76 (edited by bumblebee 2005-01-13 04:56:49)

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**spoiler alert**
Hi ms. lyra, i also found it a nice movie and found myself wondering about one of the last scenes when she escapes and comes across the police officers. There was a  comment that no planes were allowed to fly over the area. This seems to suggest that someone knows about the Village on the outside and wants to keep it secret...  who and why? A little unanswered question to keep the mystery?

A film with a similar atmosphere I find "The Others", liked that one too.

ANYWAY.

came across this little review, funny read. You've got to love and laugh with those Moral people.

the eyes of truth are always watching you

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I've just been reading about the new Keanu Reeves movie "Constantine" which sounds quite intriguing.

Synopsis:

John Constantine has been to hell and back.

Born with a gift he didn't want, the ability to recognize the half-breed angels and demons that walk the earth in human camouflage, Constantine (KEANU REEVES) was driven to take his own life to escape the tormenting clarity of his vision. But he failed. Resuscitated against his will, he found himself cast back into the land of the living. Now, marked as an attempted suicide with a temporary lease on life, he patrols the earthly border between heaven and hell, hoping in vain to earn his way to salvation by waging war on the earthbound minions of evil.

But Constantine is no saint. Increasingly disillusioned by the world around him and at odds with the one beyond, he's a hard-drinking, hard-living bitter hero who scorns the very idea of heroism. Constantine will fight to save your soul but he doesn't want your admiration or your thanks - and certainly not your sympathy.

All he wants is a way out.

When a desperate but skeptical police detective (RACHEL WEISZ as Angela Dodson) enlists his help in solving the mysterious death of her beloved twin sister, their investigation takes them through the world of demons and angels that exists just beneath the landscape of contemporary Los Angeles. Caught in a catastrophic series of otherworldy events, the two become inextricably involved and seek to find their own peace at whatever cost.


View trailer at http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/constantine/

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78 (edited by wandering1 2005-01-25 10:25:36)

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Yes, Constantine does look interesting.

The Forgotten is now out on DVD.  The DVD has alternative version with a different ending (the last 10 minutes or so is different and the rest of the movie is basically the same).

The alternate ending is much darker, and I possibly more realisitic.  Of course, people like happy experiences and I think that the ending may have been changed to the lighter version as a result of test audiences and the studio (just a guess).

As, I've said before, I really liked the movie (with either ending) and even if you've already seen the theater version you might want to check out the verison with the alternate ending.

79 (edited by lyra 2005-01-25 10:41:58)

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Hi wandering1,

We just purchased "The Forgotten" on DVD, and got to see the alternate ending.  I liked the alternate ending better.  The one we saw in the theaters didn't feel right or match up to the rest of the movie...now I know why!   Cause it wasn't the original intended version.  So there you go.  Personally, I came up with my own ending which I would have liked to see because it's more realistic. 

*SPOILERS!*

Since the plane full of kids didn't actually "crash" and instead was taken by the aliens, it would have been more in keeping with that idea to have the ending show that the aliens are here to take people for food, specifically kids, but they're here to take entire groups of people for food or personal use.  This fits more in line with what we hear about in abduction research, where not everybody comes back and thousands of kids go missing a year.  Makes you wonder.  So instead of the entire movie being about some goofy "experiment" to test the bonds between parent and child, it would be about aliens taking people / kids, then, altering the timeline to erase their existances as if they had never been here at all.   But....not everybody completely forgets.  There's always a few that slip through the cracks and become the anomoly in the whole project, there's always the few who remember and thus have those "glitches in the Matrix".   And that anomoly in this case would be Julianne Moore's character who refuses to believe that her son never existed.

See, THAT would have been such a better idea for an ending!  big_smile   I just didn't like the explanation that it was some goofy experiment, it didn't fit or make sense.   Instead, it should be about the aliens covering up the thousands of people who go missing a year, so that they can continue to take them without the general public getting alarmed.    Can't get alarmed if they can't remember, right??    Other than that I loved this movie and highly recommend it.     smile

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80 (edited by Cipher 2005-02-05 19:05:17)

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Did anyone see Soylent Green - a 1973 film starring Charlton Heston?

http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue55/classic.html

In 2022, New York City is populated with 40 million people, half of whom are unemployed. The air is smoggy and sooty, and the sun bakes everything, everyday, at 90 degrees. Overpopulation and the destruction of the environment may have rendered human life cheap, but food--that is, real food--is quite expensive. A jar of real strawberry jam costs $150, if it's available--supermarkets don't exist anymore. The government now dispenses rations of food substances made by the Soylent corporation: Soylent Yellow, Soylent Red, and the newest product, Soylent Green.
Our Pick: B-

But even these Soylent products are in short supply. Riot police are always dispatched when Soylent is distributed, because violence kicks in when the food runs out. Thorn (Heston) is a member of this modern, beleaguered police force, which pilfers every crime scene for the necessities of life. When Thorn is called in to investigate the death of a Soylent Corporation executive, his take is a treasure trove: a towel, a bar of soap, paper, and some real food--celery, a couple of apples, and half a pound of beef.

