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Topic: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

That's something I wondered 3 years ago actually when I lived there for 4 months....lotta weird stuff slipping through the cracks up there in No Man's Land where 95% of the state is empty and so anything goes.    It's like they're in their own little world up there in that corner of the country, and the rest of the country doesn't notice what's going down.    I boldly stated 3 years ago that Oregon was a testing grounds of sorts, a place to see how far things can be pushed.   I could totally see what the deal was even after only 4 months of being there, and as interesting as Portland was, I would never live there.   Rampant alcoholism, unemployment and conspiracy, galore.   And people that smell like mildew wherever you go because it rains 364 days a year, but I guess that's another topic.   wink     Think about it though..................who ever thinks about Oregon ??   Nobody!  It's like the forgotten state.   Even California ignores it.   Washington and Seattle get 1000 times more attention than that invisible barrier called Oregon located in between.

The lastest eye brow raiser going on in good ol' Oregon appeared on Rense today.  States Ponder Taxing Drivers By The Mile."  Yes!    You read that correctly!    From the state which deems it against the law to pump your own gasoline, now, they want to try to push the envelope further and tax you for every mile that you drive.

Unfrickingbelievable.    I'm just so glad I don't live there.  Check out the beginning of the article, (bolded words / paragraphs are my own emphasis), and click on the link to read more if you're interested:



CORVALLIS, Or -- College student Jayson Just commutes an odometer-spinning 2,000 miles a month. As CBS News Correspondent Sandra Hughes reports, his monthly gas bill once topped his car payment.

"I was paying about $500 a month," says Just.

So Just bought a fuel efficient hybrid and said goodbye to his gas-guzzling BMW.

And what kind of mileage does he get?

"The EPA estimate is 60 in the city, 51 on the highway," says Just.

And that saves him almost $300 a month in gas.   It's great for Just but bad for the roads he's driving on, because he also pays a lot less in gasoline taxes which fund highway projects and road repairs. As more and more hybrids hit the road, cash-strapped states are warning of rough roads ahead.

Officials in car-clogged California are so worried they may be considering a replacement for the gas tax altogether, replacing it with something called "tax by the mile."

Seeing tax dollars dwindling, neighboring Oregon has already started road testing the idea.

"Drivers will get charged for how many miles they use the roads, and it's as simple as that," says engineer David Kim.

Kim and his team at Or  egon State University equipped a test car with a global positioning device to keep track of its mileage. Eventually, every car would need one.

"So, if you drive 10 miles you will pay a certain fee which will be, let's say, one tenth of what someone pays if they drive 100 miles," says Kim.

The new tax would be charged each time you fill up. A computer inside the gas pump would communicate with your car's odometer to calculate how much you owe.

The system could also track how often you drive during rush hour and charge higher fees to discourage peak use.    That's an idea that could break the bottleneck on California's freeways....


http://rense.com/general63/drivers.htm

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I don't get riled up too often anymore by news stories, because so much of it is nonsense that we can do nothing about, but this.......................THIS is something people can do something about. 

Oregon is just seriously in its own world.  It's NUTS.   For those who don't know, it really and truly is against the law to pump your own gas up there.   When I curiously asked a gas station attendent why, he said matter-of-factly, "It creates jobs, ma'am."     Well alrighty then!   I gave him a $5 tip and drove away, mystified.   Welcome to Oregon!   2 miles down the road, just outside of Eugene, I was pulled over at one of Oregon's infamous Speed Traps, where the highway speed limit drops 30 mph within a half mile, and if you don't catch it in time they have cops parked along the side, just waitin' to bust your ass.............Why?........It generates revenue.    But they're so damn FRIENDLY about it that you can't get mad at them!   As the cop ripped the ticket from the pad, he smiled and wished me a sincere welcome to Oregon and a safe trip up to Portland.   

