Who or What are the C's? (Page 1 of 4)

!!!   Holy schmolies.

No, I don't talk to them!  Oh my lord.   I'm at work right now and don't have time to explain who the C's are....but holy cow, I've never claimed to talk to the C's, never, not once.   I've mentioned them like, here and there, sporatically.....but Shawn M, there are FAR more people here at NR who've referenced them.....why pick out me, specifically???    Vuyiswa quotes them quite frequently, so again, why me???    Anyway, once you receive the explanation about who they are, you will understand.  But again, I'm at work, don't have time to explain....

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Now as a fellow Virginia resident, go get ready for that snowstorm which is about to dump 10 inches on our heads.      Sometimes I wonder why I wanted to leave South Florida....................

Should this thread be under conspiracies?

Let me add my two cents on the Cassiopaean material; after reading the transcripts myself, reading more on Laura, Ark etc, and seeing the amount of people who reference these materials dogmatically I can't help but see them as speculation and sensationalism. Laura seems to have a thirst for knowledge, just about every picture I have seen of her (in her home) she is surrounded by books, which leads me to wonder whether she has invented the C's to lend credibility to her own thoughts and theories.
If Laura had just come out with all these ideas as herself, would anyone listen? However, once she starts channelling so called 5th density beings ("us in the future") suddenly there is a surge of interest and popularity with the material.
I know there is a good amount of practical knowledge and insights within the C transcripts, but it is nothing that I haven't seen elsewhere, and the colloquialisms that the C's use in many of the transcripts sound far more like an overenthusiastic new-ager than a higher density guide.

Again, just my two cents. I'm not saying my opinion is set in stone; quite the contrary, if there are points I've missed please tell me, please argue with me.

Well, I personally don't care much for arguing and going rounds, but, I can definitely comment if you'd like....  

Well, as noted in the numerous other threads that have come and gone here at NR, you just have to see it to believe it.   ("it" being the actual C's channeling process.)   I know you haven't seen it for yourself Alushe, so I can understand how you might think this, but I have had the opportunity to sit in on a session, and it was like nothing I've ever took part in.   Before I attended a session I was neutral to the whole thing -  didn't believe it, nor disbelieve it.    After I saw Laura do her thing, there was no doubt in my mind. 

I'm retreading over waaaaay old ground here, I know I've already said this before on other threads, but I'll mention it again here.   But when you see how it's done, you won't have any doubt in your mind that it's being faked.  There is absolutely no WAY it can be faked.   

The way it works is this:   Laura, and whomever else is there helping her, have their hands on the felt padded glass planchette, which is on top of the glass covered custom made ouija board.    Laura sits at the board, and the attendees sit in the room on chair  The session begins, and questions are asked.    The questions are usually stuff that Laura and others were thinking or talking about before sitting down, but once the answers start coming through.....it leads to random, spur of the moment non-scripted questions.  The non-scripted aspect of the whole deal is the clincher.

When the answers come back, they come back one letter at a time, no spaces between words, so it's one huge chain of letters which have to later be spaced.

The session is tape recorded as it goes along.........and there are also transcribers.   Not one, but several, because it's absolutely necessary.  The information comes through so quickly that it's impossible for any one person to keep up on jotting down the letters coming through.     I know, because I took a turn transcribing.     And as quick as I am, even I couldn't keep up.   Montalk couldn't, nobody could.    It's just that quick. 

That's the first sign that it's not faked by Laura just to dissemate her own theories.  If you think someone can rapidly generate answers one letter at a time to non scripted, spur of the moment questions then think again.   I urge you to attempt to duplicate what I and many others have witnessed.  I guarantee you, you won't be able to do it.

The other clincher is to watch as Laura's energy is drained by the end of the session.  She was literally slumped, eyes heavy, speech slower, just wiped out.   True channeling will do that.    For some reason, the process of linking in a conduit to something higher just drains the life force on the person doing it.   The same thing happened in the Ra material, where Carla Ruecker was trance channeling the Ra entity and many sessions were cut short by the Ra entity due to Carla's waining energy. 

That's the gist.   And yes, as Audendove pointed out, it was 6th density, not 5th.   

Ultimately, people need to go where they resonate.   If you don't resonate with it, then you don't resonate with it.  I've encountered channeling that I didn't resonate with, which struck me as being bunk, or hokey, or disinformation.    The C's material resonated with me though.  The people behind it however, did not.     Nor did their groups, schools, or forums.    Like all things, take what works for you and leave the rest behind.

Hi de hi Alushe,

As with all channelled material, if it does not resonate with you, just walk on by. So for those who do resonate with some aspects of it, it is somewhat judgemental to state that they quote the C's dogmatically.