But what at first seems to Thorn a clumsy robbery soon seems a highly-managed assassination. But ironically, it is the death of Thorn's aging friend, Sol (Robinson), one of the few who still remembered what food was, what plenty meant, that cracks the case and unmasks a conspiracy. It is only through Sol's death that Thorn understands what the world has lost and what it has become...
Dystopia, euthanasia and all the rest...

Soylent Green is a basic, cautionary tale of what could become of humanity physically and spiritually if it doesn't nurture the planet that nurtures it. There is little in this film that has not been seen in its brethren: faceless, oppressive crowds; sheep mentality; the corrosion of the soul, of imagination, of collective memory. Quirkily enough, Soylent Green often succeeds despite its director, whose tendency is to overuse Charlton Heston to illustrate every nuance of this dystopia.

Ironically, the film's most powerful moments do not belong to Heston, who makes a dubious, ambiguous hero. It is Robinson who lays claim to the most moving passages of the film. As Sol he speaks frequently throughout the film of what the planet was like, and he sounds like any old-timer of any generation. But in this bleak future, as one of the few who remembers, he is the film's conscience and soul. When Sol finally succumbs to despair and relinquishes himself to a government euthanasia center, Thorn sees glimpses of the Earth's lost legacy. In his world, the average person only sees blue skies and green forests via canned video during their last 20 minutes of life in a government euthanasia center.

The film definitely has its moments, when its imagery is powerful and haunting. The sight of inexorably rolling front-loaders indiscriminately scooping up masses of squirming humanity from the streets is as powerful as anything else the film has to say. Mostly, though, the profundity of humanity's transformation is dealt with in less than a masterful manner. This theme has been conducted better by others.

I wouldn't put it past the STSs to think up something like this. Using the end products of euthanasia centres to produce dried food for the starving masses.  The way they dealt with Heston at the end of the film was what you'd expect of them too.  But for anyone wanting to see the film, I'm not going to spoil it by letting you know the ending.

Anyone else seen it?

"And your truth will set you free!" Cipher

"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift.  The rational mind is a faithful servant.  We have created a society which honours the servant but has forgotten the gift." Albert Einstein

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Hi Cipher.........I have.   But only recently!   I was wandering aimlessly up and down the aisles of our local Blockbuster about two months ago when I saw that movie....available on DVD....and realized, I haven't seen this and it's a total classic.  And it's out on DVD to boot!!    I'm so there!!!   

It was alright, definitely worth renting if one hasn't seen it yet.   It's "very 70's", and the portrayal of the future which looks AMAZINGLY just like the 70's is funny.  big_smile  Even the "futuristic" technology looks no older than 1980.   big_smile  hehe    But try not to focus on that and instead focus on the message of the movie.

If NOTHING else, what I think most people can get out of this movie is an appreciation for how good our lives are.   When you see the horrible brown barely breathable air that requires air filter masks, and you see that vegetables and meat are a black market item, and you see that the population has been herded and corralled into the urban cities and are NOT ALLOWED to enter the countryside, and go their entire lives without EVER being in nature or the country....then you'll appreciate your life more.   I know that for me, I got about halfway through the movie and had to pause it to make myself a delicious snack meal.  It was so psychological.   big_smile    But you WILL appreciate your life more and realize that the ample delicious and healthy food and bottled spring water down at the grocery store should not be taken for granted, nor should sunny days when you could be out taking a walk in nature or strolling on the beach.   "Soylent Green" is a nightmare vision of a future where all that is an impossibility.   So get out there and appreciate what you have, while you still can.   It may not be around forever.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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lyra wrote:

   But you WILL appreciate your life more and realize that the ample delicious and healthy food and bottled spring water down at the grocery store should not be taken for granted, nor should sunny days when you could be out taking a walk in nature or strolling on the beach.   "Soylent Green" is a nightmare vision of a future where all that is an impossibility.   So get out there and appreciate what you have, while you still can.   It may not be around forever.

