• Registered: 2004-03-28

Topic: Purging experiences

HOLY SHIT!

Tonight I had a purging experience, and I want to talk about it while it's still fresh on my mind. I don't even know if I can put this into words...

So I was just sitting in my apartment, thinking about my brother, and how distant we are. We hardly even see each other and talk anymore. I was thinking about how sad it is that my own brother and I hardly even talk to each other, because when we were kids, we were best friends. We did everything together. I was thinking of all the times we spent playing as kids, all the fun times we had.  Then suddenly I started having flashbacks of childhood memories that I'd forgotten about. I recalled memories of beating my brother (literally). He was crying and my mother was telling me to stop, but I just kept doing it. These memories replayed in my head, over and over again. Suddenly this rush went through my body and this INTENSE sadness just BURST out. I started crying. A LOT. The feeling was so much that my crying couldn't keep up with it, like I wasn't letting it out fast enough. I felt like I was going to explode. My body felt like a dam holding back these feelings, and that dam had to burst. I cried for my brother for over an hour. I just kept saying to myself "I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, how could I do such a thing to you?" I can't even describe in words the intensity of this outpouring of energy. My ego had disappeared for a while. I realized what an asshole I'd been to him. I wanted to be with him, to apologize and give him a hug and cry on his shoulder. I'm going to do this the next time I see him, because I feel that will "complete" the purge.

This was just one purge. Something in my mind told me that there were more to follow, one for each person I had wronged in some way. I realized that this is what the transition to 4th density is about. It's not about aliens and conspiracies and cataclysms and the government. It's about real people, you and me and everyone, releasing karma and being honest with ourselves. It's about accepting our wrongdoings and forgiving ourselves of them. Now I know what the Cassiopaeans meant when they said people would be purging karma like this. They said some people would do it little by little, and for others it would be like a flood gate opening. Well hell, it sure felt like a flood gate opened for me, and I feel like there's a hundred more waiting to be opened.

There's something else I want to say here, though, that I realized tonight. The ego feeds on some of the topics in this forum. Beware. The ego loves attention and having a purpose. That's why we talk about black helicopters and chemtrails and the New World Order. But these things are ALL distractions. They don't matter. What matters is the connection between you and everyone else, the spiritual rather than the physical.

  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: Purging experiences

seeker wrote:

What matters is the connection between you and everyone else, the spiritual rather than the physical.

Just a few days ago, I wrote a friend of mine an email about loneliness and isolation and how this has been documented in scientific studies to be an underlying cause of heart disease (see Dr. Ornish "Reversing Heart Disease").  The #1 Killer in America.  In certain cultures they do not even have a word for loneliness ...

I am feeling more and more it IS the connection between people that is most meaningful and the surprise to me is often that connection can be made regardless of the person's spiritual beliefs and understanding.  In other words, so they don't have the TALK, within they have the walk.  I wouldn't be surprised if it's more people than I have ever thought of.  It just takes more "under"standing (less ego) to touch that pulse.

Thanks Seeker for your post.

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  • Registered: 2004-03-24

Re: Purging experiences

Seeker wrote:

There's something else I want to say here, though, that I realized tonight. The ego feeds on some of the topics in this forum. Beware. The ego loves attention and having a purpose. That's why we talk about black helicopters and chemtrails and the New World Order. But these things are ALL distractions. They don't matter. What matters is the connection between you and everyone else, the spiritual rather than the physical.

That's a pretty important realization. There are practical ideas, prudent ideas, worthless ideas, entertaining ideas, and truly valuable ideas. As far as transcending 3D goes, the truly valuable ideas are ones that have to do with 'being over' 3D and 'being ready' for 4D...things that you can take with you into the next world, or into the afterworld, and be all the better for it.

Black helicopters and political conspiracies don't matter in the bigger scheme of things...your soul is not enriched by knowing such details. However, often something that isn't of direct spiritual worth can still help in an indirect way. It's like knowing that buckling your seatbelt is a good idea...it doesn't enrich your soul yet it does protect you during a crash so that you have more time in life to learn further spiritual lessons.

Same goes for the topics concerning the modus operandi of the darkside -- these don't show you the light directly, only the shadow, but from the shadow's boundary you can better discern where the light shines. I think as long as study of the darkside remains secondary in priority to seeking the light, as long as this merely an aid to a means to an end, a stepping stone to greater discernment, then all is well.   

