Topic: trauma based mind control

Any thoughts or comments regarding trauma based mind control.  Have been researching this area and find it quite increadible.  Have had occasion meeting one who was MPD (or DID) due extreme trauma experienced during early childhood.  Does the government still employ these tactics, or is all this just hype?

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   You're never in a hurry.
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manyeagles!!   Great topic.   I want to post something here, but it'll have to wait til tomorrow.   There's so much going on with this subject, so much ground to cover.  It's fascinating, isn't it?   I'll think of some good links and books and material I can recommend.    I myself have been wondering lately, a lot, what techniques they now use to split their subjects' brains into compartments.   I've read up on all the old, hideous torturous methods, as outlined by Fritz Springmeier, for instance.   But I wonder what sort of technology they're using nowadays.    So what have you seen or learned or experienced in your personal studies on this topic?

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I can't wait for this to get going! Like lyra, I'd like to get up to speed on mind control and this forum is great for seeing what others have discovered.

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what about the possibility of trauma based behavioral modifications on a mass scale.

what about all the children in places like Iraq and Afghanistan who are subjected to horrors of war, and maybe lead to beleive a certain system based on the subsequent spin placed on the events they grow up within and around.

What aboutthe televising of traumatic major disasters and events like 9/11 with the same spin placed on the events.

televising these sorts of things - and subjecting whole populations to severe almost remote attacks, like that in the shock and awe phases of war - desensitize the human from the reality of the world they live in - driving them to be apathetic abouttheir personal involvement and creative ability within reality, causing the oppression of them to be all the more easily entrenched.

"It's hard to advance freedom in a country that has been strangled by tyranny." - G.W. Bush 04/13/2004

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Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler's books the Illuminati Formula Used to Create a Monach Slave and Deeper Insights are essential readiing here. They can be found here:

http://www.whale.to/b/sp/springmeier_h.html

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Thanks for finding this link, Jeff - I've read the Monarch book and know Lyra was also looking for Bloodlines of the Illuminati (glad to see it can be found at this link,http://www.whale.to/b/sp/bloodlines.html)

Phlux wrote:

what about the possibility of trauma based behavioral modifications on a mass scale.

That's a good point. I think we can draw parallels between individual mind control and mass mind control. For example, one effect of trauma is to split the mind into fragments which can then be separately programmed. A shock on the mass scale works to polarize the population, effectively splitting them into parts that can be turned against each other. This seems to work on groups of people of any size. While 9/11 served to unite different groups, it united them on one side or the other of a deepening divide.

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Another good book I came across is Paperclip Dolls. (project paperclip), my sister currently has the book so I am not able to say who author is offhand.  Pretty much dovetails with project monarch materials. 

Makes me shudder to think beings can do such things to children, but guess it happens. 

Just remembered when I went in last to the doctor for yet another sinus problem, and the clown shoved a snakelike thing up there; well I really came unglued and just about hit him.  Cannot stand my head or face being messed with at all!

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

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Came across this interesting article today from Conspiracy Planet regarding the movie Fight Club and how it relates to what's known as Janus End Time programming.  If you've ever read up on the work of Fritz Springmeier, you'll be familiar with that term.  If not, it's explained in this article.   

I found this all particularly interesting because somebody who used to be in my life was a mind controlled agent, most likely a "sleeper", who happened to worship this movie.   He watched it like, every single day.   No lie.    He was so much like the Tyler Durden character it's not even funny.   Won't get into the reasons why, but, just read between the lines on that one.    I never pondered too deeply how the movie was a metaphor for real life split personality, mind controlled sleeper agents, but, after reading this article I was like DUH!   Of course! 

An interesting read.   Enjoy..........

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/review.cfm?rtype=8

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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That's a good link. A month ago I read alot of the Springmeir stuff for the first time.
This is a terrible thing to do to a person, but what it shows too is that our society is riddled with these terrible time-bombs waiting to go off, this awful use and abuse of our precious human life and mind for destruction, war and hell. We see it all around us now more than ever, and until we are able to talk openly about the mind-control that is the true cause, the unseen hand of manipulation is going to continue to destroy us.

This scares me, but they have a plan, a plan that I have seen in "friends" and family, and people I have known briefly. And when you love someone or care about them, and you see that all is not well with their mind, and you see the doctors and other advisors that are supposedly to help,breaking and cracking their minds all the more, you realize that the truly insane are the rulers of this world.

Thank God that we are not minds inside bodies, merely physical, but bodies inside minds. All of this is coming to the surface. We must help in breaking down this tragic, evil and debilitating abuse.