Once in Portland, my next 4 months was a whirl of mysterious weather manipulating aircraft whipping around for hours and hours a day, creating cloud cover and ruining a clear day.   The mysterious pulsating "hum" every night, which you can hear when you press your ear to the floor, wall or ground.    Draconian laws that are just plain "not fair", but, good luck doing anything about them.   Don't get busted for ANYTHING is all I can warn.   25 years automatically for stupid infractions, if I remember correctly.  I'll pull out my newspaper clippings to double check.    Rampant unemployment and alcoholism - I've never seen a city with such downtrodden, destitute people in all my life.    It's like the people are PROGRAMMED to fail and be downtrodden, I don't know what it is.   There was MASSIVE chemtrails going on up there too, although now, 3 years later, that's pretty much commonplace in so many cities and suburbs around the country.   Every year at the end of the year, The Oregonian newspaper runs their "Portland Murder Map" thing, which is a map of the Portland area, with numbered dots marked on it to indicate where all the murders took place that year.   A  paragraph length blurb corresponds to each number, giving grisley background details on each murder.     I clipped and saved this little tidbit too because NOBODY believes me when I tell them this.   It's seriously one of those things that people have to see to believe.   

Then after I left, I remember reading on Rense in 2002 about some peaceful gathering that happened in downtown Portland by the Courthouse, and the local Fuzz got crazy on everybody and were spraying the crowd with Mace and beating people with batons.   Wasn't surprised.   Read something else on another messageboard forum about some crazy policy that was being implemented in some school up there.......God I wish I could remember what it was, it was just nuts.   Wasn't surprised by that either when I heard about.   Sounds like Portland!   Ever the testing grounds for pushing the envelope!  Now they want to "test drive" the idea of charging people by the mile.

I could go on, but, you get the idea.   And I'm not even getting into the cultural "conspiracies", like the "Shims"...........She-Hims!    You don't know what gender they are!   It's a mystery!   And they're EVERYWHERE up there!    They all wear the same Elvis Costello black framed glasses and have the same short brown black hair 'dos, and have the same pale white baby smoothe skin....but slightly squared face and layers and layers of body disguising clothes....sooooo.....could be a guy....but it might be a girl!    Who knows!  It's a Shim!  (a fellow coworker buddy in portland from SoCal coined the term Shim, I didn't come up with that on my own...)

It's a very odd and unusual city, lots of oddness, all around.  Took 10 rolls of pictures, and clipped stuff from "The Oregonian" newspaper for evidence.     I was just absolutely FASCINATED by that place.   Would LOVE to hear anybody else's feedback about stuff they may have noticed while up in Oregon, anybody who's lived there, or visited, no matter how seemingly trivial.

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Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

I live in New Jersey where it's also illegal to pump your own gas.  So I always make sure to do it.  It really drives some of the attendants crazy.  They actually get upset about it as if you're stepping on their toes. 

Since NJ has so many toll-booths, I've always thought that it would be a good idea to simply allocate all gasoline tax revenues to roads only, that way people would end up paying their fair share for highway upkeep.  Simple, unintrusive.  However, that's not the way it's done.  All tax money goes into the general coffers to be reallocated at the whim of the politicians of the day. 

This article you posted actually starts by mentioning some individual who bought a fuel-efficient hybrid -- something almost nobody does -- to set up the reader at the very beginning to believe that a gasoline tax could not work.  Classic psychological manipulation.  There is no other reason the writer would have gone out of their way to mention that.  They were using it as a straw man to establish a real need for mandatory GPS tracking of all vehicles.

And, since "driving is a privelege, not a right," you know they will get away with this.  By simply placing all sorts of conditions upon the driving privelege, the government can get away with imposng what would otherwise be unacceptablly restrictive rules on the citizenry.   The only REAL justification for this is so they have one more way to track you every minute of your life.  Cellphone GPS obviously isn't enough, they want multiple systems.   

One day in the very near future an alarm in the police cars will go off as soon as you drive by them if you have any warrants or other problems to be taken care of.  They won't even have to go through the hassle of running your license plate.  It will all be automated.

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Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

"So, if you drive 10 miles you will pay a certain fee which will be, let's say, one tenth of what someone pays if they drive 100 miles," says Kim.

errr, duh?!!!
thats the stupidest official statement ive ever heard
"if you have 10 cents, thats, lets say, one tenth of 100 cents."

ugh... theyre gonna be charging for breathing air soon.

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Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Good god. Absolutely nuts. Pay by the mile. The heck with that !

