Mind Control Victims and Alien Abductees, read this (Page 1 of 2)

Wow! Haven what a great find! Thank you very much for posting it here. I will be studying this information and seeing how to put it to practical use.

It's one thing to be aware of possible programming/abductions within myself or others, but rarely is seen a way to remove such without emptying one's bank account.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

Bhang,
I have not read the whole post in the link, but I will say that I get an authentic feeling from what you write.

That must have been a powerful experience to see a UFO and then have dreams that strongly suggest abduction. 

I'm glad that you've started to post here.

I get the feeling of someone who knows his shit and is tired of taking any more shit.

I wish you all the best.  I'm aiming to figure out what the heck is happening on this planet and also do a bit to anchor it in a positive direction.

I think that there is a great deal of evidence to suggest that what is happening is hugely different from the "news" fed to us by the mainstream media.  This same "news" is what a  lot of people seem to use as a primary measure of reality.

wynderer, I agree that my previous post was cryptic.  I was trying to be supportive and could not quite find all the words and ideas that I usually have.  So here are some additional thoughts.

I agree.  Why should we not be able to talk about such things?  They certainly seem significant and interesting.  Perhaps they are "too" significant.   I can think of several other reasons for why it can be a challenge to bring up these topics and these are just a couple among many possible reasons.

One possibility is that there is some sort of overt or covert "mind control" operating.  There have been images in the media over the decades that may provide the first impression that people who talk about such things or have such experiences are unbalanced.

Another possibility is that the whole topic is UFOs and alien encounters is such as disruptive force to a conventional self-image and societal self-image.  What, we are not the only intelligent life in the universe?  We are not the pinnacle of God's creation?  (I like that one!  Such arrogance!!)  Who are they?  Where do they come from?  What do they look like?  What kind of technology do they have?  Are they here to help us or hurt us?  What dimension or density are they from?  What does the government know?  There are so many potentially destabilizing questions that the whole area can be like an attack upon a conventional view of the world.

In many ways, we identify with our world-views, so a disruption to a world-view can be perceived as a direct attack, even if it is not intended in that way.

With regard to the density/dimension issue, a common question that people ask is: "What planet are they from?"  "How far away is that planet?"

Well maybe they're on this planet and they have been for a long time.  Maybe so long that some of them consider this their home planet just as we consider this our home planet.   Maybe they are right here, it's just that they generally operate on a different frequency.  That takes care of the need to travel millions of light years through space.

Lyra,
Thank you for sharing your experience.  It seems to me that sharing such a story requires courage.

Every day that passes i come to realize that mind controlling people is easier and easier....

I have to say the stuff on his website is the really simple stuff. Even though none of it is real magic there's a hell of a lot more to this guy than simple parlour tricks.

I nearly wrote about Derren several months ago when he had a one-off special where he went to America where he's a complete unknown and so he could pretend to be anyone he wanted. He approached various experts within a number of religious & newage fields such as psychic powers, ufology, mediumship, and went on to convince them that he had certain powers, and also got them to endorse him.

The program was essentially on the nature of belief and why we believe the things we do.

For me the most incredible section of the programme was where he met up with a Christian evangelist (on Long Island I think) and convinced the guy that since he had been struck by lightning several months back he had the power to convert people to believing in God just by touching them.

To 'prove' his ability he got the priest to organise a free lecture that was aimed at people who were either athiest or agnostic, and I think about a dozen or more people turned up. To cut a long story short, by the end of the session he had them all believing in God (or at least the ones that stayed because many freaked out and left half way through the session). At the end of that segment some text came up on the screen that said something to the effect of "At the end of the session all participants were deprogrammed and left the meeting with the same beliefs as they walked in with".

Anyway you can read a bit more about this programme at the following links.

http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsi … brown.html
http://www.opensourcetheology.net/node/532

At first I didn't think much of this train of thought, until I remembered "Saddleback Valley Community College" in Mission Viejo, CA.   Any SoCal people present on the forum who know what I'm talking about?     This place has such a weird architectural style, kind of fortress-like in some ways.     Just weird.  ESPECIALLY the library.   Someone else I know commnented on the library as well, noting that they felt uncomfortable there....and this was a guy who always tried to portray a tough, nonchalent, indifferent, skeptical mindset.  But it even made HIM feel uneasy.   It's just a weird fricking place, there's really no other way to describe it.     The library is this large, mostly windowless almost fortress-like imposing building, and there are these stairs situated in the middle of the building that wind their way down.  "Squared" spiral stairs, if that makes sense.   Down to the windowless lower levels.   

I'm not doing a very good job at conveying the set up or look of this campus, but in retrospect, it would absolutely be IDEAL for "housing" people in a lockdown situation.   It could easily double for that.   It just looks so thick and chunky, like it was designed to sustain explosions and who knows what.

I might be inclined to dismiss it as just being "earthquake proof" due to its location in Southern California, except..............there was another college in downtown Fort Lauderdale that made me frown as well.  Everytime I'd pass by it I'd shudder and be thankful I didn't have to go THERE.    Barely any windows, and whatever "windows" they had were slits. It looked like a prison in many ways, as well as being heavy duty and sturdy, conveying the presense of being bullet and bomb-proof. 

Banks are another one as well.   Same type of windowless, fortress-like chunky thick architecture.  Tom and I noted some weird bank buildings in our travels.   He's the one who first pointed out the possible double usage for such buildings.   Anyway, not to get all off subject, but I think you're on to something Sedna, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this..........