I knew one person who seemed to have more personalities than I could count, and he told me he had no soul. Is he an organic portal? I don't think so. In this case, I think the mind-control set got to him and split him up into pieces and told him he had no soul. This is so evil, I cannot stand to think of someone I cared about being treated this way.
But then again, I, too have been messed with, but only by the straight and narrow, as Montalk put it on the other thread, have I been able to avoid succumbing to their ploys. I excercised my freewill by leaving the presence of anyone whom I suspected had manipulative intent, and this is due to having been taught how to do this from a young age.

But how many others are out there who need to know the truth?

I couldn't hang out with the MPD person anymore, because it scared me alot and because I felt his whole family were fakes, and under some sort of influence. I can't imagine if my family were "in on it" that I'd be any different myself. It's just so unfortunate to see promising souls get messed with like this, and for what? So a few people can have a champagne toast on a world that IS toast?

I'll stick to the old "one mind per person" modus operandi, even if it does slow down my reflexes a bit...A Ph.D, an expert, can be a two or more faced Janus themselves as the Rabbit Hole goes deeper...that is why I do not automatically defer anymore to a more highly educated person in name only. Educated in what? To what ends? Why did they take one route, and not another? All important questions to ask, and which no title or word can expand upon.

All the more reason some of us get cynical...the observed will now observe.....those who did the splitting now splitting apart themselves. Justice is the handmaiden of mercy.

[ All of this is in response to the Fight Club link article Lyra provided]

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Hi all,

I was scanning through old threads and came across this one.  I only just noticed Sedna's post which was the last one done here, (sorry Sedna....) and wanted to resurrect this thread, because it's an important topic.

First off I wanted to commend what Sedna wrote about being someone who's on the lookout for manipulative people and who's willing to walk away from them without thinking twice.   More people would be in a better place in life I think if they could only do the same.   

Secondly, I wanted to add this:  Manyeagles had recommended to us the book "Secret Don't Tell" by Carla Emery, regarding unethical hypnosis and mind control.   Well, we ordered the book and now have it and I have to say, this book is AWESOME.    I really highly recommend it to ANYBODY who's researching this topic.  It's like the missing puzzle piece in the equation.   Combine this book with Fritz Springmeier's book "The Illuminati Formula to Create a Totally Undetectable Mind Control Slave", and that's it, you've pretty much got most of the full picture.   There was SO much stuff in this book that matched up to stuff I've had going on, thoughts / "dreams" / flashes of memories, etc.. etc. and which I did not find explanations for in Fritz's material, so, it's just been sitting on the back burner all this time.   Then I start reading this book and it was like "DING DING DING!   Bingo!"    The missing piece, and explanations to different random stuff.    I about fell out of my chair several times when reading it.   It was just unbelievable to see stuff that matched up.   So, thanks to manyeagles for that recommendation.   smile

Anyway, just wanted to recommend this and acknowledge Sedna's post, as belated as it is.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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ps....one more thing to add.....

Something I came across in this book was one programming technique that the government has apparantly used, which involves taking a female and splittling her personalities into a triad known as fish-child-slut.   The personalities are literally just that --  A fish, a child, and a sexualized slut.   (this isn't something that pertains to me, but I am going somewhere with this, so hang in there! smile  )    The subject is first split into the personality of a 3 year old child.   Then she is split into a fish.   "She was subjected to deliberate disorientation:  "down by the water...playing with the oyster man...." becoming fish, and then child...."  Repeatedly told that they are are a fish, swimming in the water.   

WELL.....when I read this, I perked right up because I was basically reading the lyrics to a a favorite song of mine from the 90's by PJ Harvey called..............Down By the Water.    I LOVE this song musically.........but the lyrics never made ANY sense whatsoever.   I always figured PJ was on drugs when she wrote this.  wink   Now I have a very different perspective on it:


"Down By The Water"

I lost my heart
Under the bridge
To that little girl
So much to me
And now I'm old
And now I holler
She'll never know
Just what I found

That blue eyed girl
(that blue eyed girl)
She said "no more"
(she said "no more")
That blue eyed girl
(that blue eyed girl)
Became blue eyed whore
('came blue eyed whore)
Down by the water
(down by the water)
I took her hand
(I took her hand)
Just like my daughter
(just like my daughter)
Won't see her again
(see her again)

Oh help me jesus
Come through this storm
I had to lose her
To do her harm
I heard her holler
(I heard her holler)
I heard her moan
(I heard her moan)
My lovely daughter
(my lovely daughter)
I took her home
(I took her home)

Little fish. big fish. Swimming in the water.
Come back here, man. gimme my daughter.