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Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Hi all,

I remembered that I can do a search on the Rense archives to locate other unusual stories about stuff going on up in Oregon, and weird bills and laws that have been proposed.   I found a few, will update as I find more:

"Sinister Oregon Plan Underway to Control Children and Families"
http://www.rense.com/political/oregonfam.htm

"Oregon Law Would Jail War Protestors as Terrorists"
http://www.rense.com/general36/warpro.htm

"Oregon Bill Could Give Life in Prison to War Protestors"
http://www.rense.com/general36/pce.htm

"Oregon Genetically Engineered Food Label Bid Fails"
http://www.rense.com/general31/food.htm

"Fascism For the Children"
http://www.rense.com/general45/facs.htm

"Tyranny in America:  Why I Won't Fly"
http://www.rense.com/general32/wontfly.htm

Disturbing Evidence Lotterys Are Rigged in Advance"
http://www.rense.com/general2/lottery.htm

NOTE:   THIS particular story is right up my alley, and SO reminds me of the kind of weird stuff my brother was always noticing.  He was forever coming to me with really off the wall things he was noticing, both in California but mainly in Oregon,  because it was pretty much his hobby to poke around, investigate and explore while everybody else was sleepwalking through life with their eyes glued shut.   So this just reminds me of something he would have come to me about, "Carissa!  I saw the winning lottery numbers in the newspaper last week."  And I would have nodded my head and gone, "Okay Joe.  Sure.   Where's the proof?"   To which he wouldn't have any, but I'd just have to take his word for it that he saw it or it happened.  wink  big_smile    He once claimed to be watching an LA Lakers basketball game on TV over a buddy's house in SoCal and that they announced the score............in advance.   I don't know bball terminology, but at the end of one of the "rounds" or whatever they call it, the announcers announced the score and it was the wrong score...but it ended up being the score for the NEXT round.   From that point forward he never followed professional basketball again because he saw it was rigged.  Kinda like this above story about the Oregon lottery...   



And regarding the unusually high amount of Chemtrail activity I noted in my opening post, I found quite a few stories from Portland residents which collaborated what I'd seen:

"Skeptic Watches Chemtrail Assault on Portland"
http://www.rense.com/general2/skep.htm

"Mass Chemtrail Spraying in Oregon and N. California - Many Report Illness" (Part 1)
http://www.rense.com/general/mass.htm

And Part 2:

http://www.rense.com/general/cont2.htm

Extreme Chemtrail Spraying Reported Over Portland"
http://www.rense.com/general21/extremechemtrail.htm

"Chemtrails:  Sick in Sprague River"
http://www.rense.com/general20/sp.htm

Chemtrail Spraying Over Portland
http://www.rense.com/general/cont.htm

"Chemtrail Planes Photographed at Portland Facility"
http://www.rense.com/general4/cmpln.htm



And let's not forget........Jeff Rense himself is from Oregon.  wink    big_smile


When I did the search on the Rense site, there were literally pages worth of hits that came up regarding the mass amount of UFO sightings going on up there, and in the Northwest in general.  I didn't even bother to post them, because I'm more concerned about the actual conspiracy angle to life in Portland.  The UFO's thing forms the backdrop to the day-to-day conspiracies that run rampant.

