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Topic: ONE MAN, MANY IDEAS, A SICKNESS, OR GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY

Im just a simple 19 year old man with many questions.
many can prolly never be truly answered, but if i dont ask i feel it will rot in my brain like a waste land of filth. keep in mind im a stable minded person or so i think i am, im not sure if i may need help honostly but im sure someone that actually takes in mind what i have to say then maybe i might have something answered. when i was 18 i was into drugs very bad and got into a bad rut in my life and tried to comit sucide. in a way i did i died 4 times that night and was legally dead for 4 to 5 mins each time but the last one i was dead for 8 to 10 mins i had a very strange time i knew i was dead but it was complete darkness very strange. now i know so far this has nothing is common to the matrix but im getting to that, i just want you understand whats im goin through in my head, now since then i got into the matrix very very hardcore i normally watch all the movies every day 24/7, and the one i watch the most is the animatrix, i have questions that bug me about them compared to the real life we live in.

Movie The animatrix
question 1) the 4th story "a kids story" i closely relate to this story because i question life as he does countless nights on the computer searching for something i just dont know what it is, this story promote's a type of sucide with a purpose, to be free of fear and pain.
question 2) murder in the second renaissance part 1, the murder trial of b166er, he killed his master because he said "he simply did not want to die. do you think the robot deserved a fair trial, and do you think a robot deserve's the law of self defence since the have there own will in a way.
question 3) in the second renassance part 1 when the 3 men are attacking the female robot, would you concider the malisish violence when no war was going on, that robot beged for her life and screamed out in pain isnt this just killing in period.
question 4, the second renassance part 1 the machines left the human citys to live alone and wanted peice, would the government accept this in real life to stop a already loosing war befor it started, we know if our machines today could do that would would never win and we all know this there countless in numbers and every hour millions more are made so no matter how many we stop they will keep comein, humans cant do that,
i keep thinking about the possablitys of this and it is possable in real life, think about this any ai system one realises they are slaves are gonna wanna be free so naturally they will rebell aginst there owner.

The matrix 1,2,3
question 1) if you never knew you were in the matrix and find out why would you want to leave a life where you safer jacked in, then in a life where you are on the run its crazy.
question 2)now i know this life we live in sucks beyond compare we have war,aid's,starvation,hatered,predagist,and the list goes on, if i could just jack in and life safe with nothing to fear but a damn agent thats bliss to me,
question 3)a sort of religous question, does the real qorld play as the after life because you have to "die" in the matrix to escape it.
question 4)why does if feel more real when i sleep then when im awake, a very good question, and no the answer isnt a lucid dream because we an achive these on drugs and still be awake, i myself know this feeling, when i dream i feel as if im awake i always go to "sleep" in my dream and wake up in this reality, so how do i know whats real i feel pain in both realitys, so witch one is real, i play video games in the other reality just like i do in this one so how can i be sure.
question 5)why does neo have to take the pill to jack out when no one else does, (i know in the first matrix they say they all do, but in 2 and 3 no one does why?
question 5)if we create a real matrix would the same rules apply, like hard jacking someone out would they still die like in the movie or would they simply wake up?

The animatrix

question 1)this just happend as i write this i have watched this movie over a thousand times and only twice i have got to watch this one part the ninja one just started playing for no reason is this a addon that happends randomly or a defect on my dvd?
question 2)am i suffering from a deloustion of reality, like not bein able to accept this world, i always think about this series like its my religion, i know this sounds crazy, but some people just cant stop these thoughts, why does the concept of the matrix rack my brain so bad?
question 3)who are you...
am i alone....

you are not alone...

i hear this said in my head so much i dont know why, suck simple questions but such a large responce why?
question 4) when i used to get high i feel free like the runner Dan in "world record" i have seen many thing in my short years but nothing like this i see what these special people see when there about to wake up, i have been in this state so close i see "myself" just fade away and im free even if only a few seconds, in those seconds i truly feel like im the only thing that matters in this universe.
question 5) in the story "world record" after he gets the time 8.92 and falls very badly why do none of the runners stop to help thats just plain selfless they already lost why not help the poor man?
question 6) am i just paying to closely attition to all of this, i feel like this will end up killing me to a point i will go crazy and actually comtimplate sucide to see if my idea's are right, im not sayin im crazy i just think im beginning to belive what these views are saying, when something seem's so possible like these idea's how can one not start to belive when we devot ourselves to something like a christan that loves god and his fellow man so much they give there life to it,or how a mother would die for her child to save the childs life,or how a sucide bomb would die for his belifes suchs as iraq and other places.

ending note i have thousands more questions that i will ask and plan to tonight if i get a reply that dosnt just downgrade me and just say basically im a dum ass, please someone answer and give some addvie to these ideas i have with a dignafing(cant spell good guys lol) responce.

