46 (edited by Auendove 2005-05-11 07:32:30)

Re: From Jazzpen to Shanjuran vis Eagle Red

wandering1 wrote:

Do you feel like sharing more of what you know about the sun?

What about the Central Sun Jazzpen, any info about the Central Sun?

I very much wanted to ask this question last night, but the unstable nature of the thread held me off. But you know what? I really want to know more about the subject matter.

This that you've posted Jazzpen is provocative, but it's been delivered even more provocatively. I'm cued to read more of what you may have to offer, but please--

Jazzpen wrote:

Your attempt to trivalise this message is simply telling the world that each of you have chosen Predator reality over Human reality.

--check the judgement at the door, okay? Only a handful of people have responded to your posts (some with reason-able questions), some are just talking amongst themselves on this thread... just relax and share Jazz, there's just not much room on NR for "high horses".

No offense intended in any of that Jazzpen, NR has many a big personality and strong-willed character on board, I myself am in possession of a big ole "steed" big_smile , but for the sake of the e-community fluidity here we really need to rein that in before we log on, at least if we plan on communicating with any efficacy we need to wink .

I am indeed hoping to read more about the sun from your perspective/intuition, and especially about the Central Sun if you know of anything about that subject.

cool

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

47 (edited by UnbiddenTruth 2005-05-11 07:47:51)

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Interestingly enough, i've been experiencing serious.. changes lately, as I posted in the spirituality forum. one of those changes included something that was litterally eating me alive being ripped from my body (it left what look like teeth holes in my left leg, right on the bone, in the marrow, which is finally starting to heal) And i have seen people with large patches of their body 'eaten away' that no one else seemed to be able to see, and even then only for a moment.

I'd love to talk to you Jazz one on one if you would be willing to contact me (my computer settings won't allow a direct email from the link on the web board, so I can't initiate that way)

I also have a non-specious perspective, and amongst that, I don't believe in any 'one race' as purely existant, as the chili peppers put it, mix it up until there are no pedagrees" and this is what I see happening in one way or another, no matter what one group or another seems to believe in and of itself. I have learned much from many beings, some of which are more than likely what people seem to refer to as reptiles, I have experienced forms of telepathy, but I also have since I was born had a righteous anger and hatred of abuse of life in any form or capasity, and it's become a very very difficult existance as of late because of this. I don't know or don't care what I may or may not be, but frankly,  care about this world, and all life in it. All of it. That does not abuse, rape, destroy life and it's evolutionary process. MY OWN evolutionary process has been f*cked with for 23 years, so whatever I might be, I feel more human now than I think I ever have.

So please, anyone who is directly aware of these things that can share info, please contact me in some form. I understand that more pertinant and private information is easier to share outside of a forum, and really, I need some direct congnative interaction right now to help figure all my shit out, and it's very very very difficult for me to find that in my local area as everyone I know is very busy with their careers/college, whatever right now. I myself can live cheaply and am trying to get by without getting to far out in the open (as people in charge who display those traits that I have a passionate distrust and dislike for tend to make it difficult for me to fit in properly in a larger work environment, at least to my satisfaction, and tends to drain me more than I'm able to deal with and turns me into a very bitter and angry person that I don't like to be, so I'm trying to find any way I can to survive without all that.)

Anyway, take care, please contact me directly Jazz, ii've already been told I should do that by others who saw my post in spirituality.

Take Care and Be Well.

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FAO Impatiens, sorry i have added the link to my above posting.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Hi jazzpen i am glad you have expanded on your view with more information.
i would like to know why it seems so important to focus on the physical sun rather than our connection to source within (our sun within) as this goes against my gut feelings.
I am not disagreeing with you but  when i focus on my heart producing the infinate love and light that created all, from within itself it seems no outside entity can affect me as i am connecting to the source of all from within which is pure. The outside world is only a refelection of what is within itself.
I wonder if you can give some information on this aspect of your thread.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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hi jazzpen,

very interesting words, to say the least.

but one part stuck out as sounding like a lie:

The other varieties of predators have not been informed.

i would doubt this, considering the telepathic network that seems to exist in higher beings and all that... not to mention time travel....

not trying to put you down, but rather trying to point out things.

regards,
z

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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Thanks for finally revealing your sources, Jazzpen. Interesting scenario, one that was hinted in the movie "V" with a few of the reptilians being fifth columnists. I guess the only concern I have is this: the heavy doom element combined with your talk about being a bloodline descendant of one of the original survivors, did that last part also come from the reptilians you communicated with? If so then there's a potential fingerprint of manipulation there...