And again, emphasizing the day to day life thing which includes rampant alcoholism and grocery store shelves that are completely cleaned out of most alcohol -- in fact --right after I first got to Portland I was sitting in my car at a red light and looked over and saw what looked like a homeless woman pushing a shopping cart filled to the brim with 6 and 12 packs of alcohol. I did not have a camera on me, but it was that incident which caused me to NEVER be without a camera at all times while in Portland.   I vowed to never miss another photo op like that again while there.    Let's see....Rampant unemployment and high welfare, (at one point several years, Oregon had the nation's highest unemployment rate) and just weird things in general.........like groups of people who live in tents.   "Tent Cities" you could call them.   Roads that are in absolute disrepair............it was seriously one of the FIRST things my brother warned me about when I got up to Portland.   "Watch out for the potholes when you're driving!!  They're everywhere!"   He wasn't kidding.    A typical drive around Portland to run errands and do shopping involves swerving around many a pothole.   They were some of the worst roads I've driven on.   Apprantly there's no money to fix the roads.     (???)    There's the downtrodden people I mentioned, moping about like defeated zombies.    So many dirt poor people up there.   Oregon is one of the 8 states out of 50 who participates in aluminum can recycling...which is good!......but because Oregon is so dirt poor, this can recycling thing has literally, become an industry in itself!    Outside of the Fred Meyer store in North Portland, there are literally lines of people with huge BAGS of cans, waiting for their turn to shove them into the machine and get their coin reimbursement.    I took pictures of this, because I've just never seen anything like that, even in other states where I've lived which do recycling...like CA and CT.   People also openly pick through trash and dumpsters up in Portland, they don't care.   Have pictures of that too.  Was parked at a red light in Portland and a guy walked past the front of my car and over to the trash can on the street corner, ripped the lid off and just started going through it, right then and there, picking out stuff. Everybody's so downtrodden that it's just the norm there...long time residents don't bat an eye at that.   They've lived there so long I can only guess that they don't realize that it's not how it is in other places.   And then of course, there's the retarded laws and policies designed to generate revenue and extort as much money as possible from its citizens, instead of via normal routes such as industry and agriculture.   So I just don't understand this!    Portland is a large city -  Over 1 million people, complete with a skyline and all.  It's a real city, not a pseudo-city.   And Oregon itself is huge and sprawling and has everything going for it in terms of abdundant fertile land.  So why is Oregon such a collasal economic failure?!?!   Is there something I'm missing here??   ?!?!?   I can only conclude that there is a conspiracy going on up there to see if it's possible to keep as many people as possible living under the poverty line and even in outright squalor.    If they can do that in a state that has everything going for it, then they can do it ANYWHERE.   And all I can say is..........do NOT believe whatever the tourism literature says about Oregon.    While the nature around the city is certainly scenic, like the brochures will advertise,  there is something MAJORLY off going on within the urban centers themselves throughout the state.    Things are not right there.

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Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Kato...............!    I was so excited reading your post, you have NO idea!   So all I can say is, thank YOU!   There was SO much more that I didn't even mention about my experience in Oregon, so much that I saw, felt, experienced or was told about the place...............and which you TOTALLY confirmed in your post.    I can't believe it....Oh my god, I almost squealed reading your post, I'm serious.    I had to hold off on posting a response earlier, because I wanted to make sure your post was the last one here for a bit of time, to ensure that people would see it, because to me, it's important what you mentioned.   

Alright, let me address everything that jumped out at me from your post: (it's pretty much everything!  big_smile  )



Kato3 wrote:

....the rest felt so completely icky to me that I could not wait to get out of there. I have traveled all over and never wanted out of a place like that.

Okay......Let me tell ya about what happened to me the second I rolled into town.   Literally, from the first MOMENT of hitting the city of Portland on the 5 freeway -- DESPITE how excited I was about my trip, DESPITE how much I wanted to be there -- my first intuitive 6th sense reaction screamed at me "NO!"   And the vibe of the place bounced off of me, so to speak.    Completely incompatible.   

Up til that point I had NEVER experienced such a feeling in any city, ever.  Not even Los Angeles, which still has icky vibes to me, but not even close to what Portland eminated.   I would later feel this same vibe pouring off of New Orleans as I approached it from the 10 freeway.   New Orleans is actually worse.   Portland may be icky, but New Orleans is pure evil, demonic, and it so disappointed me because I was literally bursting with excitement at the prospect of spending a night there as I passed through on my way to Florida.  Ended up hitting the gas and racing past as fast as I could.   Approaching New Orleans made my body physically twitch, as if physically hitting a brick wall.  Very very bad. 

ANYway, and it wasn't anything about the way Portland looked that created this feeling...........it was strictly 6th sense intuition.  It literally recoiled and screamed "NO!"   But I forced myself onwards.

Found my brother's apartment, parked my car and went inside to see him.  He wasn't home at the moment so in the meantime I decided to go exploring the local neighborhood there in North Portland.  Grabbed my bag out of my car, locked the car and took off on foot.

oh.         my.            god.