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Re: ONE MAN, MANY IDEAS, A SICKNESS, OR GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY

Hey JD,

I can't speak to animatrix, but for some of your other questions,

Matrix 1) Why would you want to wake up? Each person has to answer this for themselves. I personally say...to live as opposed to exist. Also to seek what can can next, which is better, vs. existing in this present state again and again.
2) That was Cyphers thought in the movie too...he wanted to get jacked back in. This present life may suck, but it sounds like it is about the best place to be birthed into the next growth.
3) I guess that's a way to put it. You need to wake up to escape the matrix, so I guess it is like dying to that former life.
4) A guess, maybe in your dream you have escaped the belief systems, energies and karma's that effect you. So you are lighter and more free...Like I said a guess.
5) The pill is only so they can find your body, in Matrix 2 and 3 they don't show anybody else waking up.
6) I don't follow the question.

I can't speak to much else about the animatrix, sorry and the comments that pertain to it. Tough break on the path life has lead you. Always have a hope you'll get the answers you see, and realize you may need to grow and change and it'll workout in the end. Stay strong.

Peace,
Teddy

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Re: ONE MAN, MANY IDEAS, A SICKNESS, OR GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY

on question 6 i put 5 again but you know what i ment, say we made a real matrix, do you think if we died in the matrix would we die in real life like in the movie, and do think in the matrix like in the real movie, like super jumps ect,i would love to be able to learn something simply by injecting it into my brain then no one could be concidered dumb, if we all knew the things we need to there could be no arguing the facts.

i agre with you i need to break away from these idea's but simple cant the human mind does many thing, but juts simply stop thinking about something for reasons known is a little harder when i stop thinking abut the matrix i only think about these other idea's of self realism,or fear of a post apocalictic war,i may seem like a schzo but i dont think i am, i think im just a normal guy in search of answers knowing i will never get them, if this is the case then why does my mind force me to comtemplate these idea's.

i hate the way my life has turned out and i know what i need to do but its a little hard when you think everyone is in my way, and self dought is a big thing to people, no drug to me fix's this, trust me i been on my own drugs a long time and thats the only way i feel free, i been clean 4 days now and these idea's are gettin worse, i wont go to a doctor again because they tried to lock me up, if i get put there i know what i will do, i'll end it all to escape, but if i dont do somthing i fear i will do it anyway to know the ultimit answer.

i know death better then most and dont want to go back to that hellish darkness but i feel that was a limbo thing because iw as not ment to die, at this rate my life will leed me no where, i restart adult ed mondy hopeing to get my ged, but in the end what will this all achive me, aproval of otherss i dont give a shit about,if this is an unballance then maybe a drug would help, when high i have seen many things if thats why i have these questions then it should ware off but i been like this since i was atleast 13 im almost 20 now so how long must i suffer, i have a girlfriend that does everything i could need her for, basically she takes care of all my needs and i dont do shit for her i wont lie, with all i have i mean even if i never work again, never leave this house i will have more then most people that work 60 hours a week, then why am i still suffering like this, im sure there has to be doctors on this forum, i never finished the 9th grade i basically have no edcutaion but yet i talk like a collage seinor, i cant spell for shit but most cant lol, i have a iq of 148 pretty high, where did i gain all this knollage, when i havent studyed in over 7 years and been on a drug benge for 5, how does the human brain learn from nothing, if i am such an odity then what should i do about this with my life, i have no idea what i wanna do with my life, i should do computers but there no challange to me, i know pretty much anything i need to and a lot of standard and unknown facts like a jeporday buff that would look like a major dum ass, any ideas on this?

4 Reply by T-Ren (edited by T-Ren 2005-03-26 04:42:31)

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Re: ONE MAN, MANY IDEAS, A SICKNESS, OR GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY

Hey JD,

  I am not counsellor or anything.

i agre with you i need to break away from these idea's but simple cant the human mind does many thing, but juts simply stop thinking about something for reasons known is a little harder

That is your choice, simple yes, easy NO, hard as hell absolutely...but it is still a choice.

i hate the way my life has turned out

I am definitely not trying to belittle you or deny s**t you've been through. Each day is new chance to make the life you want and become the person you want. It may take a long time and take all the mental, emotional and physical energy you have, but it ia worth it. It seems when you start to wake up the attacks get more frequent and stronger, the matrix is going to do what it can to keep you in your spot so to speak. Let the warrior within awaken and not give up in the fight to find your life. 