Have you read many of the transcripts, applying your own discernment? The only thing I would add is that all channellings are influenced and peppered with the biases and personality(ies) of the individual(s) doing the channelling. It is a rare thing to find channellings that are not peppered with the projections of the individuals making the contact. The one example I would site as being very balanced and neutral in tone is the Ra Material.

Due to our own biases and linguistic training, which is inherently full of biases, a lot of people find the Ra channellings very hard to understand. There is no warm and fuzzy feeling due to the non-emotional use of language. It is for this reason that I find it the most useful to study, even though i feel like a primary school student trying to understand Phd level thinking. I first came across the material 10 years ago, then put it away. Now that I am revisiting it, i glean much more out of it because I have grown in 10 years. So it is all a process of growth. No dogma, just learning in my opinion.

However a lack of neutral language leads to variability of tone, which in turn is a result of  of judgement/bias on the part of the channellers. So in essence, purity of intent is what is key.  Hence the suggestion to take that which resonates and leave the rest. In the case of the C's, there is little of the warm and fuzzy there too, but  Laura's personality does seem to dominate, even though she was not alone in the process of moving the planchette on the ouija board. To get a better idea of the projections Iam referring to, check out the adventure series, which make lengthy but interesting reading.

If you accept the channellings as "us" in the "future", then it is Laura and the group with her that are talking as part of a social memory complex in 6th density. The people that will be attracted to the material will be of a similar vibration and level of conditioned projection. Of course there is always the very human dynamic of deifying the words of 6th density beings, and the Cs warn against this very human programming. Overall I have found some very interesting information and insights from the channellings, and if you read the transcripts, you will note that Laura's biases are constantly challenged. The fact that the biases are challenged does not necessarily mean that they became balanced.

My major concern regarding where the experiment veered off track is linked to these conditioned biases; her hopes and fears. Too much focus on personal agendas of wishful thinking and wanting to make the world a different place, rather than balancing the external and internal psychological environment by working to accept herself and the individuals who shaped her, for what they are.

Inotherwords, the classic, heroic "I will sort all of this out, and the world will look at me" need for validation. I think, as unique aspects of the Creation, we are all valid and loved regardless of what we think of ourselves, if only we had the eyes to see. Its the ultimate challenge of the human expereince in my opinion. That is where the work on self  has to focus, otherwise all else is "sound and fury".  At the time I left the C experiment, after a 2 year experience of it, there was much sound and fury, and for me, no room to grow.

I know you asked people to argue with you, but that is not my cup of tea. I would rather discuss from the heart centre, not the sometimes highly touchy emotional centre. If you don't  mind this approach to discussing the Cs, I am happy to continue sharing what I think.

In the name of Love,

V

PS: I too question wether this discussion should be under the 'conspiracy' thread. Perhaps Spirtuality and metaphysics?

A very valid thought, as in essence that is what occurs. However there are three densities separating the beings. The higher the degree of 3d speech patterns, the more likely that the bias is likely to be towards the thoughts of the 3d personality. However, it is the content of the channellings ultimately that you must weigh up as useful or otherwise I think.

Another factor to bear in mind is that channelling iof ourselves in other densities is more available to a greater number  due to the increased degree of light being anchored onto the planet by those with open hearts. Thus more merging between densities can occur. Assuming the intention/integrity is of a high STO order, this facilitates more objective information in channellings, and higher self inspirational guidance.

Glad you are not into having arguments

V

No, I don't think there are clear cut delineated points between the densities.  For instance, using my cat as an example.  She's supposed to be "2nd density."   But because she's been around people for so long, and received so much attention, affection, and love, and has people around her always talking to her and playing with her and interacting with her, she's absorbed that human energy.  She's not strictly just 2nd density cat anymore.   She has complex emotions and personality, has to be involved in whatever's going on in the apartment, and verbally "communicates" as well as telephathically communicates.   She is EXTREMEMLY sentient, and has more expression and personality going on in her face and eyes than even many PEOPLE I've met.   !  The lines are blurred with her, as they are with most pets I think.   Any animal that has intense interaction with humans begins to detach from its 2nd density group animal mind and move into an individualized 3rd density state.  Five different sources I can think of offhand say this as well:   The Seth Material, Bringers of the Dawn, Ra, The C's, and Stuart Wilde's writings.

For humans, the same things goes.   There are many of us that are having life experiences which are above and beyond anything that's normal for 3rd.    We're starting to detach and move into 4th is my personal belief, and so our lives reflect this "foot in both doors" occurance.   We're living in the vibrational frequency of physical 3rd density while surrounded by 4th density phenomenon, and learning 4th density level lessons and striving towards that....or higher!       So again, the lines are VERY much blurred, with no clear cut delineation.