To this day I have yet to experience what happened during the next 5 minutes.   I started walking down the sidewalk, looking up and around at everything, at the little beat up old stores, at the scenary, taking everything in.  The afternoon was very quiet, nothing going on, but yet I became aware of an uneasy feeling.   As I walked further along, the feeling grew, and grew, and grew, and became so overwhelming that I finally stopped right there in the middle of the sidewalk and turned in circles, trying to pinpoint what the hell was going on and where the feeling was coming from.   Around and around, frowning, looking at everything.    I couldn't pinpoint it.......because it was everywhere, all around me.  The entire place was wrong.  I cannot even explain to you what this felt like, because it's nothing I've ever felt before.

I panicked and literally, ran back to my car, unlocked it, jumped inside, grabbed my cat who was lying on the front seat and ducked down in the seat, clutching her, just totally freaked out.   The feeling was so overwhelming, that I just sat there, panicked, peaking out the windows, to see where my brother was.   Again, I've never experienced this before, and I'm not a scaredy cat type of person, I'm very tough and resilient.  Not prone to panic attacks!   So right then, my brother rolled up in his car, so I was relieved.   Put it all out of my mind, and pressed onwards and upwards with my new life in Portland.   


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  I had to constantly find my center, breath, focus and keep a mirrored egg around myself because there were so many low frequency beings. The hum of city was poverty and despair.  Yet it was mostly beautiful to look at.

YES!!!!!   There was so much fantastic architecture, so much beauty.....snow capped Mt. Hood, right there, every day!    Snow capped Mount St. Helens!   Cool buildings and stores!    Downtown 6th Avenue with its brick paver sidewalks and white Christmas lights in the trees that lined the streets!    All of it, mixed in with the most despondent desparate poverty and downtrodden zombies you will ever see, in any city.   What a contrast.   


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The friend we stayed with was in a deep depression, the area was a demon dimension bleed through. I do not know how else to describe it.

Okay.........you REALLY got me with this one.  At the risk of mentioning my good ol' brother, yet again.........this is EXACTLY THE SAME THING he told me about Portland upon my arrival.   That the entire city was one huge dimensional bleedthrough happening, and some parts are just SO bad that you don't go there.   Just don't even go near them.     There's more, but, that's the gist.   Holy cow, I'm just so shocked reading your words...!   How eery to see it confirmed.


BTW.....my cat was freaked out and very unhappy for most of the time we were there.   Anytime I tried to sit with her outside on the fire escape she would freak out.





Kato3 wrote:

  I also gave money to a man who was in so much pain I could not pass him by. He was afraid as I was approaching him, it was singular, he had the look and desperation of a drug addict way over do for a fix but there was something else to it.  I touched his hand as I put money in it and a surge of energy went into him, like when you do a healing and it flows through you to answer the call from within the recipient, but this was intense, instantaneous and momentary. I was not drained at all nor did anything come into my field. I heard within that he was trapped here from another dimension; I do not know how that could happen or what dimension he was from but I saw a planet in my minds eye as the message came that did not look like earth at all.

VERY interesting.   I don't doubt it, not after what I exerienced while there.



Kato3 wrote:

Needless to say, Portland is not in fear of becoming not weird anytime soon.

Well, as Montalk pointed out to me...........Portland = Portaland.   wink 




Kato3 wrote:

The material shared in the thread above makes so much sense of my experiences now, thank you!!!

No, like I said.............thank YOU!!!     Seriously, thanks for not being afraid to post your experiences, it's truly appreciated.   I was very excited to see what you had to report about your time there.


Other things I noted:

-  Seriously, the only people who seemed real out of the entire city were the black people.   They were the ONLY people with life and energy going on.   While all the whites moped about, dirty and smelly, looking and acting downtrodden, the blacks were always meticulously made up, hair, nails, jewlery, clothes, makeup, shoes, bag, perfume and they were always full of life.     While just about every white person there had absolutely NO vibe, and was blank and empty, the blacks in contrast seemed real and were all good looking and had it together.   

-  SO many people there hobbling around on crutches.....broken legs EVERYWHERE.   Have NEVER seen that many people on crutches in all my life.

