16 (edited by lyra 2004-11-29 13:07:43)

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morningsun76 wrote:

2) are able to detect people like yourself who may be more "in-tune," or freethinking, or having some true connection to the Spirit.  They will then, using their cover of "religious people," claim they can see that you have "Satanic influences."....#2 here I think is an important point though .. THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE in a fundamental spiritual way and can target you without you necessarily being aware of it.

Holy schmolies, you summed up my own situation, right there!  That was EXACTLY it.  There were those of us on the forum posting about the kinds of topics you'd find here at Noble Realms....abductions, ear ringings, metaphysical stuff that DIDN'T involve the Catholic Church and involved a more free thinking, liberating point of view.  Shiiiii-iiite............we were THE devil incarnate to these people.  Evil, Witches, demons...possessed, to hear them tell it.   If it weren't for the cool people who were highly responsive and thankful for those topics then I (and others) would have bailed out.  It was a constant barrage of names and attacks about how evil and demonic and Satanic we were. The ULTIMATE irony was that the very people claiming to be "Christian" were acting in the most UN Christian manner imaginable.  It was a travesty.  I had supporters emailing myself and others like me off the board saying exactly what you just wrote above. 


morningsun76 wrote:

Most of us probably guessed #1 ... when you listen to these programmed people, it's frightening and some of them truly do seem to be possessed.

Yup.  My ex-boyfriend's mom was a fringe Catholic nutter who was into the "speaking in tongues" thing.  She wasn't all there.  Had big empty "crazy eyes" as I call it.  Would corner people and barrage them with nonsense questions, or get all religous and nutty....similar to what 3.27.....et al smile wrote.     It's sad, but these people exist.  It's like, what the hell went wrong in their lives????  For me the intriguing question is, Why do they gravitate to Christianity, and oftentimes *Catholicism* in general?? Very interesting indeed.

Stay away, is the best advise.  Run for the hills.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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17 (edited by Kaybal 2004-11-29 13:47:06)

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They are probably Organic Portals, soulless, human-like "machines".

"The main functions of an OP are any or all of the following:
“¢ Steer you off course in life, derail you, and sabotage you
“¢ Sap your energy.
“¢ Keep you in line with the Matrix Control System."

For more information on these dangerous beings and how to deal with them:

Organic Portals:
http://www.montalk.net/matrix/60/organic-portals-part-i

Organic Portals - The "Other" Race:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/organic_portals.htm

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T-Ren wrote:

Out of curiosity, with the mention of the "Christ consciousness" on this site how many people have read the bible or after doing all the reading of The Ra material and the cassiopaeans etc, have gone back to read the bible and being able to read it in a different or with greater insight?

T-Ren,

From my own studies of spirituality and various religions, I think the quick and simple answer to this question is that there is an underlying theme to many different paths, and that is that there exists a Spirit force which is there to guide people who are willing to listen to it.  My experience is that it's always been there, in the back of my mind.  You're free to ignore it, which most people do to one extent or another..."many will be called, but few will answer."  It goes by various names and metaphors in different religions and ancient stories.  The bottom line, as far as I understand it, is that it exists within each of us, and if you get in tune with it and suborninate your reasoning, logical mind to IT, amazing things can happen.  Doing so for someone who has never considered the possibility before constitutes a leap of faith, so to speak. 

lyra wrote:

It's sad, but these people exist.  It's like, what the hell went wrong in their lives????  For me the intriguing question is, Why do they gravitate to Christianity,

Probably for the same reason the suicide bombers gravitate towards Islam .. because that's their base-layer programming which in most cases was done at an early age.   It's THEIR REALITY TUNNEL and, to a large extent, their "free will" choices might only exist within the confines of their religious training.  Maybe they'd open up a bit if we laced their punch with mushroom juice and locked them in a room for a few days with a Vedic guru or something, but failing that it's probably best to avoid those people unless you have a reason to be around them.  Their influence can't be too healthy for you.

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They remind me of the so-called "born again" Christians I mentioned on the o.p.
thread : they attack the very sincere seekers, know how to hone in on them, and accuse them of the very thing the seekers most abhor.they are the ones who are the very things they claim you are. This is  technique, and the best bet is to avoid them altogether, and don't relent until you fully extract yourself from their presences.
They are not what they claim to be. They are pretending. They care nothing for true Christianity, but are interested in taking an energy drink off of your negative emotions.

I agree that a truly God inspired message is always fear-free. It's calming or positively energizing, never filled with doubt or terror. I agree with Kaybal, that most of them are probably organic portals, and it would be best to deal with them skillfully component by component. Once you do, that particular hellish dispensation of hyper-D control will abate.

20 (edited by Moralman 2004-11-30 22:31:44)

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Dear Friends
kind regards
I agree with the statements on this thread that the solution is nearly always within us rather than another person.
Some people can be very sincere in helping you find the answers to your problems but even then you usually have to look within yourselves.
It states in the Bible that in some cases Jesus didn't heal people because they had no faith.
I assume therefore that healing is a two way street-the healer cannot heal a person if the person is not willing to receive.
However there may be cases few and far between.
The reason that I forwarded Stan Madraks website was because his articles state that you can take authority of demonic and evil entities within you.
I certainly think that you can because after all you are the Master of your own body and emotions.
I also believe that religion taught wrongly can be just as bad as demonic possession.
The suicide bombers are certainly demon possessed-only the demons who possess them are human Mullahs.
I think that demon possession is a case of being possessed into something outside of yourself that is blatantly corrupt.
I watch the TV Evangelist Benny Hinn on TBN and he proclains to cure lots of people yet he receives alot of criticism.
Here are two links about this.
1. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plai … page6.html
The website owner claims that he received an "evil spirit" from Benny Hinn ministries.
He also states that his sleep was haunted with foul nightmares and his body filled with unclean spirits.
2. http://fakefaithhealers.com/index.htm
This website exposes fraudualent practises of TV Evangelists and even Mother Theresa.
yours thankfully
John

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I'd suggest not watching TBN for starters...