I've come across variations of the same theme elsewhere, for example Archangel Michael coming to a woman and telling her she's an Angel Lulilala or something, and he needs her full cooperation (submission) in the battle against evil, or perhaps the grays coming to an abductee and saying they have a soul kinship and the person has been chosen to warn humanity against its own demise. You can read in the Ra Material how doom figures prominently in the disinformation tactics used by the Orion Crusaders (reptilians), designed to induce feelings of despair and hopelessness and thus get the person to restrain his/her own freewill and spiritual light or else divert their sense of mission toward a distraction.

If you've considered this possibility and know it is not so, then okay. Just wanted to bring it up for discussion.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

52 (edited by GibbleTronic 2005-05-11 11:49:51)

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montalk wrote:

Thanks for finally revealing your sources, Jazzpen. Interesting scenario, one that was hinted in the movie "V" with a few of the reptilians being fifth columnists. I guess the only concern I have is this: the heavy doom element combined with your talk about being a bloodline descendant of one of the original survivors, did that last part also come from the reptilians you communicated with? If so then there's a potential fingerprint of manipulation there...

I've come across variations of the same theme elsewhere, for example Archangel Michael coming to a woman and telling her she's an Angel Lulilala or something, and he needs her full cooperation (submission) in the battle against evil, or perhaps the grays coming to an abductee and saying they have a soul kinship and the person has been chosen to warn humanity against its own demise. You can read in the Ra Material how doom figures prominently in the disinformation tactics used by the Orion Crusaders (reptilians), designed to induce feelings of despair and hopelessness and thus get the person to restrain his/her own freewill and spiritual light or else divert their sense of mission toward a distraction.

If you've considered this possibility and know it is not so, then okay. Just wanted to bring it up for discussion.

This was something I felt when I first read this post.

I had my experience, (something for another thread entirely or PM) I seriously considered that I was being used by someone else. The information I received was so intense, profound, enlightening, and disturbing that I wasn't entirely sure of my sanity for quite some time. It took me about three years of literally sleepwalking through life before I could trust that all the ideas in my head were my own, and that I could move forward towards other goals in life.

The real difficulty for me was because when I had my experience it was 10 years ago, and everyone I knew seemed to collectively indicate that no such experience could have possibly happened, much less to someone like me, and that is when I knew that I was on to something serious. Over time, the intensity of the experience has faded, despite my self-imposed mental compulsions to remember it, but I've also gained a better perspective over what it all meant.

What I realized is that I was granted a vision of what humanity will eventually become, and it is an image that fills me with joy and hope in this world, which really helps because it seems to counterbalance the occasional void. Upon reflection, I know that some of the ideas that I was initially presented with were infleunced by STS entities shortly after the experience ended. Where I began to heal was in understanding that some goals are truly transcendent, and some ideas are so pure that while it is impossible to even think otherwise, it is important to remember that the real plans were made a long time ago and it isn't always a good idea to assume that you know everything there is to know about it all and tamper with it, that sometimes the best thing to do is to consider the value of action vs. inaction and do nothing except observe.

The real key for me was to discern what MY role was in all of it, and what I eventually figured out was that there was nothing that I could do other than what I'm doing right now. I realized that my vision of UNIVERSAL LOVE CONSCIOUSNESS/UNITY will be accomplished within the STO parameters, and for me this is absolutely indisputable since I've already seen it. One of many angles that the STS entities tried to use against me was an implication that my knowledge and ability made me especially suited to spread the good news, and that I should devote myself to serving it exclusively. The funny thing is that it's now clearly apparent that my ability to seperate true virtue is quite pitiful when compared to the structures that are already in place, and that any attempt to tamper with the process was not only self-defeating, but incredibly presumptuous! Nowdays I like to say that sometimes the path finds you, so if it does, all you need to do is be able to do then is walk along it. Not everyone can see the path, but those who can do have ways to recognize eachother.