-  Planes buzzing around and around and around overhead all day long.   One time they were already out before 6 am, buzzing around and around over our apartment, then I left and went to work.  However, coincidentally by 2 p.m. in the afternoon I was so sick at work with some mystery ailment that creeped up out of nowhere I had to leave and go home.  I never get sick, and I would never normally leave a temp job early like that, but I literally, had no choice.   Something was really seriously wrong with me, I couldn't stand up.    Just trying to stand I would become so dizzy that I would start to fall over.   It wasn't normal dizziness though, it's something I can't explain, because again, I'd never experienced it before, only there in Portland.  I made it home after literally falling into my seat on the bus and nodding off periodically on the way home, and then I was out of commission all night, curled up in bed...............listening as the planes continued buzzing in repetitive circles over the apartment for hours and hours.  No lie.

-  I don't ever get the flu either, but I got it while there in Portland.   After some massive chemtrail spraying which I photographed, two days later I developed the worst flu I've ever had.  It lasted 3 - 4 weeks.   So fully 1/3 of my stay in Portland was spent sick, when I never get sick.

Oh, there's so much more..........I could go on for days about this place.  It's just the most bizarre place I've ever been.   


Kato3 wrote:

Spiral out, keep going...

Well, that's my plan, anyway!    big_smile   I'm trying........every day I'm trying.........

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Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Kato3 wrote:

Wow Lyra,

I feel the same, what you shared was like a healing!

You have the most wonderful way about you. I was giggling,giddy even reading what you shared. I am so happy you shared more. I do so enjoy the way you write. It is delightfully effusive and almost softened the memory blow of the energy there.

(blushing!)   Well thanks....I'm glad somebody likes my posts!  haha  wink 



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  My very close friend lived there for two years, she is one of the most powerful beings I have ever met incarnate. I will not fill the forum here with her story but basically the reason we went to get her stuff is because I had to intervene to get her out of there. Portland did a number on her.  When she showed up at my house, I barley recognized her. It took over a month and steady hard core healings, detoxifying, long therapy sessions to ease her back. I have never seen anything like it.

Wow...yes, I don't doubt it after what I saw there.  Like I wrote, 1/3 of my time spent there I was sick.  I can only imagine had I stayed longer than 4 months.   I think it's no wonder that so many people look like zombies there.    I just don't know how anybody could live there permanently, long term.   Yet, there are plenty who do. I met people who had higher rung jobs and were higher up on the social ladder in life who seemed to be pleasant and personable, healthy and doing just fine.   In retrospect, it's surprising.  I wonder how they did it............Actually, I'm remembering my interactions with those people, (some at work, some while I was out and about running errands or just doing stuff) and they were all pleasant and mild and mellow to the point of seeming fake.  It was weird.   Very weird.   Just the most pleasant mellow bland people you could meet.  It's not a bad thing...it's just a little weird when you think about it.   Like they were all heavily sedated.   No "oomph!" to them.



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You were lucky to get out in a short time. I felt Donna was there to hold a balance somehow. She also lived in LA. I wonder if it is so with you too, or perhaps just intense training.

See....there you go again, saying things that I had been thinking myself!   smile    Yes, I had concluded that my time in Portland.....as well as the 2 years with my brother in my life.......was "training."   Very very intense, harcore training.    The situation with my brother was not a good one.   The 2 years with him in my life was a crash course training in the paranormal, other dimensional phenomenon, and military abductions.   Before I brought my brother out to CA to be with me I was just coming out of being an Atheist for 3 1/2 years.   That was the year 2000.  By 2001 I was an old pro at handling some very hardcore paranormal stuff, which I won't sidetrack about here, but it's stuff I've mentioned randomly here and there on this forum.  But by 2001...forget being an Atheist.   I couldn't imagine how I ever fell for that!    But yes, "training" would be the word for it.   We're only given what we can handle.  Someone thought I could handle it, and someone felt I needed to learn it, and that's why I've mentioned in passing here at Noble Realms that some of us are learning what can be considered 4th density lessons / training while here in 3rd.   


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I sure hope you love where you live now and that your brother is also cool.

I do love where I live now.........from the first moment we rolled into town here it had **the** best vibe of anyplace I've ever stepped foot, no lie.  I couldn't get over it.  I didn't know a place could feel so good.   It was just the most amazing feeling.   And no, my brother is not cool.  wink   But, story for another time!   big_smile 



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I wonder if New Orleans is that way because of all the black magic? It must seep into the land.

That's what I'm thinking.....



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Oh would it be okay if I send her what you wrote in regard to Portland? I think it would make her feel better.