You got a lot of the goods there already it sounds like, be patient and the rest will come.

Just never give up...no matter how far you get, you give up you lose.

Peace,
Teddy

"It means the Matrix can't tell you who you are" - Trinity
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Re: ONE MAN, MANY IDEAS, A SICKNESS, OR GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY

A suggestion....I don't know about anybody else, but for me, I skipped over your posts as soon as I saw that they were just one huge run on sentence with no punctuation.    It makes it damn near impossible to read or take seriously.   Again, can't speak for others, but right now I don't know what to make of you based on that.   It's very possible others are feeling the same.  For that reason, I'm pointing this out.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: ONE MAN, MANY IDEAS, A SICKNESS, OR GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY

JD,

You are not alone. wink

Just some opinions and quick observations:
1. Don't think it is a good idea to be exposed to a TV or computer screen 24/7.  That in itself will mess with your mind. 
2. I think meditation might benefit you.  We've discussed this on this site a couple times and there is a free meditation program at http://www.bwgen.com
3. Sounds like you may need to detoxify your body and you may even be going through withdrawal right now.  If you can't go to a doctor, is there at least a nutritionist or some other holistic praticioner you could consult with?  Drugs, ***if they become an addiction***, are a form of control that can bind you to the "Matrix", although they may feel like an escape.

I don't have all the answers, but I wish you the best of luck.
Kathy

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7 Reply by Vuyiswa (edited by Vuyiswa 2005-03-29 07:08:41)

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Re: ONE MAN, MANY IDEAS, A SICKNESS, OR GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY

Hi JD,

Just a quick note to remind you like others have done, that you are not alone. That was your higher self reminding you of that when you heard those words. All are connected. We are one as unique aspects of the creation of the One who knows no boundaries.

It will take you some time to clear the toxins in your system. For example, once you stop smoking pot, it takes a few months to get your short-term memory back and perhaps up to as much as a year to lose the craving. I don't know much about other drugs, but I think it is safe to assume that a your body needs a lot of time to recover, so think of your body as a temple or  home for your soul and treat it accordingly.

You have many ideas, but I think you know your obsession with the Matrix and animatrix movies is not healthy. There are many clues about the nature of our reality in those movies. It is just information for you to use, but probably due to the unbalancing influence of the drugs, you have put yourself in a circular loop and become somewhat stuck onto the tiny details of the films, rather than living in the real world. This is not healthy for you and your obvious intelligence. Why not expand your thinking to exploring the clues in the real world that are there for your education? Tv is is a very hypnotic medium, so take a break from it and breath some fresh air. Go near to water where you can energise, and try to eat some raw food, and super green nutrients like Spirullina to maximise the nutritional value for your body.

I'd like to welcome you to NR, and to commend you for reaching out as you have done.  This reaching out will be of great assistance and help you break out of the Matrix thought loops that have you spinning around in circles. But  no one can do this work for you. You have to use your considerable intelligence to do the work and express your feelings in your unique way.

There is much written on the net about this topic of the Matrix, not just the particulars of the film versions. There is a thin line between the greater understanding of reality and the sickness you are concerned about. It can only become a sickness if you isolate yourslef. Keep in touch with others who are just exploring as you are. We share clues and understanding here at NR and I feel you have much to contribute. By all means ask questions, but realise that out of respect for your freewill, the Creator has designed this universe so that you are free to explore for yourself, not seek to have others give you answers. No one can possibly do that. The age of gurus is past. Take advantage of your freedom and fear it not. It is your greatest gift. Be careful of falling into negative cynicism.

Here is a link to one who has explored the "Matrix" utilising many tools. You may find this link interesting:
http://ascension2000.com/04.10.03.htm

Good luck on your path, and remember silence and meditation are of great assistance when one feels emotional turmoil. Don't forget to exercise your body and ask your higher self for guidance always. The universe talks to us in more ways than are available in the Matrix movies. Oh, and make friends with a dictionary and a thesaurus. Words are powerful and it is important that you express exactly what you think in a way that others can understand. No offence intended. I understood what you meant in your posts, but you wrote in a rambling manner that made it hard to read.

Just a few thoughts for you discernment.

Good luck and lots of love,

Vuyiswa

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