You see, they've already got to us ... we have to drink bottled water ... because our heritage water as provided by Mother Nature has been polluted intentionally and / or unintentionally.

Too much legislation is done behind too many closed doors by too few people (and I use 'people' loosely here big_smile ) for my liking. 

But you're right Lyra, it so important to appreciate what we have - and ensure we keep as much of it (freedom / food / air / nature walks etc) clean and fresh and abundant as we can. 

I remember reading on a topic somewhere recently that "energy flows where thought goes" and I reckon that so long as we keep pulling out as many weeds in our garden, but remember to work towards our vision of the garden that we want, rather than get bogged down thinking its all weeds, it should all work out ok.

But I'm digressing!

I also watched The Village recently and was surprised that I could be scared even though I knew the creatures weren't real.  Good movie.

WHAT was that film with Robin Williams, where he dies and his wife commits suicide.  And the movie is set in 'heaven' and everyone sees the reality that they believe in.  And he has to try and 'rescue' his wife from her suicidal world that is crumbling around her.  But he is warned not to stay too long in her 'world' because he'll forget himself and remain lost forever with her?  I thought it was B****y brilliant.  What is the title of that one?  Wouldn't mind renting it out again.

"And your truth will set you free!" Cipher

"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift.  The rational mind is a faithful servant.  We have created a society which honours the servant but has forgotten the gift." Albert Einstein

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Cipher wrote:

WHAT was that film with Robin Williams, where he dies and his wife commits suicide.  And the movie is set in 'heaven' and everyone sees the reality that they believe in.  And he has to try and 'rescue' his wife from her suicidal world that is crumbling around her.  But he is warned not to stay too long in her 'world' because he'll forget himself and remain lost forever with her?  I thought it was B****y brilliant.  What is the title of that one?  Wouldn't mind renting it out again.

"What Dreams May Come."    smile   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120889/

Saw it once, and liked it way more than I thought I would.   It's one of those "lump in your throat" movies.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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lyra wrote:

"What Dreams May Come."    smile   http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120889/

Saw it once, and liked it way more than I thought I would.   It's one of those "lump in your throat" movies.

Oh thanks Lyra.  smile

"And your truth will set you free!" Cipher

"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift.  The rational mind is a faithful servant.  We have created a society which honours the servant but has forgotten the gift." Albert Einstein

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A Scanner Darkly.

Trailer - 1:11
Science Fiction / Drama
Richard Linklater (dir.)
Keanu Reeves
Robert Downey, Jr
Woody Harrelson
Wynona Ryder
MPAA Rating: R
In theaters: Coming soon

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Ayahuasca wrote:

I've just been reading about the new Keanu Reeves movie "Constantine" which sounds quite intriguing.

View trailer at http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/constantine/

I've been to Constantine at last! Great film. Full of symbols. If one is not familiar to some certain subjects (the subjects of our own NR, for example) this film may come as nonsense to him/her. I've been reading some comments on the film and just as I think - they are funny. People really have no idea what this film is talking about and make meaningless comments.

**** may contain spoilers from now on****

First the film opens with an open reference to Nazis. And there are some very interesting symbols/metaphors in the film. Like the demon who helps the Son of Devil is played by the singer of rock group "BUSH"! Whoa! And we see that he's a reptilian under his handsome skin. Icke, anyone?
They use water for going in and out which I see as changing densities. And water is knowledge in esoteric philosophy. After seeing this film, I noticed the use of water symbols in Babylonian and Sumerian art (I visited Paris and Louvre museum this weekend. Wow! This is another story but I couldn't believe Sumerian/Mesopotamian art and statues. Full of symbols regarding alien contact and density shift). Also there is a scene about cats! I wasn't surprised to see Keanu uses cat's eye for a density shift in a scene. We already talked about it here, too.

Hey people, we have to make a movie. No kiddin'...

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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Does anyone know why we use that big fonts in this thread? big_smile

Change we must, to live again
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feritciva wrote:

Does anyone know why we use that big fonts in this thread?

Only in this thread?  what browser are you using?

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Yeah, it's big on my screen too, and only on this thread. The larger font starts following Cipher's 2005-02-05 post. I noticed this right after you made the 2005-03-09 post.

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Thomas - there's a malformed link in this post.  Mind gettin' out the wrench?

Word.  We don't mess around with our forum style.