Here's an alternative:
http://www.drgenescott.com/thearchives.htm

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Again, thanks for information guys.

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Hello 3,7,127,
Could you please notice (for your own clarification, not for me) the following things durring your interaction:

-how were you breathing (shallow? deep? slow, etc)
-what was your posture: contact with earth, feet relaxed? tense? knees? neck relaxed? tense? back straight or curved. head hanging heavily in the empty or aligned and supported lightly by the neck, eyes, relaxed? squinted? tense?...Look stuck on one spot or freely scanning the horison from time to time.
-your inner dialogue: you were relaxed inner silence? or a few words turning in loops? a defensive dialogue about the 'self'? judgements about yourself, light humour? etc..
-were you hungry, just normal?, eaten too much? did you have lots of coffees, or sugar, etc

888

i try to help put your attention on the elements listed above (posture, breath, inner silence/dialogue), contact with the earth, etc, because these elements are extremely crucial to how one FEELS at any time. Life is before all a feeling.

I am doing the same practical tasks of stalking my position (the things above) lately and am absolutely amazed at how a tense neck or an imbecilic loop inner dialogue can go ustopped and unexamined for hours andthus completely defining everything: our mood, our energy circultaion, our sense of humour and dettachment and even the circumstances that happed to pop-up around us.

When one has tracked ones, twice three times their position then they notice that the energy blocking/draining attitudes are repetitious in a routine and that they are not that many (but are persistent).

So now you've tracked and stalked yourself and you have a more or less clear picture of "what gets" you. The next strategic (warrior always strategic-and humour and delicateness/elegance--with these three you'll go very far:) step is to purposefully disrupt the routine when it appears. You don't go: "ok, there i go--perfect, straight, relaxed, deep slow breath, etc.." because somethings has "gotten" you and you may be just on your way to repeat the pattern and get tense and loose energy. So it is hard to fix all at once at such moments. What you do is you trickilly change only one element of the whole 'position'. I've learned that a habit needs only one of it's elements missing or slightly changed and it looses its force over you.This is to apply "not doing" (where "doing" is your usual reactions and routines. It can also be seen as Introducing an Element of Dissonance. Remember, a habit, a person (your perception of it), an idea, needs all of its elements to have power over you.

In this sense, Harry Potter is is not at all to be taken lightly: they were teaching kids to change an element of the whole in something or someone that scared them. Next thing they knew was a caricature that made them laugh.

In a missaligned tense posture ane may look/brush the horizon to look for advice there or to break tense eyes fixation, or may start to breath deeply on purpose (you can never worry and breath slowly and deeply in the same time, not possible), can moove frozn feet even among people and feel the earth, your imagination is the limit! You are magical being, it is syntactical commands and the "social order"that dictate you to stiffen but that's only when you forget that you can change things.

It may be mentioned also that it does not mean obvious "strange" behaviour or need for attention. It is your strategy to be free. Very important to my feeling is that one should never get disappointed by falure and should always advance in "small steps" at a time. Delicateness, elegance summon power and energy.

Concerning the "suggestions" by your two fellows in your story. Probably you should know that what we see is dictated by what description we uphold. If you may find yourself a little low on energy someone can come and force a descritption upon you (you have a beast, etc) and then it can make you perceive things or hook your energy into part of your body or an idea, etc.

Descriptions are like software--they can define how things function, what input triggers what reaction, etc. That's why in the MAtrix was emphasized that the residual self image is nothing but a description, a program. Religion is such a description too and it collect great great crops of guilt, docility and fear from time immemorial. The mind is the hard disk where they write the softawres, the descriotions of how things are, but then the rebels say Free Your Mind. The mind is freed through stopping mental loops (especially the ones that are worries for the "self"). Then if this is practiced regularly a delicious inner silence give place for different things to be perceived and to become guiding force.

They want us overfed with their syntax of the Cult of "Me". Then we get into inner dialogue, postures, no breath, judging, petty, stiff, sedated, stuck and this whole thing functions as a current in the sense that it renews in a chain reaction..Stopping the current from time to time. Introducing dissonance elements. Not doings of the self. Cahnging a routine on purpose. Small things, smiling to people lightly from time to time. Then you gain a little more energy, you React less to people and things that get you, and then something else starts to flow--another current--but this time it's a current of energy. And the other current is the so called "river of shit". You can recognise the river of shit flowing in you when everything around looks shitty, world, people, all. But then you are worrior and you are never disappointed and you act strategically. You take a pause. If one persist they say we never go back to the oozing wormth of the river of shit. And you are vibrant with energy:)

hope this can be of any use to anyone,
your fellow traveller

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nevers, your post creeps me out.

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3,7,

I'm curious as to what part of nevers' comment disturbed you, and why.

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Seems that 3,7 had an energy attack!!. Well, im not the first in notice it..... tongue.

Also, the so called "friends", instead of healing for that pain themselves released, they transpassed their bad energies to you, that´s why the desire of trowing up. Maybe.

U sould avoid those persons, or similar, they are psychical vampires.