By all means, go for it!  smile   I post to help in any way I can, so you never have to worry about asking, pass along anything you'd like.    I'd LOVE to hear what her feedback is, actually.   Could you keep me posted?

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Lyra, Kato3, et All,

What a fascinating, albeit creepy, read. I have nothing to say about Oregon, never been there. Still, though I've never had an experience like that with an entire city that I can recall, I can easily understand it. And, from your vivid descriptions, I can also picture it.

Want to comment on this, what y'all mentioned about being "in training". Struck a big chord with me. For the past few years I've felt like this. It's underlined by this notion: (a) that there is definitely a grand -mysterious- design at play here, a universal design or pattern of designs which I'm tuning into more frequently and faster; (b) while it's very turbulent, it's positive, and (c) that I have some "special" work/purpose to fulfill in this overall scheme. Not saying that I'm special in any way. I'm not. I'm as ordinary looking, acting, etc, as the next person. But, all my life I've been/felt decidedly "different". It's abundantly clear to me by now that I think differently. And, I see plenty in the universe as becoming more "serious", more "time critical" if you will. And without going into explanations, I see connections to everything everyone. More, faster, tighter. Weird, trez weird.

There's more. I can't quite explain it, but I do have this keen sense that I too am "in training", becoming prepared for something big and new?! Btw, I've long regarded life as a "training" opportunity; a sort of testing stage for the next life, whatever that means. But, this sense is strong and still I can't describe it. Dohhhh! And strangest of all for me is that I would normally feel impatient with this, but don't. Ok, maybe a little. :wink:

I know that this upside-down world is in dire need of being uprighted or something. And in spite of the widespread, perceptible ugliness & hatefulness which makes me sad/mad...I still feel hopeful. 

Maybe all this is just the cumulative effects of being more inquisitive than acquisitive throughout life. [thanks LightTouch, wherever you are] Who knows?

I hope I didn't boomerang/hijack this thread. My apologies if I have. Please let me know.

Also, pls let me know if you feel this way too. And if this is the wrong place for this, no problemo, I can easily edit/delete it upon request.

Am still a freshie in here, so why do I feel right at home? smile

Take care All,

imp (aka amj)

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Hi impatiens / annemariej!  smile  I'm really glad to see you here at NR, yet another former Etemenanki poster and yet another pleasant shock for me when I logged in!   I didn't actually think you'd show up!  So how did you find us?    Hope you like it here and find topics of interest.

And don't worry, you're not hijacking the thread at all.  It sort of reached a stalemate, with the topic more or less continuing off the board in emails, so reviving it is always a good thing.   Thanks for sharing your personal experiences, I think it's something many can definitely relate to.   


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It's underlined by this notion: (a) that there is definitely a grand -mysterious- design at play here, a universal design or pattern of designs which I'm tuning into more frequently and faster

Yeah, the Etemenanki site tends to do that to people, doesn't it?  smile  Seriously, that site has changed the way I look at the world, really sped up my awareness.   Not only noticing the big world wide patterns and symbolisms, but the small ones in our every day lives.   It really is "as above, so below", like a fractal.   So for that, I will always be grateful for being introduced to the site.   


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(b) while it's very turbulent, it's positive,

Yes...because it helps make us more aware maybe?   We're learning and growing, versus stagnating, asleep, and that's always a positive thing.....


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(c) that I have some "special" work/purpose to fulfill in this overall scheme. Not saying that I'm special in any way. I'm not. I'm as ordinary looking, acting, etc, as the next person. But, all my life I've been/felt decidedly "different". It's abundantly clear to me by now that I think differently. And, I see plenty in the universe as becoming more "serious", more "time critical" if you will. And without going into explanations, I see connections to everything everyone. More, faster, tighter. Weird, trez weird.

Well, you're definitely not alone here.  smile   I was nodding my head while reading your post, as others are too, I'm sure.   Thanks again for sharing your ideas.

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Warm welcomes, Impatiens.

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Heh. I registered because of this topic.