Little fish. big fish. Swimming in the water.
Come back here, man. gimme my daughter.
Little fish. big fish. Swimming in the water.
Come back here, man. gimme my daughter ....


Just one of the many random things that I found in "Secret, Don't Tell" which matches up with stuff I've come across or answers questions I've had on the backburner.    Now looking at the lyrics to "Down By the Water" I have a chilling feeling.   It's beyond coincidental that these lyrics match up to the description given in the book regarding how a subject is split into the fish-child-slut triad while down by the water swimming with the fish.   I mean, come on.    PJ's lyrics are verbatim quotes of the government script.   It's extremely creepy.    I mean, just how many songs / movies / etc.  reference mind control and / or contains triggers that most people aren't even aware of??

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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It is creepy. I've noticed so many things like this that I've lost track. Sometimes I wonder if someone is hoping we will do some excellent sleuthing like you did here, Lyra.(People who are getting the message out in subversive ways, through songs, art etc.) There are some newer David Bowie songs that have some very clued-in lyrics as well, that I've been mulling over for over a year. I sense a message such as "We know about this and it's happened to us and/or our friends and loved one's and here's our way of cuing you in as well as venting our rage." But it's a big field of clues.
   I kind of lost touch with this thread, too. I wonder if it's just such a difficult subject that we sort of sabotaged ourselves from pursuing it. I often wonder that about the ebb and flow of some of these conversations. It's slippery and complex, this one.

    That "Don't Tell" book is one I've seen on Icke's site and I figured it would be that good. I'll have to get a hold of it.

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lyra, thanks for the 'review' of Carla's book. It's first on my list of stuff to buy when I have the $.
sedna, that's interesting that we might be shying away from this thread--could this be a programmed reaction we're having to the material? And by the way, I always thought Bowie Was an alien. Or at least a hybrid.

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aaronfirebrand wrote:

lyra, thanks for the 'review' of Carla's book. It's first on my list of stuff to buy when I have the $.
sedna, that's interesting that we might be shying away from this thread--could this be a programmed reaction we're having to the material? And by the way, I always thought Bowie Was an alien. Or at least a hybrid.


In retrospect, I probably should have given a more formal review, but I was just so taken by how this book fills in the blanks that it came across like a hyper kid!  big_smile   

As far as people shying away from this thread.....I think you're right about that.    I've tried to figure out what dictates the ebb and flow of things around here.  I realize many people are busy and don't always have time to post, but it seems that sometimes with what should be a really juicy topic, the ball just gets dropped, the thread peters out and gets neglected.    Then it gets revived but doesn't last.   People drop out of the picture for weeks at a time, only to re-emerge for a day or two, then disappear again.   People start threads then abandon them.   Someone posts their intro. in the Member Introductions thread, sounding promising, never to be heard from again.   Random posters emerge on rare occasions to post one or two cryptic lines, then slip back unde the surface again, so you never get a sense of who they are.   It's so strange.  Other messageboards aren't like that.   On other boards I've been involved in there was a steady flow of posts by a relatively constant group of core posters.    I tend to think that due to the nature of the subject matter being discussed here, and its tendancy to possibly attract those who may be dealing with abductions, that programming may definitely be at work.   I've talked about this actually.    Fights are generated to cleave things apart and drive people off the board.   When that doesn't work then people are programmed to not post.   They may find themselves just having no desire to hit the "Post Reply" button and typing anything.   "You will not post to the forum.....you will have no desire to contribute your ideas........Don't go to the forum anymore.....you will have no desire to visit the forum.....stop going to the forum........!"   

Who knows.

And yes, David Bowie is pretty freaky.   wink    I really don't think anybody else could have played the Goblin King in Labrynth.   That was an Illuminati programming tool through and through, every symbolism, every image, much of the dialogue and the way it was filmed was done so with programming in mind.   Who better to play the Goblin King but the sinister, hybrid looking Bowie with two colored eyes?

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Just got Jim Keith's last book-MASS CONTROL:  Engineering Human Consciousness.  You can skip around the various chapters for sake of gleaning info pertaining to your own particular interests.  Speculation that he was "knocked off".  He isn't the first either. Also a supposed delta progammed male rotting in a jail in NY-unsual circumstances that do not sound too "legal" if you know what I mean.  Please pray for "Andy", maybe it'll help.  Still finding out the particulars, but it seems that some are more heavily used than others.  When the "assets" start to break the programming, all hell breaks loose and mysterious illnesses pop up, unfortunate life circumstances occur, and life becomes a living nightmare for many.  It is not pretty, but knowledge does protect, and I sincerely believe higher positive spiritual intervention can and does take place.

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.