go. Twice maybe in the last 3 or 4 years - once at USF and once in my apartment - I was walking along and all of the sudden the environment had totally changed and it was like I was a light person. Can you tell me what that was?
A: 4D bleed through. We mentioned before that you ought to get used to it.
Q: (V) Well, it is not a "getting used to thing." It only happened twice and it was magnificent. I mean it was an experience. I can say now that I am experienced. (laughter) (L) And not Jimmy Hendrix! (V) Is there any way to generate this myself? It was just so spontaneous?
A: STS do that.
Q: (V) Do what? (L) Seek to generate such experiences for the sake of the experience. (R) Bring it on through the matrix, through technology, rituals, drugs, whatever. (JN) What were you smoking at the time (laughter)? (V) Yeah, right. So is there a positive or negative aspect to this?
A: Not unless you are not experienced! [L's laughing hard through the letter calling.]
Q: (L) I felt that coming and it was so funny! (V) While I was in this altered state, did I look the same to other people around me?
A: Yes.
Q: (R) You see it is only a perspective from an individual perspective.
A: Perception is bonded by awareness. Others are bonded to their awareness of you and all else.
Q: (V) Well, while this was happening to me, was this also happening to others in my general area?
A: No. Not likely. You do not yet realize how rare higher awareness is.
Q: (JN) What triggered it?
A: Frequency envelope thinning due to patterning imprint repetition of Violette in her environment.
Q: (V) Alright what's a frequency envelope you brainy types. (R) Actually, frequency envelope, [asking Ark] isn't that what we
were doing with the wave generating computer program? (A) Frequency envelope is something like that.
A: Your awareness maintains a frequency emanation in concert with those in your environment. When there are fluctuations in bonding frequencies both between you and your environment, and the frequency bonding of another, the fluctuations create discontinuities.
Q: (R) Okay, that makes sense. (L) It does? (V) Okay then tell me. (R) Okay. It's like resonance. If the environment has a particular frequency...hmm... (V) We were asking about the frequency envelope and what it is. (R) And it's Violette. And violet is high energy, right? The color spectrum right? [The group reviews the previous C's answer...] (R) Exactly, so it's a quantum
jump. GROUP: Yeah. (R) Because you're at one level and unless something strange happens that's where you're at. (L) In other words--you emanate energy, the other person emanates energy, and the energy exchange is between you and the environment, and between you and the person and the environment, and your environment is maintained, and the envelope of energy is
maintained around you. But if there is...what? Fluctuations? (R) Ah! "Your awareness maintains a frequency emanation in concert with those in your environment." Hence, if your environment has a frequency that allows for a higher frequency, I mean, it always has the lower, but in some cases it can allow for higher. (L) They're talking about it being fluctuations in the environment. If
somebody or something in you're environment is... (A) But the question is--which properties of environment that we can describe in terms of...(L) Well they're saying that the fluctuations are in Violette. (R) In concert with the environment. (L) And in concert with people who are in the environment. In other words, something is breaking up and you are no longer frequency bonded to the people in the environment in the same way; there is a fluctuation there. What is it called when you add too much energy to something? It becomes unstable. Your reality construct is unstable. That's what I would say. (R) You have a bigger marble that you can fit in a bigger hole if the hole happens to be there. (L) Right.
A: Rejoice! You are growing out of your shoes.
Q: (L) Your feet don't fit anymore! You need new shoes!
A: Basis: shoes.

Our universe too is in a state of energy refinement. It is a FRE also. At the moment our universe, our total environment, reaches a stable rate of frequency that transcends the utmost rate of frequency it now vibrates in, then everything will shift and become anew... maybe not a "perfect" anew, like Shangri-La or OpTerra's "Terra", but different from all we now know. Like the Cs said once, the result of the wave, as it will have the potential to affect a shift from 3D to 4D, and other density shifts, is that 4D 'will be a whole new playing field'
for passed 3D'ers. They made it fairly clear that it was in our best interest to not build "castles" where they didn't exist, that if we did we would be in for a rude awakening (paraphrased).
transcript con't. wrote:Q: (V) Okay. Perspective is a word that has been coming up a lot, so I am going to go ahead and ask about this. We all live in the same world, but yet we view our environment, what is going around us differently. One time a few years ago I was with a
psychic counselor, so to speak, a woman named P, and she insisted that in her world the Rainforest was not being degraded...
A: STS tend to make such statements because of denial of the very principle just described.
Q: (V) We were sitting there, and I was whining about how bad humans treat the earth, (this was when I was studying Environmental Science), and she was just insisting that, in her world, the Rainforest was just fine. And you know, I was just sitting there looking at her, and I just couldn't believe what she was saying was the truth. And I thought, "okay, is this woman traveling back and forth between realms or realities or what is the deal?"
A: She was abnegating any response... ability.
Q: (V) Well you know I stopped going and seeing those psychic people awhile ago (laughter).
A: Good plan! Hang out your own shingle and let them come to you!
Q: (V) I don't know about living the life of a psychic. (L) I think it was a joke. (V) Ah yeah, because I'm thinking "no way am I doing that!" (R) But the thing is, when that woman said, "in my world the Rainforest is okay," it means she had already made a judgment that...(V) Yeah, that she was somehow in a better place than I was. (L) Well it was also making a judgment against
the wisdom of the universe. It avoids the understanding that if the Rainforests are dying maybe there is a reason for it. (R) Exactly. All there is are lessons. (V) Well you know it was funny because I was taking a Geology course at the time and we were supposed to go on a diving trip down to South Florida, and it got stopped by a hurricane. But before that, this so-called
psychic told me she could see me going down there, following her healing recommendations, and all the dead coral would come back to life.
A: When the universe is ready to revive dead coral, you can bet it will revive.