You see, I actually live in Portland. I think it's a beautiful city, and the best place I've ever lived. The air and water seems a lot cleaner than where I'm living now (New Haven, Connecticut). As far as I can tell, it's a pretty normal city, except that there's a few anachronistic parts, and well, I guess I'd just say the city has a lot of character. I guess there's really no reason for me to post here, except to vouch for Portland. I think in many ways, Portland sees itself as "eclectic" and "hip" and "weird" and takes pride in it. It's the social norm in Portland to sing the city's praises (and visitors usually come away doing the same, saying how everyone there is "so nice"). However, I think there's a lot of merit to it.

So, if you have any questions to ask an Oregonian and a Portlander, I might be able to field them.

I stumbled upon this website because I was microwaving a burrito that I still had wrapped in aluminum foil, and I knew there would be some arcing if I left the microwave on for too long (or just put the aluminum foil in without the food) and I was searching for some sites about the phenomenon. Instead, I found the article on the " How to Block Microwave Mind-Programming Signals". At first I thought it was a joke (the whole tin foil hat thing is the butt of many popular culture jokes), but heh, evidentally not.

I'm probably not going to frequent this website, but it's sort of interesting to hear from a perspective that's so far out of what I'm used to. I'll have it out now that I'm exceedingly skeptical about the information presented here, and it's not likely I'll change my mind. However, I see myself as a pretty nice and reasonable guy.

And I did read the topic by IlikeIcke, so, hah, I know your history with skeptics. tongue

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Hey pbng,

It's not skeptics that is a problem, it's inflexiblity. It's when the skeptic if presented with material/information even experiences they've not come in contact with before, don't allow the possibility that they don't know it all and need to change or expand their view but don't, that's when a problem arises.

Hope you enjoyed your burrito.

Peace,
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Hey pbng,

Well, you know, to each his own.   big_smile   I know that there's nice stuff about Portland - like I noted, it has amazing architecture and a really cool look in general.  (reminded me of the movie "Dark City").   Also, the people were the nicest people I've ever encountered, no doubt about it.   The view of snow capped Mt. Hood every morning from the office where I worked couldn't be beat.   And yes....the air was absolutely AMAZING.   Coming from Southern California where I'd lived for 10 years I didn't realize just how bad the air was there until I left.  Took about a month, then I remember thinking one day, "Boy, I feel different....what is it??"  Then I realized...it was the air.  It was actually *clean* !    Cool, crisp and clean.  My lungs felt better, I could literally breathe differently.     

But.............(and you know there's always a but wink  )   there was a lot of weirdness there too, which I've already mentioned so I don't want to bore anybody and mention it all over again.   Just weirdness galore....to me, anyway.   I have been curious though why the permanent residents of Portland don't seem to notice the weirdness that the visitors have noticed.   Not sure if you'll be back to the forum to answer this or not, but I thought I'd ask anyway, just in case.  I can theorize that maybe it's because they've been there so long, or haven't spent much time in other places to have a comparison.   You mentioned coming from New Haven CT..............I've been to New Haven, and all I can say is "ahh!!!"   So maybe that's why Portland didn't seem weird to you.     New Haven's got a bad vibe.    It's weird that such an old, historical city that houses Yale University could have so much crime and an icky vibe to it.   So yeah, seriously, of course Portland seems cool and normal compared to that.  But if you've spent any amount of time in really nice, pretty areas then Portland stands out like a sore thumb for all its weirdness and strange happenings.

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"Hugging Ban Sparks Dispute in Oregon School"


".....But Swanson, the mother, said she wonders if a hugging ban would fly in a more metropolitan place.

For her, this is a politically charged issue.

"The more people blindly accept these fundamental rights being taken away from them, the easier it becomes for them to be taken away," Swanson said....."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/hugging_ban


Now, what was I saying about Oregon being a testing grounds of sorts?  wink

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Hi lyra,

I just read what you said about Portland being weird and I second it. Don't get me wrong, I really like it there and am in fact moving there pretty soon. My half joking theory I came to while visiting is that everyone in Portland is just a little bit insane but doesn't know it. People have this glassy eyed kind of look. It feels like you're in a David Lynch movie or Dark City or something -- there's something you can't quite put your finger on. If you stay there too long maybe it becomes more like the movie Memento... "I know there something really important that I can't remember, what is it, what is it? *looks at tatoo* oh yeah -- never move to Seattle!" Whew, I almost forgot!