So speaking of the darkside, a thought that crossed my mind recently is that there is a spiritual disinformation campaign being waged to turn truthseekers away from what really matters and become  entirely engaged and enraged in the political conspiracies being played out today. The Bush/Iraq fiasco is one example, and I find it curious that several individuals I have encountered who had a dark and disinformative side to them were uncannily clear cut in their overwhelming ignorance or trashing of anything to do with hyperdimensional/spiritual concepts and their fervent obsession and advocacy of ideas dealing with the political conspiracy. Interesting, as the only ones standing to gain from this disinformation ploy would be those who are threatened by our spiritual empowerment, those who run the political puppet show that has so polarized and hypnotized the masses into either absolute support or absolute disgust with the government, meaning those 4D negs.   

I also think many of these alternative news sites that think they are doing the world a favor by exposing the political conspiracy are unwittingly carrying out the agenda of a spiritual conspiracy to distract truthseekers. Not that they should turn a blind eye, rather they should re-examine their priorities and place their observations regarding world affairs in a spiritual context. If and when NR does a news page, I would intend for it to take that pitfall into account and use darkness to sensitize people's eyes to the light rather than make them go blind from lack thereof.

Anyway, thanks for posting your purging experience, it really shows the importance of knowing what is important wink

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4 Reply by seeker (edited by seeker 2005-02-10 21:07:40)

  • Registered: 2004-03-28

Re: Purging experiences

Christine and Tom, thanks for your input. I just want to say one quick thing first, which is that, I hope the tone of my post didn't sound like I have THE answer. I don't have THE answer nor am I trying to force my perspective on anyone. It's just that I posted this in a (natural, but very intense) altered state of mind. It was like all the recent events and feelings in my life culminated that night to make me have this experience. It was like suddenly, for a couple hours, everything made sense and my frustrations with the world around me seemed mundane and unimportant compared to my spiritual connection with humanity and everything else.

Tom, you make a great point about knowing the dark side. Knowing about conspiracy stuff can improve your life, in the way that "knowledge protects." Your seatbelt example was quite good. The problem I see, which you pointed out, is that some people get obsessed over this stuff. Their focus even tends to center only on conspiracies and world drama, and they forget that there's more to the world around them than the world around them. wink I don't generally like "taking shots" at people, but the best example I can think of is the Cass Signs of the Times page. I know their philosophy is "to see" the forces at work behind the news and point out the subtle (and not so subtle) manipulation going on. But when you do this day after day after day, you get caught up in the world drama and it becomes an obsession. This is exactly what the "negative" forces want, for you to be distracted and obsessed with distractions.

By the way I think a news page would be a good idea if you can put the news "stories" into spiritual context. There are so many different aspects to an event that aren't reported in a news story too. Something that stuck with me from Barbara Marciniak's "Bringers of the Dawn" book was that, rarely reported in a news story are the feelings of the people involved. Are these not important? These are just as pertinent to a news report as the "facts" are.

  • Registered: 2004-04-09

Re: Purging experiences

Hello all! Seeker, I agree with your viewpoint on matters of importance or rather focus. I allow the events of the world and the direction it appears to be going to affect me far to emotionally. Certainly I would have more energy to invest in my connection to the whole of humanity and positive direction if I did not allow myeslf to get caught up. I've been an a**hole of definite proportion. Sometimes only because I have lost hope temporarily.  A B.S. justification no doubt. So, thank you for sharing your experience. A little adjustment in perspective!

And yes to a newsletter with fresh perspective and one that relates the feelings of those experience. One can certainly learn from them as well.

Thook

" Then it was, then again it will be. And though the course may change sometimes rivers always reach the sea." Robert Plant

6 Reply by shamballa (edited by shamballa 2005-03-29 06:56:56)

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  • Registered: 2005-03-28

Re: Purging experiences

seeker wrote:

There's something else I want to say here, though, that I realized tonight. The ego feeds on some of the topics in this forum. Beware. The ego loves attention and having a purpose. That's why we talk about black helicopters and chemtrails and the New World Order. But these things are ALL distractions. They don't matter. What matters is the connection between you and everyone else, the spiritual rather than the physical.

Word, that should be put on a sign on ever street corner on the planet. This is what is lost folks.


I've had a similar experience recently as well. I experienced convulsions in my body as a matter of fact for about 5 minutes. I experienced all the pain in my life all at once. I relived every moment of pain. I reexperienced it, in order to purge it. It was intense and I felt a lot better afterwards. Most of my pain comes from leaving my daughters mother 4 years ago. My pain of separation and loss is overwhealming to me. However as I tell my daughter (8, Sabina) that we are always connected, even though not in the physical sense all the time.

Anyhow this was an intense experience to just sort of have a movie run in your head and be paralyzed and have all that pain thrown at you at once. I surrendured to the pain, instead of continue to fight the bad memories that play over and over in my head and rob me of (+) energy. This is a dramatic piece of enlightenment I think that most people fail to realize is cruical to the development of ones higher self.

Kevin

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