Q: (V) Well I thought that was a pretty tall order for me to be taking care of it all by myself.
I don't think it a takes a huge leap of faith to replace what I've italicized with the essence ot the word refinement to see what I mean about "anew". I'm thinking how well we execute our consciousness raising is not what dictates whether or not a shift will occur, but I do think it will dictate the quality of what that shift will produce as a new environment.
monica wrote:No saviors. No leaving before you've dealt with issues.
As I think you'll agree monica, and I see here that others have also expressed as much, we are each our own saviors. Anybody telling us they can take away all our woes do so because they're hungry, not because they're benevolent.
We have only to recognize that saving grace and power within ourselves, and realize that it does not come from without... whether that "without" is a religion, or aliens, or 3D devises or potions, or wish-craft. Fortunately, I've found that awareness of our consciousness, including our "issues", our personal "gravity", is 99.9% of the trial. What we do with the remaining 1% can be cumbersome or it may be a cake walk; perception can be a cow, or it may be a butterfly
. Of course, those issues that are perceived as cumbersome, the ones we can't seem to find our way out of due to limiting thought patterns, become difficult to transmute... this I also know from experience, and to this day I still know this
. No doubt, I'm still in the "ascension" process
.
monica wrote:This message sounds like soul sucking to me. Messages such as these that discuss things don't come to pass in 3D physical as people are led to believe is to build up "loosh" so the ones upstairs can feed. "Reach for us, the light is close, work a little harder, put out a little more energy". So people trust and do as they are told. Then a portal opens or an experience happens or a predicted experience doesn't happen, and people make some sort of shift, unknowingly feeding the ones they are following their build-up of loosh. "I don't know why I'm so tired today. Must be ascension symptoms." Instead, they've been sucked dry.
Oh yeah, this was when my head was bobbing up and down at its greatest for reading your post.
During the beginning of this year, from about Feb. on until about a month ago I found my environment was filled with a free range of potential energy. As well, during this time there were some of those astronomic/astrological events that seemed to come into play, at least the way I "saw" it they did. It was like energy workers had a window of opportunity to more efficiently transmute and refine their energy fields, and I was truly amazed at how a few transmutations were nearly effortlessly happening... "ask for and ye shall receive" was never more apparent to me. The singularly most profound synchronicity of my life occurred during this time. This really was a time of major growth for myself, and not only just consciously... I possessed more physical energy on an ongoing day to day basis than I had in years. I felt like a well tuned engine just'a humming along down the road. There were definitely at least two months during this period of very active consciousness raising where I was physically energized.
Then BLAM! One Sat. about a month ago, the weekend before the London bombings, I was humming along, joyful with my progress, amazed with how many of the puzzle pieces of my life were coming together, then right outta the wild blue beyond I felt my awareness bristle big time, this being a personal cue that somebody/something was breaching my energy field. "On gaurd", I thought. From there on it was downhill, I was exhausted for nearly three weeks, I would even say I was nearing a clinical definition of exhaustion. Among other problems, I felt and visually sensed something like a vacuum cleaner had been hooked up to my energy field and was sucking the life out of me.
I hadn't all of the sudden become "tired" for being in an active phase of consciousness raising/ascension, I think myself and others (I wasn't the only person having troubles at this time) were being intervened upon for being in an active consciousness raising mode. The window of opportunity had somehow shifted from an STO mode of opportunity to one of STS opportunism. The STS power mongers don't take kindly to one of "theirs" (as they seem to think we belong to them) pulling away from their frequency rate range, and they definitely don't take kindly to knowing a group of souls (say the "Wanderer" FRE) is gaining FRE refinement. While I may not like it, I can see why they'd do everything within their power to contain said FRE, we're a juicy bunch... we're all of that and a bag of chips, even if the bag of chips (FRE) is in energetic latency waiting to be expressed... just being "all that" is enough to alarm hyperdimensionals. This, I will write again, is why the attainment of knowledge (awareness of ourselves and our environment) is the very most important thing we can do for ourselves, as individuals and as part of a soul group/FRE. I know I'm responsible for the outcome that will be my future, whether density realm shifts are only metaphorical or a real probability. Whatever my next moment may be it'll be a product of my awareness.
And ya know what? I'd like to just take a moment here to be my ole sappy self
.
I want to express a heartfelt thank you to all of you who have chosen to walk the path of knowledge and energetic refinement, regardless of the near constant barrage of containment efforts by others... no matter if that "other" is a 4D STS hyperdimensional, the NWO... or our partners, or parents, or siblings, or those tweedle-brained neighbors who get on our last nerve. I've noticed on this board that we may get bummed or out of sorts with what we see happening around us in our immediate environment, and with some of those others we personally have to intermingle with just to survive (like employers), but it's my observation that this doesn't deter the mainstay of this group from working our way through all of it, and eventually moving forward. In fact, I consider that it is in its greatest part because of what we see around us in 3D Land that we're driven to scoot on outta here whether it's through 4D, 5D, or 6D.... heehee, I've yet to, in any capacity, converse with a fellow Wanderer or any other energy worker, or any other person for that matter, who has said, "Man-oh-man, I can't wait to come back here and do this again." Never, ever have I heard that one
.
I don't think many of us very often hear "Thank you very much for your effort, where would the rest of us be without your awareness?"
So here's a big ole
and a "Namaste" zoom-zoomin everybody's way, you/we deserve this loving and respectful gratitude among ourselves.
Personally, even through the difficult times and how it may sometimes not appear so, I think we're doing a helluva job with refinition! And if my intuition has been correct at times in the past two years, so do the STO "they"... well, maybe there was a time when they thought it was touch and go before then, but I have every indication that we're doing more touching-on than going-from an FRE density realm transition scenario/probability.
Peaciously,
Violette
Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.
