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Okay, here's a theory.

Memory could be stored, through whatever process, but accessible through certain bits of information, such as clicking on a file opens up a document.  When you try to think of a memory, it's accessible through key words or patterns of thought.  As an example of, it is widely thought or known that smell is supposed to have a strong link to memory.

You access certain lines of thinking that open up the file that has been encoded.  It doesn't mean that the file is provided by an intelligent process, only that it has been encoded differently, and is translated upon retrieval, providing us with a format that is readily understood by the conscious mind.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.

32 Reply by Desmundo (edited by Desmundo 2005-01-29 21:49:15)

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I'm trying to sort why we dont have memories of when we were babies. And if as babies, we had memories of the time inside the womb. Could it be that as long as no protocol is established between the mind and the self consciousness, no intelligent identity is achieved? Could this protocol be causality action reaction?
This mind you speak about , I picturise it like a node of some sort, a node that answers our conscious request and sends back the result throught corrected behavior or choice, by memory spills.
What regulates the nodes won't be accessed as long as the right protocol to do so isnt established.
A memory encoded with pain will be accessed more rapidly when the self conscious request it later.

I think the trees and their buds act the same when it come to a branch growing around an obstacle to reach the light.

33 Reply by Haven (edited by Haven 2005-01-30 00:15:03)

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Desmundo wrote:

I'm trying to sort why we dont have memories of when we were babies.

I think that not having anything to compare stimuli to tends to hamper the encoding process. 

Furthermore, our imprints that we receive are through our emotional memories, or neural pathway tendencies, hardwiring us to be a certain way.  (Robert Anton Wilson talks about this in "Prometheus Rising")  We may have vague, fuzzy memories, but our conscious, learned mind has trouble accessing them.  Also, we tend to forget our emotions, and they become forgotten in our material/rationalist world.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.
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http://www.mcs.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/R. … i/fib.html

The Golden String
The golden string is also called the Infinite Fibonacci Word or the Fibonacci Rabbit sequence. There is another way to look at Fibonacci's Rabbits problem that gives an infinitely long sequence of 1s and 0s called the Golden String:-
1 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 ...

This string is a closely related to the golden section and the Fibonacci numbers.

Fibonacci Rabbit Sequence
See show how the golden string arises directly from the Rabbit problem and also is used by computers when they compute the Fibonacci numbers. You can hear the Golden sequence as a sound track too.
The Fibonacci Rabbit sequence is an example of a fractal - a mathematical object that contains the whole of itself within itself infinitely many times over.

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.
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hello everyone interested in this discussion!

i wanted to share a theory of mine, its a vision that i had recently after discussing these things in this thread.

i have sketched a picture of this theory, what it is is a simple drawing that i hope can show a bit of the fractal nature of our existance.

here's the sketch:
http://img53.exs.cx/img53/6091/steps10xu.gif

as the legend says, the steps represent the digital steps and the arrow lines represent analog.

im trying to show the marriage between the two.

try to view this as a 3-dimensional staircase, if you will. the analog lines are stretching outwards (and inwards) infinitely.

let me know what you think. i hope this stirs a few brains....

z

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nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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What I thought, and maybe I'm just being thick, was that the conscious mind is analog.  For some reason, the analog lines reminded me of viewpoints, because digital is stationary, while consciousness is sliding.  Could it be that life/existence is analog while reality is digital?

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.
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Could it be that life/existence is analog while reality is digital?

now thats something that resonates with my line of thinking (no pun intended)

could it be that conscious existance in the higher realms of vibratory frequencies are analog (true) -- and this 3d world that has been manifested in physicality is digital (illusion) ??

i think so.

like, for example digital bytes or bits of digital information on a Disc (even a hard drive) exist in illusory space. Your files and folders on your computer exist in illusory space. the same can be said for our existance here, if one looks deep enough.

i like the idea of the analog lines as being vintage points-- it really fits well with the non-physical consciousness idea of that.

to further my sketch i would draw 2 more digital staircases, one further away and one closer in perspective of a 3d rendering.

digitanalogue!

z

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Okay, here's an idea!  Let's say reality is digital, and consciousness is analog.  Perception is analog, or a decoding of some sorts.  Could it be that the subconscious, or the ideal/spiritual state is also digital, while the conscious mind is analog?  The reason I say this is because the example of the chair.  There is an ideal chair, but all chairs we perceive are from this idea.   Very static, very defined.  That's why you get these people with ideals of what is right and wrong, and they are very stuck on it.  Racists, for example.  Why the difference between a physical and spiritual world?  I could be wrong, but you have to consider just how different the two are.  (I also realize that perhaps our spirit/soul is trapped in this digital existence and that is why we are stuck in that mode of thinking.  Like the Matrix, where they totally believe the illusion.  Perhaps digital reality has hypnotized us in some fashion.  Spiritual could be analog, too.)

Just had another idea.  What if this digital reality is producing analog beings, or spiritual beings?  Perhaps life breaks the bonds of the material world and creates an analog existence, something beyond digital constraints?

* When we start identifying wisdom with our ability to comprehend its form, what wisdom is that?
* Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
* People want platitudes, not progress.
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one analogy that i found regarding life, existance, consciousness and physicaity- is splashing water.

try this next time you are in a pool:

create a huge splash, or have someone cannonball into the pool to make a tall splash;

- if you do not look directly at the splashed water, it is blurry and almost transparent.
BUT
- if you look directly at the water, you will see that it seems to freeze in place when your eyes lock onto a droplet in the air.

its like the droplets are not physical until you look at it.

im sure many here have heard similar theories - like nothing is solid until your eyes perceive it.

what does this mean?
the eyes+brain are ADC (analog to digital converters)

feel free to add your own thoughts or rebuttals on that little analogy/theory.

z

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nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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