I think that it's better to unfold a potent message slowly, making sure that you truly understand what is being sent, and to remember that others of (same/different) (mindsets/backgrounds) can provide insight into what something may really mean. Occasionally someone will come out of left field with something you never considered and this alone should make you aware that it isn't all about you. I've also found that most of the unadulterated truth usually has the potential to be ego-busting at the same time! I'm fortunate since my nature automatically treats with caution anything that insinuates some sort of emergency, for obvious reasons.

As for the STS, nothing must give them greater delight than knowing that someone's doing their job for them, as it's an efficient use of resources, and it only leaves to them the option of when to reveal it to them - usually in the end. Spreading fear over ideas is an old trick used by frightened people wanting to control you with their own shortcomings. The fear they generate may be real to them, but it's not universal, and the real question which I always propose to them is if forced conversion and worship exalts their God. If it does, then it's not any god that I'm interested in getting to know better.

53 (edited by montalk 2005-05-11 13:24:36)

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Thanks for sharing your insights, Gibbletronic. Your post reminded me of a very important concept to ponder: if there are probable futures with beings originating from each, beings who are interacting with us in our present timeline, then not only is our personal future somewhat open but these beings will encourage us to manifest for ourselves the very future they come from.

This was another reason why spiritual disinformation often incorporates the doom element, since it gives you a feeling of fear and most of all inevitability which, in the hyperdimensional sense, attracts and locks you into that probable future.  Not to say all doom is disinformation, but that we should watch out for that possibility. Some things are fated, some things are not.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

54 (edited by Jazzpen 2005-05-12 16:36:44)

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Freeme,
             Hi freeme.

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Auendove,
                Thank you. Point taken. I will be happy to say more on the sun later on but for now the essential message is to begin looking at the sun in a new light. Much, if not all, the data out there on the sun is erroneous and quite frankly nothing is going to be gained by picking away at it. The sun itself will reveal all you wish to know and I will never stop stressing that. We must re-aquaint ourselves with the sun which can only be done through atuning ourselves to the sun's vibrations. This is accomplished via the heart, not the mind. Those who have allowed their hearts to be controlled by the mind will find this difficult but believe me it is the only way.

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Unbidden Truth,
                         I know that these are difficult times for everyone, and more so for some than others. You are grappling with these difficulties because one part of you instinctively rejects Predator reality while the programmed part  controls how you live. In time you will replace the program with a picture of what Human reality actually is and you will work with us to bring that picture to life. So fear not, we are on our way, and welcome.

57 (edited by Jazzpen 2005-05-11 18:43:17)

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Barefoot Doc,
                     It is a matter of aligning the inner with the outer. Its of little purpose if you shine on the inside but not on the outside. That would be akin to keeping all your potential to love to yourself.

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Hi zonabi,
               I only know that the Reptilians have no great love for the other Predators.

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Montalk,
             You are very astute to make the possible connection with Reptilians who may be manipulating me. I am balancing time-lines on various dimensions in making this effort to get this message out. Some of my Ancestors speak to me through the Reptilians because in a sense, on another level of existance, they were merged into Reptilian consciousness when they were eaten. Then there are my Ancestors from further back who exist on yet another level of existance who are very loving and knowing. Then there is the onging telepathic 'chatter' of many Beings, some human, who are trying to connect with me.

  There is ample scope for manipulation, I am aware of this. I 'escape', and I often do, by atuning myself into the vibrations of the sun. Here, I am free to assess and evaluate what is happening. I believe, regardless of what some Reptilians, and maybe other Predators might think, that I have the upper hand. Of course they will attempt to manipulate proceedings. That is their nature.

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Gibble Tronic,
                      So you didn't come up to 'scratch' and now you don't want to play second fiddle, to your way of thinking. It is your free choice.